Mending Wall

It is, of course, entirely coincidental after the recent local disagreement between Churches and State that Gordon Brown is to be received at the court of the Emperor Constantine have an audience with Pope Benedict XVI.. entirely coincidental, surely.. ANYhoo.. what’s not coincidental is the point made in the BBC report

Mr Brown will also hold talks with Italian prime minister Romano Prodi, in a further indication of his status as prime minister in waiting.

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  • SuperSoupy

    Pete,

    I’m sure audiences with the Pope are not short notice affairs and your ‘nudge-nudge’ inference that this may be a reaction to recent debates on Church and State are probably well wide of the mark.

    It does seem to be a further step from him adopting the role of PM in waiting.

  • Pete Baker

    Soupy, clearly the meeting itself is not a reaction to that recent disagreement.. I’m just suggesting that the issue may be raised.

    That doesn’t however take into acccount the wider issue in play.. of the court of the Emperor Constantine.

  • lib2016

    Simple enough surely – there are lots of reasons why Brown wants to be seen as prepared to deal with the Pope. Scottish politics have a great deal of sectarianism still and the Labour Party still attracts some Catholic support which might otherwise go to the SNP who are seen as being the party of the kirk.

    He’s just reassuring all the bases before an election. However it’s an interesting indication of how far unionists would have had to move if they had been serious about building an inclusive NI identity if one is to go by the above comments.

    BTW Didn’t Trimble meet the Pope at one stage? Have we gone backwards since then?

  • Pete Baker

    lib

    “However it’s an interesting indication of how far unionists would have had to move if they had been serious about building an inclusive NI identity if one is to go by the above comments.”

    What on Earth are you on about?

    Try to read the post and comments in the context of the previous posts linked in the original rather than in the much narrower ‘themmuns and ussuns’ view that we, unfortunately, see far too much of on slugger.

  • Overhere

    Hardly news worthy Pete.

  • Pete Baker

    You might not think so, OH.. but then that’s partly why I dropped the seemingly simple news story into a bigger pool.. follow the ripples.

  • Overhere

    Perhaps will check the number of entries in the morning

    Have a good weekend
    Sean

  • Teach

    Scottish politics have a great deal of sectarianism still and the Labour Party still attracts some Catholic support which might otherwise go to the SNP who are seen as being the party of the kirk.

    Posted by lib2016

    No doubt we have a lot of sectarianism over here (sectarian attacks increased by 51% last year)but our politics is virtually free from this,all the parties get a large cross-section of voters from the Scottish population.We do not split into sectarian divides when it comes to voting for political parties.

  • lib2016

    Sorry Teach,

    I didn’t mean to attack Scottish politics or politicans and freely admit that you are far ahead of us in getting rid of sectarianism.

    However various posters on this board have already pointed out that Brown is a ‘son of the manse’ and have made claims that the DUP has already been in touch with him.

    Maybe the fact that this sort of thread is now on a ‘wink-wink, nudge-nudge’ basis is a move forward when taken in context?

    Pete,

    Who? Me, guv? – Sorry but I don’t buy it.

    You knew all the implications when you started this thread. For shame!

  • Pete Baker

    “You knew all the implications when you started this thread. For shame!”

    Lib

    I am not responsible for your narrow interpretation of the post.. nor for your apparent inability to lift your gaze to the wider picture – the context provided by the previous posts linked in the original.

    btw, have you read much of Robert Frost’s work?

  • lib2016

    I haven’t read Robert Frost but a quick look at Google told me that ‘he enjoys wordplay and games for their own sake’.

    Is this an acknowledgement that you preferred ‘wink,wink and nudge,nudge’ to open sectarianism?

  • Pete Baker

    lib

    “Is this an acknowledgement that you preferred ‘wink,wink and nudge,nudge’ to open sectarianism?”

    I realise I’m just repeating myself here.. but.. one more time..

    If you’re seeing sectarianism whenever any particular religion is mentioned – regardless of what the actual text says – then it’s time to consider whether the problem is with your own eye-sight.

    As for the Robert Frost reference, while this is probably a forlorn hope at an attempt to bring a little perspective, it’s a nod towards the poem whose title I appropriated for this post.