Mainstream republicans, under threat or issuing them?

Anthony McIntyre questions the notion that dissidents are threatening the Sinn Fein leadership but he also claims:

“In fact the only person visited by the PSNI in the past week, seemingly, was a relative of the McCartney family. He was told by the police he was under threat from the Provisional IRA.”

  • Yokel

    Adams meeting with Orde ould be seen as collusion..

    Tell us something new Anthony. I’m genuinely beginning to wonder the British Government really does have a number of senior Sinn Fein members in its pocket. I’m not saying they are informers in the traditonal sense of the word or anything like that but I’m wondering if the conspiracy theorists might be on to something, even if only partially true.

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Like the INLA’s Willie Gallagher before him, I am surprised to say I agree with a scumbag! However, McIntyre has this romantic notion in his twisted head that he and others who believe in his “traditional” republican “values” (I hope no-one’s eating at this juncture or they could well choke on their food) are flying the torch for disaffected republicanism and that Provie SF/IRA are “traitors” – our equivalent of a “Lundy”: for example Billy Leonard, a hate figure for most Protestants, let alone Loyalists.

    If I was a republican I believe I’d feel the same way as McIntyre, as the IRA’s “raison d’etre” was to “unite” Ireland by removing the British presence from Ulster by physical force…or so the rhetoric goes.
    I am not a republican however, I am loyalist and a Loyalist. I agree with what McIntyre is saying in regards to the Provies exaggerating or even inventing these dissident threats for political expediency, but I also want to put something to him – the Provos may be “selling out” on your vision of a Marxist 32-county sovereign Ireland run by republicans, but when will you hold your hands up and say that the time is right to stop coercing the 1 million Protestants of our land into accepting a “united” Ireland which is completely anathema to them? We will stand united against your paint/petrol/pipe/fire bombs, beatings, shootings and any “spectaculars” your “traditional” republican friends throw at us, for our forefathers were; the founding fathers of the United States of America; the thirteen young Protestants who defied James II’s huge army on 7th December 1688 by closing the gates of the city of Londonderry; the men and women who fought and died in two World Wars to keep the world free from fascism; the people who did not bow down to the Provos and the INLA during 30 years of conflict..so why would a CIRA/RIRA armed campaign achieve a different result other than defeat for the sectarian bigots who prosecute their war of hate?
    Take a good hard look at yourself McIntyre…

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Should read sectarian b1gots, rather than sectarian unpleasant – obviously this word must have been set to replace b1got! Can anyone fill me in as to why the word b1got has become anathema to Sluggers moderators?

  • Henry94

    CL

    I guess they think we should be able to make our points without it. Or they might hold with Frued that all accusations are a form of confession and they don’t want us embarrassing ourselves.

  • grassy_noelene

    McIntyre is right – the only people at risk from dissidents, going on previous form – are Irish, english and spanish civilians shopping in market towns on Saturday afternoon.

    Oh, and the livelihood and jobs of ordinary punters in the run-up to Xmas.

  • Bog warrior

    CL

    “I am loyalist and a Loyalist”

    What’s the difference between a loyalist and a Loyalist?
    Just for future reference.

  • Irish in America

    CL:

    Your ancestors were also planted in Catholic lands by an occupier. In any United Ireland you would have the rights that the Catholics in Ulster who were forced elsewhere/killed, didn’t. Your high horse

    In a related topic: After reading the McIntyre piece, I couldn’t tell what the dissident groups wanted to do to further their “goals”. I believe there was a quote about NOT using military means.

  • ingram

    Yokel,

    The penny is dropping Eh. LOL

  • Concerned Loyalist

    “I am loyalist” is an adjective to describe my political ideology and “I am A Loyalist” with a big L is a noun to describe me as a person…do you understand what I’m saying?
    A unionist with a small u describes someone who would vote for a unionist political party, but a Unionist with a capital U describes someone who is a member of a unionist party.
    All clear?

  • overhere

    what does “seemingly” mean, you know was it dark and it could maybe have been someone else, like the tooth fairy or the Bogie man

  • Concerned Loyalist

    CL:

    Your ancestors were also planted in Catholic lands by an occupier.

    Base republican revisionist bullshit mate…

  • seabhac siúlach

    “What’s the difference between a loyalist and a Loyalist?
    Just for future reference.”

    Doesn’t Loyalist meant body building, colourful tattoes with cheesy ‘quis separabit’, etc. latin slogans (for a touch of, eh, class), bonfires in which tricolours with murdered childrens names on them are burnt, racist skinheads linked to Nazi Combat 18 and dodgy low-level drug dealing…

    A loyalist (small ‘l’) would be all of the above, minus the body building obviously…

    “loyalist” is an adjective to describe my political ideology”

    Just what is this ideology (kill all taigs? ATAT?) and how is it so very different to Unionism? Exactly…

  • Dec

    “I am loyalist” is an adjective to describe my political ideology and “I am A Loyalist” with a big L is a noun to describe me as a person…do you understand what I’m saying

    Not quite. Perhaps you could explain how capitalising a word (or ‘Big L’ as you aptly put it) changes a word from a adjective to a noun.

    Ps Loyalist/loyalist is a noun. Stupid as in ‘stupid loyalist’ is an adjective

  • Bog warrior

    CL

    Crystal!

  • Cormac

    “Base republican revisionist bullshit mate… ”

    Jaysus, you’re not one of these ‘lost tribe of Israel’ nutters are you?

    “Your ancestors were also planted in Catholic lands by an occupier.”

    Forgive my ignorance, but what is revisionist about that? Are you from native Irish stock, and converted to loyalism/Loyalism?

    Seriously, I’m not being rude. I’m just curious.

  • cladycowboy

    Loyalist

    ‘(I hope no-one’s eating at this juncture or they could well choke on their food)’

    Despite the very considerate warning at the start of your post, I choosing to ignore it, almost did so at my peril as the rest of your post had me in stitches.

    I write it out in a verse…Shoukri and Adair and Woodrow Wilson, now and forever where redstones are painted in a Parisian hue…

  • Irish in America

    Cormac,

    Seems like anything historical that is against what CL believes, it’s “revisionist”. I like how he’s claiming the US founding fathers as his own. As they didn’t like the British King subjecting them to his whims, I don’t think they would have supported the pogroms that occured in the North of Ireland as well.

  • againstthehead

    irish in america
    could you please return america to the indians please
    many thanks
    tonto