ID card scheme runs into more trouble

The Conservatives have finally come out against the ID card scheme. With poll analysis predicting a hung parliament David Davis’s targeting of potential contractors may make them think twice and add to the government’s difficulties in implementing the scheme.Just as I was about to order 10,000 “You can have my iris scan from my cold dead body” bumper stickers. ;-).

  • bpower

    Fair play to the Tories. Without advocating things like personal liberty and responsibility, a meritocratic society and small government, what else is there for them? Wishin it was the 50s and hatin brown people?

  • Julian Robertson


    Not “finally”. The Party has always opposed the scheme – this is taking it a step further and confirming it will be scrapped if started.


    Julian Robertson

  • bpower

    That’s not true,is it Julian?

    From ’05

    computerworld (of all places)
    “Labor’s manifesto will confirm that the reintroduction of identity cards legislation will be an early priority after the election,” Clarke said. Current polls have the Labor Party in the lead for winning the election.
    A spokesman for the Conservative Party said that the party isn’t against the bill in principle but has had serious concerns with the legislation in its current form. ”…..
    “”Only last week, the Conservatives blocked ID cards from becoming law, after nearly three years of discussion in parliament,” claimed Milburn.

    “I now challenge Michael Howard to say whether the Conservatives will support or oppose the ID Cards Bill when it is reintroduced in parliament,” he added.

    A Conservative Party spokesman said the party was in favour of ID cards in principle, but if elected would hold a review of the project before going ahead.”…

    “The Tory leader [Howard]is thought to be in favour of the cards while prominent members of his shadow cabinet are not, including Shadow Home Secretary David Davis, who found himself supporting the measure on behalf of his party, while urging that the Bill be properly scrutinised by a joint committee of both Houses.

    “I would not have countenanced ID cards before 9/11 but after 9/11, I accept we have to consider them because it is incumbent on all of us to examine carefully any measures which might enhance the nation’s security,” he said. “Identity cards introduced properly and effectively may indeed help to do that.””

    So, no ye weren’t always against it, were ye? So on behalf of the google using community, I declare bullshit on you good sir.

    Try the google, its on the internets…

  • Julian Robertson

    That’s Michael Howard which is getting near to ancient history.

    As the plans began to take shape Davis has argued against it, the grounds for opposing being not actually achieving anything for an awful lot of money – as you yourself helpfully point out.

    What’s your take on this, oppose the card but can’t stomach the Tories opposing it?

  • bpower

    Ok, I admit it, I have a love\hate relationship with the Tories. I love the liberal wing of your party, they’re a closer match to my natural leanings than any group of politicians on either island. But fuch me, do I hate the social conservative/ race baiting/ scaremongering/ single mother demonising bunch of sh1ts that make up the rest of it.

    I look forward to the day when the liberal take over is complete and the aforementioned scum slither off to the UKIP (or worse), when that process is finished then you can say…”That’s Michael Howard which is getting near to ancient history”.

    “oppose the card ” Yep.
    “can’t stomach the Tories opposing it?” Nope, Im delighted you’re finally leaving the dark-side 🙂

  • The Clockwoman

    bpower i totally agree with you. I have the same love/hate relationship with it. Miles ahead of the DUP/UUP ideots we have here.
    Maybe its about time we have a codified constitution to stop waste of money on knee jerk policy ideas.

    The Lord Chancellor juxtapositional position of being head of the judiciary, and a member of the legislature and executive ended a few years ago but I still have a big problem with the Cabinet being members of the Executive and Legislature. For example: not only is Peter Hain the MP for Neath but he is also Secretary of State for the country that this constituency is in and of Northern Ireland. One could argue that there is a conflict of interest here at so many levels, its unreal.

    As for the reform of the House of Lords, if it is to become fully elected the upper chamber will demand equal billing to the lower chamber. Future conflicts await here!

  • Gum

    I am not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination but I feel I would have seriously consider voting for them if Labour continue their attack on civil liberties.