DUP offensive on McGuinness…

Interesting line from Anthony McIntyre, who thinks all the cards now reside with the DUP. In particular he believes that Martin McGuinness has been picked out for particularly rough treatment in the run up to St Andrews, in order to push Sinn Fein to abandon the idea of having a former IRA member as Deputy First Minister. If they are successful, Catriona Ruane seems to be his tip for the top.

  • arthur morgan

    Great piece.

  • Dualta

    The Sinners may have been banking on it all along. Suggest the DUP’s worst nightmare and someone like Ruane would be a much less bitter pill for the DUP to swallow.

  • How does this tally with SF having made such a big deal about seeing the end of [i]political policing[/i] before any deal can be made, and being Ruane the most high-profile member of the party to have openly admitted that the CRJ schemes are an SF creation?

  • kensei

    This is fantasy. SF won’t give it up, not least because it is impossible to sell.

  • Henry94

    Catriona Ruane wonderful though she is would not be next in line even if anything happened to Martin McGuinness.

    That would be Gerry Kelly I would suggest. It’s hardy worth the DUP’s while trying to bring that switch about.

    The old saying “a paper never refused ink” needs to be updated for blogs.

    A keboard can’t say no to fingers?

  • lies, damned lies

    I disagree with AM on strategy, but his analysis of the current state of play is absolutely bang on. Shameful actions by shameless people indeed.
    And shafting the children over academic selection. No principle is safe with these people. History will surely judge you for the traitors to our martyyrs that you are. Are SF leadership paycheques going to be issued directly from the new north down spook bunker?!
    SF make concession after concession to the DUP in order to be allowed to administer a degree of British rule. Disgusting.

  • Ulick

    Just goes to show how far out of the loop McIntyre is dropping. Catriona’s a nice lady with a lot of obvious talent and intellect but she’s not even on the Ard Chomhairle. Any replacement for McGuinness would need to be a lot more hard-boiled with well established form for putting up with unionist brickbats e.g. Pat Doherty, Gerry Kelly, Alex Maskey or Conor Murphy.

  • lib2016

    Even the mainstream press and leading politicans in the South thought the Ingram allegations were nonsense and had no hesitation in saying so.

    Where does this stuff come from and can I get on the payroll? Well – on second thoughts, maybe not!

  • Henry94

    darth

    What are you saying? You find Martin McGuiness more attractive? Fair enough.

  • Chris Donnelly

    Mick
    I have to believe unionists aren’t as daft as to believe that such a strategy could oust McGuiness?

    Think carefully about what McIntrye is suggesting: in order to make unionists feel more comfortable, Sinn Fein should shaft their own leadership? Why stop there? Couldn’t we give up supporting Irish unity, welcome the Brethren onto Garvaghy Road and drape the union flag from every lamp post on the Falls Road???

    This is a rather shallow piece by McIntyre. I’m sure he only pulled Ruane’s name out of the hat because it suits his own agenda of ridiculing certain figures within Sinn Fein. Whilst Catriona Ruane is a very able, articulate and intelligent spokeswoman, it would be very doubtful that she would be propelled into such a position of leadership within the party.

    But on the substance of the matter, this logic is indicative of a flawed analysis which somehow sees unionist sensitivities as the pivotal focus upon which the peace and political process should be developed.

    It is the very repudiation of this analysis which has led to Sinn Fein’s ascendant position within nationalism in the six counties.

    Republicans are hardly likely to cede any such wishes to unionists. Targeting McGuinness in a personal or political capacity will only bolster his reputation and credibility (just look back to what unionist attacks did for his reputation as Education Minister!)

  • páid

    Not the greatest analysis I’ve seen. Catholics have been engaging with and joining the police increasingly so staying out was not an option; now kneecapping is passé.

    And having large numbers of Catholics in the police, with knowlege of what the English spooks are up to, didn’t disadvantage Mick Collins.

    Taigs were kept on a short rein in the RUC; that organization knew what happened to the RIC. I figure the Shinners figure that, on balance, it’s time to move into the tent.

  • Uatu

    Sinn Fein seem to showboat their new up-and-coming stars before foisting them into the limelight.

    Kitty has been off the radar now for a while. Maybe her Danny Morrisin-esque appearance in the vicinity of those three Colombian tourists before they went walkabout has tainted her in the eyes of the Southern electorate. Since the Colombians found that trapdoor back home she seems unusually quiet

    What about that big chunky fellah with the jowlers that seems to have an open invitation on Hearts & Minds though??

  • If a witch-hunt to get Martin McGuinness is to succeed, then mainstream Republicans will decide his fate based on Sinn Fein policies moving away, at remarkable speed, from their traditional socialist roots.

    In this senario Martin McGuinness could the scapegoat, or should that be the “Scap- goat”

  • exorcising the ghost

    Whether it’s Ruane or not is beside the point. It can’t be Mary Lou because she is not an MLA nor will be one; it can’t be the others suggested here because they carry the same baggage McGuinness does – their IRA past. Most likely won’t be de Brun because she has had her bite at the apple. Adams has other plans. Gildernew, Ruane, have a high enough profile. Ruane has been at Adams side in the press pack. Not a hard leap to make.

  • What complete and utter nonsense!!

    There is not a mission that is going to happen or would ever happen. The leadership would not even contemplate it and the membership and grassroots would not accept it.

    This deal is going to be hard enough for the leadership to sell without that albatross around its neck.

    As has aleady been said on this board Catriona, while an able and affable representative and Republican, is not next in line to Martin. That space is occupied by Conor Murphy, Alex Maskey, Gerry Kelly etc.

    If AM really believes this nonsense then his condition is worse than orignally thought.

  • Elvis Parker

    Chris
    ‘This deal is going to be hard enough for the leadership to sell’
    I’ll stick my neck out and say they wont attempt too – having assessed reaction they will attempt to back away from this deal

  • Mark

    LOL

    Is this from the Portadown News or the Kevin Myers school of fiction?

    Utter bullshit.

  • thanks, Chris

    Now we know it will happen!

  • Now we know it will happen!

    Why is that?

  • *wink*

    “Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.” I think the reaction on this thread is good confirmation, lol.

  • joeCanuck

    If it’s true, as baby doc was touting a couple of weeks ago, that McGuiness is an MI5 operative, surely he must have already taken the oath of loyalty to the Crown.
    So, what’s baby doc’s problem now?

  • mickhall

    That members of SF on this thread are rejecting McIntyre’s suggestion because Ms Ruane was not next in line within the party’s pecking order amused me, What are you saying guys, it is not ability, suitability etc for the job what matters, but where you stand in the SF oligarchy that matters. Me thinks you will have to do better than that to convice us that AM is up shit creak with this.

    In any case this is not about Ruane, surly the meat of this is whether the DUP intend having some fun shafting MM at the expense of the British government. Whether they actually manage to achieve this is not the point. For in all probability either outcome will give this legs media wise. Which is perhaps a reason why Adams may feel it might be better if MM does not stand for this position after all.

    Chris D wrote,
    “But on the substance of the matter, this logic is indicative of a flawed analysis which somehow sees unionist sensitivities as the pivotal focus upon which the peace and political process should be developed.”

    Chris D, you will have to run this one past me again. If the SF leaderships logic in giving consideration into supporting the PSNI, the courts and entire legal system etc, is not to appease unionist politicians and thus the British government ,so that SF can get back into government in the north east, what is the purpose?

  • Pat Taffe

    Chris I for one could accept your comment – –

    ‘There is not a mission that is going to happen or would ever happen. The leadership would not even contemplate it and the membership and grassroots would not accept it.’

    – – were it not for the fact that it was said about decommissioning.

    Read the Blanket piece and it seems to say little about what Sinn Fein’s response would be to such a move. Merely says a few would be uneasy. Nothing new in that. After Fred and Denis nerves have been frayed. Certainly the DUP move on academic selection was to hurt Martin. And because they hate Martin so much why wouldn’t they try to undermine him by spreading malicious rumours that he is an agent? It does not mean they would get Ruane as DFM simply because SF are likely to tell them where to go. That wouldn’t stop them wanting it. DUP voters will accept powersharing easier if it involves Catriona rather than Martin.

  • DCB

    Chris,

    I have no clue as to the relative strengths of Ruane V Maskey etc. But there is one universal political rule which usually holds true – the anointed one rarely wields the crown

  • Chris Donnelly

    Mick Hall

    The purpose is to further the party- and republicanism’s- political objectives at this time.

    Policing was always going to be resolved in a manner which led to republicans endorsing a new policing structure- that much was always made clear by Sinn Fein.

    The DUP demand for Sinn Fein moves on policing in return for a return of the political institutions provides the former with some form of political cover to cross its Rubicon, but in reality republicans- and their communities- will stand to benefit from moves on policing when the time is right.

    Meanwhile, expect to see the DUP rolling from side to side as it comes to grips with its first political compromise. The type of blundering rhetoric and grandstanding on display today was a repeat of Trimble’s early- and oft-repeated- mistakes.

    The big difference, however, is that there is no one left to out-maneouvre Paisley within unionism. Bob McCartney, Jim Allister and I suspect many more may publicly grumble, but whose going to go to the wall for these individuals?

    Unionism at a grassroots level has moved on; loyalist paramilitaries, who provided a de-stabilising edge for the anti-Agreement unionists in the immediate years following on from the Good Friday Agreement, have been effectively demilitarised by their British masters.

    Whereas Trimble’s gaffes and blustering provided ammunition for the galvanised Paisleyites in the post-GFA era, no one is left to ‘out-do’ the Big nay-sayer of them all.

    If the DUP are actually the ones pushing for McGuiness to move aside to provide them with some cover, then that illustrates how little they understand the political party they are going to have to share the OFM/DFM office with for the forseeable future.

  • That members of SF on this thread are rejecting McIntyre’s suggestion because Ms Ruane was not next in line within the party’s pecking order amused me

    I rejected it because it is bullshit, the fact that Maccers got his chain of leadership wrong was just an aside

    What are you saying guys, it is not ability, suitability etc for the job what matters, but where you stand in the SF oligarchy that matters.

    This is not up to your usual standard Mick. Martin McGuiness will be DFM, if a a deal is done, because of merit.

    Me thinks you will have to do better than that to convice us that AM is up shit creak with this

    We don’t have to prove anything, all of his past form prove just how unreliable his “predictions” are.

    If you and others wish to live in a fantasy world then that is your choice, it isn’t up to me or anyone else to make you see sense.

    were it not for the fact that it was said about decommissioning.

    Very different issue Pat. It was the IRA that decided on decommissioning, it will be the Sinn Féin membership who have to agree to this.

    DUP voters will accept powersharing easier if it involves Catriona rather than Martin.

    Republicans don’t give two fiddlers f**k what Duppers find easier!

    It is Sinn Féin and Sinn Féin alone who will deicde our nomination for DFM, if such a nomination even takes place.

    But there is one universal political rule which usually holds true – the anointed one rarely wields the crown

    Most of the evidence suggests otherwise

  • Pat Taffe

    Chris, the leadership of the movement decided decommissioning. And some key SF people have dual roles such as Gerry and Martin who helped push the decommissioning decision. The IRA imaginably would put up more opposition than Sinn Fein. If they were turned inside out on decommissioning why would anything be difficult to push past Sinn Fein? I don’t believe it will happen because SF is unlikely to give into the DUP on this. But if the leadership wanted it to happen it would.

  • rapunsel

    What shite is on this thread. The original article by Anthony McIntyre was interesting enough — he was saying much the same at the weekend on Radio Ulster.

    “Certainly the DUP move on academic selection was to hurt Martin”

    Rubbish. The aim here was to appease the middle classes and the only ones hurt will be working class children and those form the protestant community in particular.

    “DUP voters will accept powersharing easier if it involves Catriona rather than Martin”

    What makes posters think that — because she is female, because she might not have been a “soldier” ,.

    Despite Martin McGuinness past I would suggest that he would be more palatable than Catriona Ruane ever would be certainly so to nationalists/republicans I have ever spoken to. Much more of a common touch.

    I recall feedback from non Sinn Fein supporters when he was Education Minuster carrying out a school visit in Co Down supposedly he was more interested in finding out the views of the dinner ladies as well as the great and the good. Ruane is an extremely arrogant and superior politician and was so as a community activist , intelligence doesn’t make up for these flaws, remember also she was born in Mayo ( that would really endear her to Unionists)

    http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/members/biogs_03/ruane_c.htm

    And is it not the case that she was at least for a while an absentee politician not even living in the constituency to which she was elected!

  • DCB

    Chris,

    Thatcher, Blair, Clinton, there’s more examples of outsiders taking the top job than there is of favorites coming home.

  • rapunsel

    One other point. Were there not ructions in the South Down SF when Ruane was imposed as an election candidate? hardly evidence of support amongts the grass roots for her supposed elevation?

  • Pat Taffe

    Rapunsel, the DUP have as many working class roots as SF. So I don’t think the class analysis explains all here. Would the DUP have been as eager to reverse the abolition of the eleven plus were it the policy of someone other than Martin? I would not disagree with your analysis of Catriona, but nationalists would be voting the party not the person. Bairbre did not exactly shine as a minister but the voters were ok about it. For the DUP Martin is the IRA and with their hatred for him it would be much more comfortable for their leader to be in government with Catriona rather than Martin. It might not be Catriona but somebody with no IRA past. It just seems so DUP to want to rub SF noses in it.

  • Michael

    KISS…Keep it simple stupid…the paranoia on here would make u believe that 2 humans could keep a secret for more than 2 minutes…hilarious and 3 mins?…even funnier…conspiracy theorists are for people who can’t get a bird on a friday night!
    I’d love to know what Andy’s take on the same spooks success in Iraq is…what are they undermining there?…Tony Blair…doh!…I think I’m on to something!…Tony was the female image beside Jesus in the last supper by Da Vinci…er and the geezer with the beard was Gerry…hold on …I got an article for the blanklet brewing…u r funny people!
    By the way u all know Martin Ingram is an anagram of Anthony Mcintyre…hehehehe!

  • don’t bogart

    Obviously the cannabis drought hasn’t affected everyone…

  • Crataegus

    You have to laugh really, Ireland seems to be cursed with generations of politicians, who won’t accept an achievable good deal when it is in front of their noses. If SF had been a little more amenable when the UUP were top dog? But no; so who do they end up with, the DUP and to what gain? 8 years wasted and with it all good will and idealism and in the end they look like a bunch of opportunists whose self interest is the uppermost consideration.

  • Brenda

    Don’t think it will happen as AM suggests-but anything is possible. IMHO Sinn Fein will not replace mc guinness to do so now, after publicly naming him as DFM would be a body blow that McGuinness would never recover from. For all of their faults I don’t think they are out to shaft McGuinness or one another within their own clique. McGuinness will be DFM I’d say-neither he nor SF can afford to back down now and change their policies in public to satisfy DUP demands. It’s nonsense. Altho the logic is sound. It will be interesting to see what happens to the 11+ and the rates issue. Still no mention by Sinn Fein of the on the runs. Conveniently forgotten about.

  • Pat Taffe

    Chris Donnelly, it seems to me that Sinn Fein don’t have any republican objectives left to advance or promote. The party has become a constitutional nationalist party. This is not a criticism but an observation. Where they go is a matter for them. Why they obsess with describing it as republican makes it look that they protest too much. Why care whether they are republican or not? Policing was always an issue but accepting the RUC was never on the cards. And it is unlikely that it will cease to be the RUC in the coming weeks. Maybe the DUP do not understand Sinn Fein. That should reveal itself in the coming months.

  • páid

    Chris Donnelly’s post compared to his detractors says to me that rumours of the Shinners’ demise are much overstated.

    They think. They plan. They move.

    The DUPs are up against a disciplined outfit.

    And don’t give us that line that the Shinners could have dealt with the nice guys from the OUP.

    The DUP had to be dealt with sooner or later.

    The DUP have been given 11 men and a ball and persuaded to take the field. Let’s see how they get on.

  • Billy

    There is absolutely no chance of SF dumping Martin McGuinness as DFM. It would be seen as a total climbdown.

    Unionists may be happier with someone else but most Nationalists would be happier with someone other than Ian Paisley. Given Paisley’s age – he could easily step aside and let Peter Robinson take the lead. Robinson is not liked by Nationalists but nowhere near as much of a hate figure as Paisley.

    There is no talk of this as a means of reducing Nationalist concerns so why should Sinn Fein make a change when the DUP won’t?

    A lot of this is just symbolism.

    If this executive ever gets going (which I doubt). I think that both Paisley and McGuinness will step down from their respective roles within 12-18 months and make way for younger and better qualified people.

  • ciaran damery

    Thing is, Anthony McIntyre is as much a unionist as paisley. He’s been writing anti-republican drivel for years and has even in recent times been quoted by such ‘notables’ as Dudley-Edwards and other Sindo gombeen ‘columnists’.

    In any case, it’s alleged that, “St Andrews happened because Blair knew Sinn Fein’s weakness: it has nowhere else to go.” Yeah it does, Anthony.

    Meanwhile, McIntyre never offers alternatives to his anti republican diatribes. He just spews them out without fear of reply.

  • offer it up

    Anthony McIntyre’s opinions are as much of a joke as the likelihood of Caitriona Ruane appearing as DFM. It is not going to happen.

    Martin McGuinness is going to be DFM. That will placate nervous SFers. Alex Maskey is out out out because of his heart attack. The big money should be on a Conor Murphy / Mary Lou leadersip at the next hurdle.

    CM is head and shoulders above the rest. Gerry Kelly is not too happy but get this Gerry: spouting on the BBC is not going to get you the Presidency of the party…

  • lies, damned lies

    I disagree with AM on strategy, but his analysis of the current state of play is absolutely bang on. Shameful actions by shameless people indeed.

    And shafting the children over academic selection. No principle is safe with these people. History will surely judge you for the traitors to our martyyrs that you are. Are SF leadership paycheques going to be issued directly from the new north down spook bunker?!

    SF make concession after concession to the DUP in order to be allowed to administer a degree of British rule. Disgusting.

  • Pat Taffe

    Can’t really understand this thread now. I thought the point raised in the McIntyre piece was that the DUP are out to shaft Martin in the hope of getting somebody else in his place. And to do that they may spread more false rumours that Martin is working for the Brits. Is that not what the DUP do? And to claim that they are too shrewd to think Sinn Fein will fall for it is a no brainer. When do deeply prejudiced people think clearly? If Martin moves aside for whatever reason the party will find somebody like Gerry K or Conor M rather than Catriona. However, this would not stop the DUP thinking something else. As Chris Donnelly suggests the DUP may not understand the way Sinn Fein think.

  • Nevin

    Has the Irish government stated that the Sinner parapoliticians are now fit for government? I suppose Bertie could always invite them to join his administration and give them a seat on the executive ….

  • lies, damned lies

    “Thing is, Anthony McIntyre is as much a unionist as paisley.”

    No, that is the sort of sh*t that sf sell out drones spout when AM makes them feel uncomfortable. Unionists may take comfort from his analysis but that’s only because he has the clarity and balls to stand up to the SF lie machine and point out that the PIRA emperor is stark bollock naked. He did 16 years for the cause. He has every right now to point out that his sacrifice and that of thousands others was a complete waste, given what SF have settled for.

  • darth rumsfeld

    “loyalist paramilitaries, who provided a de-stabilising edge for the anti-Agreement unionists ”

    LOL
    that would be the same loyalist paramilitaries who jeered Paisley when he turned up at Castle Buildings on Good Friday 1998, whose client parties the PUP and UDP endorsed the GFA, and who by your reckoning are tools of the British establishment- which I seem to recall was quite keen on the GFA. Yet all the time they were secretly controlled by the DUP and wee Jeffrey!

    No wonder you muppets won’t ever get a united ireland with brilliant political analysis like that.

  • Pat Taffe

    LDL – that is what makes people suspicious of Sinn Fein, when they accuse their republican critics of being unionists. Reading this thread, what seems to have given legs to Martin being replaced is not anything McIntyre said in his article but the way some Sinn Fein people (I don’t know if they are members or supporters)respond. They go OTT, don’t even read what is being said (apart from Chris Donnelly who seems to acknowledge that the DUP are capable of trying to pull that type of dirty stroke) and then by refuting allegations never made unintentionally prompt people to think that Martin could be removed. Sinn Fein must have brighter people than that. I know a lot of their members and they are much more clever than most of the people who argue the party line here.

  • mickhall

    Just a thought, may not MM be the best person to be DFM as far as the DUP is concerned, [leaving aside the reasons Anthony is inferring to in his article.] Might not MM due to his past feel he has to be more accommodating to the DUP standpoint and personalities, than someone else who does not carry MM baggage.

    Before someone gets on their cardboard soapbox and starts throwing silly abuse about, This is a question not [yet] my thought through opinion.

    Regards.

  • Bill

    Darth, there’ll be no United Ireland as long as reactionary provo bigots such as Mr. Gaskin are still in existence!!

  • Pat Taffe

    Mick Hall, you could be right. There are any number of motives the DUP could have. I don’t pretend to be a Sinn Fein sort of person but have voted the party in a number of elections. I don’t trust the DUP. And I happen to think that the article on the Blanket made sense in terms of showing how the DUP would love to shaft Martin and replace him with somebody else. The article also suggests that this is the main reason for slamming Martin’s abolition of the eleven plus. Maybe I am a bit naive but it makes sense to me. I think a good dose of cynicism is always the way to look at the DUP.

  • lib2016

    The DUP seem to have decided to show us how professional they are in comparison to the UUP by scoring an own goal in the first weekend of the ‘new’ agreement, meanwhile McIntyre takes a giant step towards discrediting ‘The Blanket’ which used to provide some interesting points of view.

    Sinn Fein must be really worried by this lot. If Paisley’s minders don’t get him back into his retirement home quick the DUP will have succeeded in making all that work in Scotland look completely ridiculous and the dissidents are getting more and more desperate with their talk of a sellout because Sinn Fein aren’t looking for a ‘Cuban solution’ when what we clearly need are Irish solutions for Irish problems.

    Sinn Fein are a credible socialist party building credible policies but they do need credible opposition. There seems to be a dire shortage of that in NI.

  • barnshee

    Its a no brainer really-if the Doc wants to wreck its easy- Just keep playing
    http://www.upmj.co.uk/McGuinness_radio.php4 as often as possible and ask the electorate

    “Should we share power with this person ??

  • circles

    he he he – Mr McIntyre does seem to have whistled up a wee rain cloud if not a storm. Funny to see how Sinn Fein posters have went for him (“as unionist as Paisley”) while batting away his piece with half arguments of seniority, and talk of “the leadership”.
    To be honest, I think McIntyre is writing through his hat and the piece is a piss poor piece of analysis, base well in the realm of fantasy. McGuinnes will still be DFM when Paisley has done his final year in the sun as FM and noisily shuffles of his political coil, passing the baton to the boul Peter R – FM in waiting.
    But the reaction of SF posters has me a bit rattled all the same. A trace of panic and overblown denials – which isn’t even necessary in this case. Or at least it wouldn’t be if they didn’t think this kind of thing was possible from a leadership that decides in secret and informs in public. I think the “fear factor” here of Cage Eleven making the call and informing the faithful later, as has happened before, has caused a few sweaty palms and frantic denials.

    Lib: “Sinn Fein are a credible socialist party building credible policies but they do need credible opposition. There seems to be a dire shortage of that in NI.” – hmmmm – I agree that credible oppositon is seriously needed, but unfortunately SF only do a very poor impression of a socialist party (I’m still pissed over the bungalow pay-off – amongst other issues)

  • mickhall

    lib2016

    I disagree with your last sentence, [leaving to one side your bit about SF being a credible socialist party for another day] Imo in the north what SF should have been about is becoming a credible opposition. Indeed the whole flaw with the GFA is that it leaves little room for a party to act in this role. It as if the British government wishes to blood all parties and force them to take responsibility for what in reality the government in London is actually responsible for. If that is not a soft shoe shuffle then what is?

    A decent opposition would have no need to get itself into such a twist over oaths etc. SF at this stage in the north was made to be the main opposition, for its whole history until of late has been about opposing b i g o t r y and British dominance of the north.

    Even if they sit as first deputy or whatever, they will never be allowed to pass legislation which the Unionists and London disagrees with, so what is the point? [accept the odd piece of legislation the British admin let through to disprove the aforementioned rule media wise.]

    Perhaps I am wrong but it seems to me this SF obsession for ministerial chairs that are all but powerless from a Republican point of few is weird. That the DUP struck out the 11 plus was no accident, for it was just about all SF had to show from its last period sitting in the comfy chairs and going home in the limo.

    I gives me no joy to use these terms but surly the point about being in government is that it gives you political power. I doubt even the most ardent of SF members would regard that there ministers had much real power the last time around, thus why would it be any different if there is to be a next time.

  • Levitas

    Reading Antony Macintyre’s usual bitter,twisted, and oh so meandering spleen driven stuff- just confirms how totally out of touch he is with the bulk of the Republican movement who won’t even give him the time of day.
    Furthermore, is’nt it really obvious that he is desperate for a platform now that his friends in the media don’t need this poor clown to perform his “provo-basher” dance,(well not right now anyway),(dont ring us Tony, we’ll ring you)…
    He is posing as a principled opponent of the GFA and the Peace Process, but he an’t got a thing to say about what he would do INSTEAD of it, in fact he is a one-trick pony useful only for venting spleen and jealous rage upon his former comrades. What a very sad act.

  • lib2016

    mickhall,

    Don’t like the idea of a Northern Assembly myself, still less one divided on sectarian lines. There were lots of times I dispaired of John Hume’s insistence that building links with Brussels and America was the way to go but fighting British thugs always had the danger of dragging Ireland down to their level.

    The GFA is the best we have and we’ve got to go with it. Nothing lasts forever and our children will have peace to sort it out between themselves and without British interference.

  • Pat Taffe

    Lib2016, how are we going to have no British interference? The GFA guarantees such interference. Devolving power to Belfast while at the same time sending in MI5 is British interference. I think the GFA curbs malign British interference but they still call the shots.

  • Pat Taffe

    Levitas, can I sign up to the Angry Brigade as well? This just gets worse.

  • lies, damned lies

    No ‘Levitas’, he merely has the balls to shine a light on the sheer treachery and incompetence of the likes of you. SF let the Brits beat us and achieved next to nothing in return. He at least has his dignity. Whic is more than can be said PIRA.

  • Pat Taffe

    LDL, when the discussion descends to the ‘solid’ ground where Levitas is comfortable everybody who takes part risks sinking in the same muck

  • circles

    LDL – what alternative to the current process would you suggest republicans should take?