And the leader was….who???

Limerick Fianna Fail TD and Minister of Defence, Willie O’Dea, has caused a bit of a stink in Limerick after pulling out of a book launch for a biography about the renowned Limerick republican, Sean South from Garryowen.

Mr. O’Dea, from the self-proclaimed ‘Republican Party’ (copyright restricted to the 26 counties), claimed he had initially agreed to attend the launch but pulled out at a late stage when he ‘discovered’ who the book was about. The book is entitled ‘Sean South from Garryowen….’

  • As Conor Murphy said on Q&A, they may be Republican but it stops at the border.

  • moyle rover

    Mr O Dea seems like a bit of a tit

  • Cahal

    A partitionist republican! Well he’s in the right party then.

  • ciaran damery

    When asked about one of Willie O’Dea’s typical pro-partitionist utterings, Gerry Adams replied, “Willie O’Who?” That about sums up O’Dea’s role in national politics.

    His claim to fame is that he pens a column in the Sunday Independent or at least used to.

    O’Dea’s presence at a Comemoration for one of Ireland’s most famous and courageous IRA Volunteers, Sean South’s honour, would be an insult.

  • Jim Kemmy

    Sean South was a friend and comrade of Sean Garland, the reputed boss of bosses of the Official wing of the IRA who is dodging extradition to the USA on charges of laundeing money for the rogue nation of North Korea, where Prinsias de Rossa admitted to being a frequent visitor.

    Sean South was a very conservative Catholic and Irish language enthusiast. He used to go around Limerick (pre stab city) stopping (straight) couples “courting” in the cinemas.
    He died in a gun battle led by Sean Garland on New Year’s day almost 50 years ago.

    The Fianna Fail government interned the people who were supplying gunmen like Garland and South. Some, like Ruairi O’Bradaigh, later fell foul of Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams.
    Why should a Fianna Fail minister support a right wing death squad leader who sits so firmly into the irredentist politics of Republican Sinn Fein?

    Posters here who support the partitionist Sinn Fein party (PSNI etc) should not expect Fianna Fail or any other respectable party to lend credibility to the sectarian war they fought for 30 odd years and which Sean South and the “Operation Harvest” school fought before them.

  • Henry94

    Jim

    Why should a Fianna Fail minister support a right wing death squad leader who sits so firmly into the irredentist politics of Republican Sinn Fein?

    The question is why he agreed to do it and then pulled out. It is the John Kerry style flip-flop that makes him look foolish.

    But he has form of course. O’Dea as a Minister Mr O’Dea encouraged furious taxi drivers to “keep the pressure” on his own Government over deregulation, and resorted to a bitter swipe at his coalition colleague Bobby Molloy. Mr O’Dea referred to Mr Molloy as “very impertinent” and accused the PDs of dogmatism.

    Later he apologised offering the excuse that he didn’t know his views were being recorded.

  • Why did the author find it acceptable that a representative of any Leinster House political party would be suitable to ‘officiate’ at the launch of said book ?

    Sharon .

  • eranu

    seems obvious that he pulled out because he didnt want to be associated with terrorists. not much more to it than that id say.
    i love seeing pictures of him because he reminds me of watching The Professionals when i was a kid. the one of him with a gun was the best !

  • CS Parnell

    Jim,

    You know as well as I do why he agreed to this and then why he pulled out!

    The call from the grave has always been a powerful force in the politics of Ireland and the FFers love to play the patriot game more than anyone.

    All of Ireland is finding it difficult to come to terms with the era of post-Nationalism and the clienteslist nature of Irish politics doesn’t help – being “a good old bhoy” is a good way to get those 1st preferences

  • Mike

    “one of Ireland’s most famous and courageous IRA Volunteers, Sean South’s honour”

    Just shows what sort of ‘heroes’ repubicans of the Provo and dissident varieties cling to.

    A terrorist thug who came to Northern Ireland from Limerick as part of a murder gang intent on committing mass murder of Northern Irish police officers at an isolated rural police barracks. A murder mission which thankfully South and the rest of the IRA death squad made a complete balls of.

  • andy

    Jim
    So is attacking a rural police station in 1921 less sectarian than attacking one in 1957?
    I’m presuming FF support the former.

    You are right about Garland of course but I would doubt he was an unreconstructed Stalinist at the time of the Border campaign.

    You are also right that South had some distasteful (to me) conservative beliefs. I doubt that featured too much in O’Dea’s thinking though.

  • fair dinkum

    O’Dea was probably conned into doing it, thinking it was a harmless local study thing and not a provo-ganda move; we all know how devious and dishonest the Provos are. Fianna Fail interned yobos like South in the 1950s. They should have done the same on 9 August 1971 and speared Europe the carnage of those who now praise South, Sean Russell and the cowards who gunned down Irish policemen in the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. The fact that these serial killers have switched tactics does not lessen their crimes.

  • Rory

    In the past I have confused this fellow with Dennis O’Dea, the Irish-American comedian, who was a mainstay of Radio Luxembourg in the fifties. Now I see why.

  • fer fecks sake

    Andy:

    “So is attacking a rural police station in 1921 less sectarian than attacking one in 1957?”

    Whatever you want to call it I would hardly have called it “sectarian”.

  • ciaran damery

    So Sean Garland is a friend of North Korea and De Rossa. Garland is also an alleged money launderer, perhaps in the same league as several former FF money launderers. Ergo, according to Kemmy, Sean South’s noble struggle was subsequently demeaned because of the antics of Stickies and Democratic Left.

    Meanwhile if the comemoration was about Garland, then O’Dea certainly would not be out of place,
    given the money laundering skills of former FF
    TDs, ministers and even a leader of the party.
    But it’s not.

    So Jim Kemmy is talking thru’ his bowler hat. It is about a man who left Garryowen and fought with principled fellow volunteers like Ruari O’Bradaigh and the late Dathai O’Conaill. Meanwhile southern governments had long forgotten about occupied Ireland. Like the British colonizer, the southern government ignored (or worse still, accepted) the Stalinist statelet and brutal subjugation of the Irish people in occupied Ireland.

  • andy

    FFS
    That was my point (obviously badly made!). The first one would not be deemed sectarian by FF, or presumably anyone else in mainstream Southern Irish politics, so neither should the second one.

  • Keith Mills

    It would be an appalling idea for the minister responsible for the armed forces of this country to be seen supporting terorism in any way, especially since “republicans” have killed more members of this country’s defence forces than anyone else. Ministewr of Defence need to have clean hands and that’s why McDaid was never allowed become Defence minister.

    O’Dea has his finger on the pulse of the population of Limerick, and given that this week also sees the launch of a book by the widow of Gerry McCabe, this is a perfectly proper thing to do.

  • ciaran damery

    Interestingly ridiculous perepective by K. Mills. His view that, “republicans” have killed more members of this country’s defence forces than anyone else. Ministewr of Defence need to have clean hands and that’s why McDaid was never allowed become Defence minister”. Just a couple of comments – more members of the southern army were killed in the Lebanon (about 6) than were killed by Oglaigh na hEireann. In fact I can only recall one incident when it is alleged that Volunteers shot a Free State soldier and that was when a few IRA volunteers were hopelessly outgunned and surrounded by Guards and Free State soldiers and they used fire power to get thru’ the dragnet.

    The only other option was to face a non-jury court, where justice was frequently based on the word of a guard. Screw that, man!

    Speaking of justice and the judicial system of those years brings me to my second comment. Pills implies that McDaid’s appointment as Minister for Justice did not happen, cuz McDaid was at a function where an Oglach (wanted by the Brits) was also present, when an attack on the British enemy was undertaken. and the Republican Volunteer was due to be extradited to face the charge.

    Rather than turn a blind eye to the situation, McDaid did what any prospective MOJ should do, he presented himself as a witness on behalf of the wanted man, knowing that he could not be in two places at the same time.

    Obviously Mills would have preferred that McDaid lie. In other words he would have preferred that the future MOJ lie rather than stand up for truth and justice. Mills my man, you got some screwed up concept of “justice”.

  • Smithsonian

    Mills my man, you got some screwed up concept of “justice”.
    So ciaran do you. Anybody who thinks that shooting your way through a dragnet is ok because you fear they will not get justice lacks a little something in the critical thinking area.

  • ciiaran damery

    To Smithsonian – They did not ‘fear’ being denied justice, the men KNEW that they would be denied justice. Besides, this was during a war and it was morally incumbent on the men to return to base and resume operations against the enemy. This was something they devoted their lives to.

    BTW I not that you make no reference to the sordid McDaid affair, where the man was denied the opportunity to serve as MOJ because he wished to see justice served, by simply saying that in his opinion a man can’t be in two places at the same time.

    But at the end of the day, it boils down to the armed struggle and one’s opinion of Irish republicanism and partition. Cuz if people opt not to see the blatant injustice of the McDaid affair, they will never agree that 4 (albeit much more battle hardened and efficient IRA soldiers) men choose the lesser of two evils by using their military prowess to crash through the encircling, masses of armed Free state forces, as anything other than terrorism.

    I can live with that!

    PS Ever been to any of the Smithsonian museums in Washing DC? If not, I suggest ya visit the Holocaust museum.

  • Brendan

    Fianna Fail – the 26 County Republican Party.
    These current shower are the worst partitionists since John Bruton. The public perception will hurt them in next year’s election as the National question is still a major decider when voting. Fianna Fail have badly mis-judged the voting public on this one – or maybe they are just realising it and their FF 1916 parade was hastily organised to wrap the green flag around them.
    DeValera would not be impressed.

  • andy

    Keith
    I can fully understand him not wanting to go to the book launch. Why a minister should go to any such event would be beyond me.
    However surely the issue of his competence arises as he had first accepted and then declined. Given the titlte he presumably could not have been unaware of its topic.
    I mean, I know there is a Sean South who is a professional wrestler, but he is from Dublin not Garryowen…..

  • mandy rice davis

    “Just a couple of comments – more members of the southern army were killed in the Lebanon (about 6) than were killed by Oglaigh na hEireann. In fact I can only recall one incident when it is alleged that Volunteers shot a Free State soldier and that was when a few IRA volunteers were hopelessly outgunned and surrounded by Guards and Free State soldiers and they used fire power to get thru’ the dragnet.”

    Oglaigh na hEireann are rhe official army of the Republic of Ireland. Being a member of a rival illegal organisation styling itself Oglaigh na hEireann (PIRA) is a criminal offence which in the past was punishable by death and deservedly so. PIRA have committed the most heinous crimes in Ireland, Limerick included. Bic McPharlane, who murdered the soldier and garda recruit in Co Leitrim who were trying to rescue the vixtim he kidnapped and tortured, has a history of sectarian killing in his native Ardoyne.This former seminarian should be deported back to Dublin and should meekly serve his time for murder, kidnapping, possession of weapons, theft and membership of a CRIMINAL organisation. All Sean South gave the world was a drinking song that even the Special Branch like when they have a few on them.
    Members of Sinn Fein should be made pay restitution for all their crimes and those of Sean South and sectarian killers of an earlier time too. At least one former hunger striker is now a multi millionaire. A pity he did not just concentrate on making money when he was a youngster instead of the crimes that are synonymous with SFIRA. Anyway, the CAB should confiscate anything he and other SFIRA fellow travellers have and give it to their victims.

  • Secur O’Crat

    http://flickr.com/photos/slainte/97360199/in/set-72057594061639988/

    Flickr has a photo of the shrine of this great Irish hero, who gave his life for the Peace Process some 50 years ago.
    Mary, Queen of the Gael, pray for him.