RSF to contest election in 6 constituencies

Confirmation that Republican Sinn Féin are to put forward candidates in 6 consituencies in the Assembly election, although the party won’t be named on the ballot paper as it refuses to register in either of the polities on the island. In the broadcast report Ruairí Ó Brádaigh said the decision was taken to leave the party affiliation blank rather than read ‘Independent’. Interestingly it’s fewer candidates than the party had initially indicated, perhaps suggesting either a lack of suitable candidates or a reluctance to stand in some constituencies. Adds seabhac siúlach comments below that it could be due to “some agreement or other between the various anti-Provo republican groups” to maximise their vote.. which seems entirely possible.Update El Matador, also in the comments, provides a list of the candidates and constituencies

The ‘RSF’ candiates are as follows:

Mid-Ulster: Brendan McLaughlin
West Belfast: Geraldine Taylor
Fermanagh/ South Tyrone: Michael McManus
Upper Bann: Barry Toman
East Derry: Michael McGonigle
West Tyrone: Joe O’Neill

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  • seabhac siúlach

    It appears as if former hunger striker Brendan McLaughlin will be one of these candidates:

    http://www.sundaylife.co.uk/news/article2259304.ece

    He will take the place of Paul McGlinchey in Mid-Ulster who will stand in South Antrim. This suggests that the reduced number of Sinn Fein (Republican) candidates is due to some agreement pr other between the various anti-Provo republican groups, e.g., here between the Concerned Republican group and Sinn Fein, so as not to stand two anti-Provo candidates in any one constituency.

  • Pete Baker

    That would make sense.

  • The ‘RSF’ candiates are as follows:

    Mid-Ulster: Brendan McLaughlin
    West Belfast: Geraldine Taylor
    Fermanagh/ South Tyrone: Michael McManus
    Upper Bann: Barry Toman
    East Derry: Michael McGonigle
    West Tyrone: Joe O’Neill

    Interesting that they aren’t running in Newry and Armagh or Foyle, but are in F/ST.

  • harpo

    In the interests of crushing the Provos, can we have a combined list of all true Irish Republican candidates in each constituency?

    Not just these RSF folks, but all the independents too.

  • seabhac siúlach

    “Interesting that they aren’t running in Newry and Armagh or Foyle, but are in F/ST.”

    My understanding is that Fermanagh is something of a stronghold for R. Sinn Fein so it would makes sense to put themselves forward in F/ST. I doubt they are too worried about denying McGeogh votes, when he is willing to take a seat in Stormont, something anathema to RSF…
    As for Foyle, the mother of Patsy O’Hara, Peggy, is to stand, and she has already stated that she will not take her seat. I imagine this is the reason RSF have decided not to stand there. I do not know the situation re Newry & Armagh. It is doubtful whether RSF would be in favour of Davy Hyland, a recent ex-provo who is likely to take his seat…

  • foyle man

    All the best to republican sinn fein in this election, hopeflly the repbulican vote is split. Them standing can only advantage unionists

  • WellBlowMeUp

    foyle man,

    Funny to see a Unionist hoping that a group endorsing armed struggle will do well in elections.

    Every vote for this set of dissidents is seen as a direct approval of shooting and bombing over politics.

  • J Kelly

    I don’t see Sinn Fein having sleepless nights over any of these candidates or any of the independent.

  • gerry

    I wish geralding taylor all the best. A life long and dedicated republican, i sincerely hope she does well. I’ll give her my vote. I’d rather give it to her than to the sellout party.

  • If the story about McGlinchey moving to South Antrim is true, it indicates some degree of co-ordination, albeit imperfect, between the dissident Republican groups. The biggest blank on the list so far seems to be North Belfast. Surely between the IRSP, RSF and 32CSM they can find one right-of-chuckie candidate here?

    Only 90 minutes until nominations close and I must admit… I’m getting rather excited.

    Am trying to do real work frantically so I have time to do the first constituency profile, East Belfast, to go on the blog between 8 and 10 tonight. Assuming the Electoral Office get their nominations up on the website in time.

  • seabhac siúlach

    “I don’t see Sinn Fein having sleepless nights over any of these candidates or any of the independent.”

    In the last Hearts & Minds poll the combined vote for RSF and the 32 county Sovereignty group among nationalists was 7.5%…after the policing decision by the provos it is arguable that this figure is now higher. A conservative figure of, say, approx. 10% of anti-provo voters in any one constituency is something that I imagine would be of some concern to any provo ‘strategist’ especially in the context of proportional representation and the expected tightness of some of the constituencies…
    The anti-provo voter may be more inclined to turn out and vote, moreover, having been angered by the provos u-turn on policing. The provos on the other hand may have a job mobilising their own voters under the vapid slogan of ‘other talk, we deliver’…

  • gerry

    has anyone heard the new sf election advert. a sure turn off for northerners IMO.

  • Terry Doherty

    Gerry, sure you were turned off before you heard the advert, who are you trying to kid?

    As to RSF co-ordinating with non true Republicans in any electoral agreement I would be surprised. They consider the IRSP to be non Republicans, the RIRA/32CSM to be Provo johnny come latelys and the Concerned Republicans to be so johnny come later they’re still provos. And who are we to disagree with the one true government of Ireland?

  • Yokel

    Sammy,

    Do your best in those profiles, I’ll very possibly be taking them into account if I put some money down on some aspects of the election.

    No pressure.

    Seabhac

    Will they be more inclined to turn out? I’d suggest no more than anyone else, though I’m still trying to come to a firm idea of how the rejectionist vote of both ends is going to go.

    If they nailed up 7.5% of the vote that would be very interesting if even half of that voted SF at the last elections but shifted now.

    Gerry

    Taylor will have her work cut out up in WB, or toon town as I call it after its initials. If there is anywhere the full weight of the SF machine will be hammering against the rejectionists its going to be there.

  • I don’t follow this internet thing very closely, but, is there an award yet for, ‘least convincing sock-puppet of the year’ yet? Stalwart ‘Unionist’ poster nos. 4 doesn’t quite hit the mark, now does he chaps? I mean, one can’t really believe that there’s an ‘I love Londonderry’ tatoo involved, can we?

    So with that in mind, and because Monica McWilliams is threatening to stick her thumb up my arse [away & f*ck off subsconscious!], I’m hereby inaugurating entirely non-sectarian and cross-community awards, forever hereafter known as “The Karlers”.

    Nominations can be made throughout the period of the assembly election campaign. “Provette pretending to be a diehard unionist delighted at splittist republicans standing” is one obvious category, “DUPer pretending to be lifelong UUP voter, only now voting Paisley for the first time because he has realised that reg is a tiny little squirt” is another. And there are plenty more besides. There’ll be a “Lifetime (of your PC) Achievement” award, and her off eastenders who’s got the part of the Bionic Wimmin will open the envelopes.

  • For 4 read 6.

  • Do your best in those profiles, I’ll very possibly be taking them into account if I put some money down on some aspects of the election.

    It’s a mug’s game yokel!!! If I was putting money down myself, do you think I’d be putting the profiles on the internet?

    If they nailed up 7.5% of the vote that would be very interesting if even half of that voted SF at the last elections but shifted now.

    I think that was meant to be 7.5% of the nationalist electorate=about 3% total vote, which feels about right to me, in a very unscientific way!!! It will be more than that in the most traditional republican areas though, which makes life interesting. With the exception being West Belfast, as you rightly say…

    If there is anywhere the full weight of the SF machine will be hammering against the rejectionists its going to be there.

    And the Chuckie machine in West Belfast is a bloody impressive one. The question isn’t whether or not Geraldine Taylor can take a seat, but whether or not she can shaft the Shinners in their quest for 5 out of 6.

  • gerry

    Terry have you heard it? Then until you have……

    Yokel yep I agree with you, infact I was beginning to think no one other than sf or the sdlp would stand. Not much choice between those two, so I’m glad geraldine is there for a bit of choice for those of us who oppose what the shinners have done on policing. She could poll strongly enough. She could get a lot of republicans who don’t like what sf did on policing voting for her. Shes a strong candidate, a surprise one, and she’s well enough known- hopefully she’ll do well. She may not have the money the shinners have but then she’s never worked for the brits. good luck to her.

  • The Electoral Office are saying nominations should be on their website at 8 or 9 tonight.

  • J Kelly

    In Derry there has been a very concerted effort by those opposed to Sinn Fein to rally support and build a campaign and to be honest it has run out of steam already. The Irps have stolen their thunder with Peggy OHara which has turned quite a few off. Secondly and most important in terms of elections at least 80% of those attending theSE meetings wouldn’t have voted for Sinn Fein in years. At the local government elections in 2005 Gary Donnelly got just under 500 votes in Cityside a very credible performance but Sinn Fein increased its % share of the vote. Without doubt there is a anti-peace process vote within republicanism but my honest opinion is that many of those who will vote for these candidates would not have voted for Sinn Fein anyway. Furthermore Sinn Fein have another opportunity to take votes off the SDLP which wasn’t there in 2005. My best guess anti-peace process republican votes will not cost any seats and Sinn Fein will get two extra seat in South Antrim and Lagan Valley.

  • gerry

    j kelly, the irish news last week predicted that the sdlp would take foyle, with not much change in the representation in derry. they did say mclaughlin would take a seat, but i think you are way tooo optimistic for sf overall. there will be protest votes, they may not amount to much, those involved know this i am sure, but it will be a drag downwards on sf. for a beginning that is enough. they sold out, they deserve a slap at the polls.

  • harpo

    ‘All the best to republican sinn fein in this election, hopeflly the repbulican vote is split. Them standing can only advantage unionists’

    Foyle Man;

    Hear hear!

  • harpo

    ‘Funny to see a Unionist hoping that a group endorsing armed struggle will do well in elections.’

    WellBlowMeUp:

    They may endorse it, but they don’t have the capability to set a cat’s arse on fire 2 nights in a row.

    We don’t want them to actually win sets. All we want is for these clowns to take votes off the Provos.

    ‘Every vote for this set of dissidents is seen as a direct approval of shooting and bombing over politics.’

    Who sees it that way?

    Let’s face facts – there are always going to be armed struggle supporters out there. All I care about is seeing these clowns take votes off the Provos. Every vote for this set of true Irish Republicans (as opposed to the pretend Provo version) is seen by unionists as a vote that may stop a Provo getting a seat.

    The objective of unionists is to see as few Provos or actual true IRs get seats. That’s why Foyle referred to them splitting the vote. We don’t want to see either set of non-democrats succeed – Provos or anti-Provos.

    It’s all about maximizing the number of democrats elected.

  • harpo

    ‘The provos on the other hand may have a job mobilising their own voters under the vapid slogan of ‘other talk, we deliver’…’

    Seabhac:

    Especially when the end of that slogan is ‘…continued British rule’.

  • Finally, an opportunity to let rip in an election campaign.

    It will be interesting to see what kind of man/woman power these dissidents have behind their canditates.

    Interesting because they are about to be hit with the full force of the Sinn Féin electoral machine.

    These canditates have only one uniting factor, anti-Sinn Féin. The electorate will see beyond this.

    What are their polices? will they take their seats? etc

    Good hunting boys!

  • gerry

    Chris just watched your election programme on bbc. pure crap, its almost as boring as reading the fights and impersonations on your blog and that was boring. a terrible carry on. was that ruane’s voice on the broadcast? catrionia ‘never threw a stone’ ruane.

    the one uniting factor these dissidents have is that they don’t have as much money as sf, who got it off their handlers.

  • Chris just watched your election programme on bbc.

    I don’t have an election programme on BBC

  • Patrique

    Ruairi O’Braidaig was one of the people who admitted in 1969 that the Civil Rights movement had achieved more in six months than “armed struggle” had in 48 years.Yet he is still advocating abstentionism. Has he learnt nothing, or has he always been in denial?

  • Belfastwhite

    I am glad to see that such groups are finally standing candidates. A rise in the numbers of nationalist voters can only be good for nationalism overall.

  • Queens Unionist

    Well firstly might I say, its good to be back.
    IMO slugger only heats up around election time.

    [play the ball – edited moderator]

    With regards to SF/IRA and these other dissidents its hardly unexpected that they have appeared due to the fact SF cannot really call itself Republican any more endorsing the state, teh crown the judicial system the rule of law and order and the like. they are now just slightly more nationalist than the SDLP but stil as utterly undesirable.

  • gerry & the peacemakers

    I can’t wait for the anti-sf candidate to come to my door. I have set aside an hour to listen to his manifesto and he will be doing for the nationalist people in the next ten years. I will be particularly interested if he wants my children to grow up and have the same childhood that I had.

    Coversation will probably be something like: “So you want me to support you to stay out of every position of power in Ireland. Let my elderly neighbours get mugged and raped and not send the criminals to jail. You want me to feel a 2nd class citizen in my own country. You want to send thousands of more good men and women to their deaths.”

    “Oh by the way should I pay my water rates?”

    Get real.

  • gerry

    gerry heres the thing. do you want sf to win because they will lock up people who raped the elderly? If they could do that they’d have been in power long ago. Firstly the people who do that are the police. so far the police since the inception of orde have had the biggest bank heist in UK Europe history go down on his watch. Orde has even betrayed his own wife with another woman and had a love child, crime has not gone down, and all the anti social behaviour etc have run rampant sinece all the supposed changes have come about. for example all orde wants is plenty of money to build his new police academy to train psni candidates 14 percent who will be trained and not even paid a penny in tax to the tax payer never mind being fluent in the lingo. this makes policing more acceptable, or the shinners on the policing boards will guarantee that your child does not have the same child hood you did. NO your child hood may have had the troubles, but did it have rampant drug abuse/elder abuse? Not as much as now. I wonder why that is. how come the peelers have not got on top of it by now, is this because the shinners have not been with them ah but all is about to change now is it? Is it feck. Get a grip man and stop listening to adverts on tv, they are melting your head.

    the shinners want to win because it will be good for them to get power here so that in may they will try to get power in the south. thats the top and bottom of it.

  • harpo

    ‘These canditates have only one uniting factor, anti-Sinn Féin.’

    Chris:

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    ‘The electorate will see beyond this.’

    Nah – the electorate who will vote for them won’t care.

    Like PSF in the old days – you do remember the old days don’t you Chris? – the anti-Provos have a simple objective here. It’s a protest vote with respect to one issue.

    True IRs have always used this as a tactic – think hunger-strikes. Those IR candidates had only one uniting factor – anti-Thatcher – yet the nationalist electorate voted for them didn’t they?

    I don’t recall skinny Bobby Sands having much in the way of long-term policies, but he still got elected on his one issue.

    What were skinny Bobby’s polices? Was it likely that he would get to take his seat.

    In the end none of that normal politics stuff mattered – it was a protest vote, plain and simple.

    So far as I can see, these anti-Provos have no objective other than mess up the Provo vote.

    You sound like a 1980s SDLP person Chris. You’re scared that the protest vote will cut into your territory. That’s why you talk about the electorate seeing beyond the protest vote, people taking seats etc.

    It sounds like 21st century Provo people have forgotten the power of a pissed off people and their ability to register their disgust via a protest vote. It sounds more like you Provos are a reactionary force now.

    It looks like you learned nothing from the efforts of skinny Bobby.

    Welcome to the establishment.

  • harpo

    ‘I don’t have an election programme on BBC’

    Chris:

    So it wasn’t you who just posted:

    ‘Finally, an opportunity to let rip in an election campaign.’?

    What did you mean by letting rip in an election campaign if you weren’t declaring yourself to be part of the Provo ‘Sinn Féin electoral machine’?

    Either you’re part of this or you aren’t Chris.

    Make your mind up luv.

    Or is this the usual tactic of being part of the machine when it suits you, and then not being part of the machine when it suits you?

    If you are part of the machine then people are going to ask you questions about your party. It’s pretty lame to hide behind a ‘that wasn’t my personal broadcast’ answer if you are asked about the party machine that you are claiming to be part of.

    Choose a position and stand behind it man. Are you part of the Provo SF election machine? Or are you just a wannabe at a keyboard, ”letting rip’ for the cause via the internet?

  • harpo

    ‘Coversation will probably be something like: “So you want me to support you to stay out of every position of power in Ireland. Let my elderly neighbours get mugged and raped and not send the criminals to jail. You want me to feel a 2nd class citizen in my own country. You want to send thousands of more good men and women to their deaths.” ‘

    Gerry:

    Now that’s funny. Provo supporters complaining about others doing what they did for decades.

    There really is nothing more hypocritical than a recovered addict.

    Weren’t those the exact things that the SDLP were saying back in the 80s when the Provos first got into elections? The Provo candidate would turn up and spout this sort of nonsense that the RSF guys are still on about, and an SDLP type nationalist could have said those very things. Not that they would actually have done so if they valued their windows.

    This is too funny. The sellout Provos giving SDLP style lectures to those that kept faith with the mindless Irish Republicanism that the Provos perfected in the 70s and 80s.

  • Correction

    RSF are not contesting any seats.

  • gerry & the peacemakers

    OK Gerry – some good points. But crime is on the increase in every country in Europe.

    I agree that the PSNI aren’t exactly making the crime rate plummet but are you honestly telling me if you had information about some crime you would not tell the police? If I am being melted by TV then you are being melted by those around you and whatever you read. You all keep telling me what is wrong with the world but are always a lot slower in giving me solutions or alternatives.

    Drugs are here, in Dublin, London and everywhere else.

    Also I agree that the Shinners want to get in North and south but why is that a bad thing? At least it is a strategy – granted not one you like but it is better than shouting from the sidelines.

  • seabhac siulach

    Regarding my entry at no.1 above, I should have written Paul McGlinchey would be standing in North Antrim not South Antrim…must learn to read…or better still, concentrate…

  • gerry & the peacemakers

    Harpo – you keep looking back and like the rest of the anti-sf people you are great at telling me what is wrong with the world.

    Just what is it you want? Do you want to go back to the old ways of the 70’s and 80’s or are you content on giving me a history lesson of a time I lived through?

    “There really is nothing more hypocritical than a recovered addict” – obviously you are still high on whatever or whoever influences you. Its about time you thought for yourself.

    And just for the record I am not a member of SF.

  • Patrique

    Sinn Fein are now criticised for wanting to get into power. Sometimes I despair. That would be one way to get a united Ireland I suppose. But I forgot, “True” republicans do not want a united Ireland, they want to fight for one, and struggle and be down trodden, basically masochists.

    And I have voted for nearly EVERY party in N.Ireland, except Sinn Fein. Support the non payment of water charges candidates, and stuff the constitutional question.

  • aquifer

    “Ruairi O’Braidaig was one of the people who admitted in 1969 that the Civil Rights movement had achieved more in six months than “armed struggle” had in 48 years.”

    Is doing the same thing over again and hoping for a different result addiction or obsession?

    I can never remember which.

  • jay dee

    I don’t recall skinny Bobby Sands having much in the way of long-term policies, but he still got elected on his one issue.

    What were skinny Bobby’s polices? Was it likely that he would get to take his seat.

    what a way you have with words, A**hole !!

  • Rubicon

    Patrique – you’re quite right. The constitutional position of NI will be determined by referenda. Voting ‘unionist’, or ‘nationalist’ is for the deluded. It gives license to politicians (green and orange) to avoid dealing with the matters that actually affect peoples lives.

    But – there you are – it ain’t going to change soon. NI is filled with people who shoot their feet and then complain about the limp, the wheelchair, the pain, the pain relief. the health service – only to shoot their feet again. At this point the whines move to demands for victim support …

    When have you heard someone say, “I’m voting for *** because I agree with their policy on the environment/health/education/enterprise”? It doesn’t happen (much). Most of this thread has concerned issues that have absolutely nothing to do with the management of public services. A good part of it has concerned doing precisely the opposite.

    On March 7th NI will get the politicians it deserves. The whining will soon follow. This doesn’t just happen because of those who choose to vote but has a lot to do with those who choose not to. It’s the latter that seem to squeal loudest. Not voting IS a vote – a vote for others to choose. It gives no right to whinge.

    But – in NI – you don’t need a reason to whinge. It’s a part of its cultural heritage that nationalists and unionists are very concerned with preserving.

  • Crataegus

    Patrique & Rubicon

    I think the pair of you have it about right.

    I was looking down the list of candidates and when you omit the sectarian candidates it is despairing to note just how little one knows about the ones that are left. It is a clear indication of how difficult it must be to establish a public profile if you are neither already elected; belong to the main parties or have interests in economics and clean water rather than hair splitting negotiations over constitutional issues.

    One candidate that I did notice is Raymond McCord. If there was any decency in North Belfast he would get a good vote but I doubt if that will happen.

  • headmelter

    harpo you really should go and get some professional advice posting three times without a response amounts to talking to yourself and talking sh1te at that.
    Now back under your bridge.

  • harpo

    ‘harpo you really should go and get some professional advice posting three times without a response amounts to talking to yourself and talking sh1te at that.’
    Headmelter:

    I was replying in each case to a specific point that had been made earlier. 3 different points.

    I’m not conversing with myself if that’s what you are infering.

    Are you Dec?

    What’s this obsession with bridges that you and Dec share?

    If you are Dec why not just post under Dec instead of inventing a new name?

    Maybe it’s you that needs professional advice.

  • DMCM

    Maybe, Mr Gaskin you are a little too young too have borne the havok that occurred during the troubles but many of the republican sinn fein candidates deserve respect.
    I think it is a good sign that they have put their names forward.Many of them have lost family members at the hands of the british and will never ever forgive them. I dont know if you have any family but imagine for a second losing someone close to you.
    It is not about policies or seats for these people. It is about remembering the suffering that the british imposed on our people here.
    If you were a true republican you would not be giving these people a hard time.
    I acknowledge their suffering and hard times. I respect their wishes for a united ireland. I also respect their view that the main nationalist parties no longer represent them.
    Please bear in mind that although you are a Sinn Fein supporter that these people have principals that they will continue to stick to and for that they deserve respect.

  • Patrique

    Like remember 1690? Policies like that will get us a long way, I have no doubt.