Police reveal new method of beating racism…

SENIOR cop Mark Gilmore has urged those behind racist attacks in Lisburn to turn themselves in “before receiving a visit from police”. That seems pretty unlikely, as no-one has ever been prosecuted for a racist attack under the two-year-old hate crimes legislation. And, as the PSNI’s own statistics reveal, only seven racial offences were ‘cleared’ by Lisburn police last year – although ‘clearing’ a crime doesn’t necessarily mean there were any prosecutions. Perhaps asking the racists behind the attack to turn themselves in is actually the police’s best bet to secure convictions?

  • POL

    Paying loyalists off would be a good way to stop it!!The bidding starts now!!!!Two weeks unemployment benefit.

  • Rory

    Let’s have an amnesty. We could co0uple an amnesty on confessions of sectarian hate attacks with an amnesty on fish-knives. Fish-knives are just ever so naff and practically every household has one hidden away in the useless wedding presents drawer along with the fondu set.

    Just as many households in Lisburn have their own little sectarian hate monger tucked away useless for anything and embarrassing to admit to owning.

  • Greenflag

    Reward them 🙂 Send them on a months holiday to Shanghai or Mumbai or Soweto or Warsaw or Dingle depending on the ethnicity of their victims . With any luck the eejits will make some remark that the locals will object to . The feckers will end up behind bars and hopefully the locals will bate the shite out of them !

  • Crataegus

    Greenflag

    Your proposal may be cost effective and there is the potential to save money. Rather than privatise export, but I feel we need to chose more economic locations to those you suggest. I would strongly recommend

    Monrovia, Mogadishu, Abuja, Kisangani, Yangon, Waw, or Pyongyang.

    I bet they come back different people, there again they may decide to stay.

  • POL

    How about threatening no more Chinese,Indian take-a-ways in loyalist areas.

  • Greenflag

    Crataegus ,

    ‘I bet they come back different people, there again they may decide to stay.’

    Either way NI wins – home or away 🙂

    ‘Your proposal may be cost effective ‘

    Would be cost effective .

    They could of course also be given the early 19th century Van Diemen’s land optional choice ? .

    ‘Go to Monrovia etc or be hanged ‘

  • Greenflag

    Pol,

    ‘How about threatening no more Chinese,Indian take-a-ways in loyalist areas.’

    Now that’s what I call sheer genius 🙂

    Jayziz but you are a cruel bas###d 🙂

  • aquifer

    Racism is so endemic in some parts that sting operations would have to work.

  • jaun

    the fact that many racist attacks are carried out in catholic areas (the R.I.R.A. attacks in Ballymena on Latvian immigrants and the black people in Armagh city, for example) is again totally ignored by the guys who call for shankill folk to be sterilised when the community speaks openly about the conflict trauma has had on their little ones, (how many Prodie kids hung themselves off the front of the local church boys ?). Problems with multiculturalism, integration and acceptance can only be exacerbated when dogmatic bigots exploit them to pursue their own precautionary agenda. you don’t really give a damn about the suffering of these people, indeed you relish it as another excuse to make smutty remarks about a community your representatives terrorised and degraded for decades.

  • jaun

    the ####### was meant to read
    B – I – G – O – T – S

  • POL

    All joking aside though.

    facts are that since the ceasefires racist attacks have pretty much spiralled out of control.Shankill,ballymena and North and East Belfast(all areas of high tolerance lol)

    Now based on the facts that very few racists have actually been caught,would it be unfair to suggest that our psni are not only sectarian but racist also.

  • jaun

    precautionary = persecutionary. curse you spell check ! and on such a serious topic to, the reason these people are not being caught on is probably the same reason so many violent criminals are not caught on, that they live in small communities where they are well know and people are not willing to stick their necks out and tout for fear of reprisal.

  • POL

    Greenflag:

    Now that’s what I call sheer genius 🙂

    Jayziz but you are a cruel bas###d 🙂

    It makes sense though,Example:
    My kid throws his rattle out of the pram,i ban him from the playstation,He takes time out to reflect on his behaviour apologises to all concerned.All is forgiven. intended objectives met.He gets his playstation back after agreed ban has been fulfilled.

    Now take it one step further:
    Loyalists beat Chinese person in Donegal pass.We remove Chinese take-away service from that area.The loyalists take time to reflect on their behaviour,apologise to all concerned, all is forgiven,intended objectives are met,they get their take-away service back.

    Above scenario can also be used when Turkish(kebab)or Indian folk are the victim.Doesnt really help East European or philippino people though,unless we can take away loyalists Hospital needs.(they probably have a side deal with hospitals though, because they supply so many patients)

  • Oranges for Sale

    The problem of course, isn’t the individual foreigner but the sheer number of them being allowed into this country and the complete alienation of the local population which results. ATTACKS SHOULD ALWAYS BE COMDEMNED. But lets just consider where this ‘open border’ policy will lead. Sure, its fine for the leftist intellectually elite to play the multiculturalism card, but look how badly the British government have implemented this over the past 20 years in England, with disproportionately vocal ethnic minorities calling the shots and refusing to integrate into the mainstream (I’m referring to Muslims). Lets just stick to ‘Duo-culturalism’ (catholic and prod) shall we?

  • Greenflag

    Pol.

    On the surface what you say makes sense . But at the level of the individual ‘racist’ I remind you of the story of the scorpion and the frog 🙁

    Human nature being what it is people react differently to being ‘punished ‘ regardless of whether that punishment is of the benign ‘withdrawal of priviliges’ kind or the more direct kick in the arse variety . The latter has been known to work just as has the former .

  • Greenflag

    Ornages for sale.

    The Islamicisation of Europe is well under way . In France , Britain and Germany there are large islamic minorities . By the end of this century it’s conceivable that 40% or more of Western Europeans will be islamic in religious background . Europeans generally (with a few exceptions ) stopped rocking the cradle 40 years ago and what is now happening has been inevitable for some time .

    We can only ‘hope’ that over the years that the new islamic europeans will become defenders of european democracy and freedom of religion and civil rights which their religious ‘cousins’ in the Middle and Near East have such an aversion to .

  • George

    regarding the Chinese takeaways and Turkish kebabs comments, never clever to participate in racial stereotyping when discussing the problems of racist attacks on people.

    The main reason, in my humble view, that there is such a problem with racist attacks in Northern Ireland has nothing to do with numbers of foreigners, it has to do with a society resistant to change, fearful of its future and lacking confidence in its own ability.

    The Poles, Lithuanians, Chinese, Indians etc. are way more educated than the locals in the areas they are moving in to.

    Until this racism becomes socially unacceptable it will continue.

    There are still too many in these communities who don’t particularly like the methods but have no problems with the result.

    The idea that the paramilitaries are to blame is just a comfort blanket for those upright citizens who whisper “there goes the neighbourhood” as another stranger walks by.

  • Oranges for Sale

    George

    “The main reason, in my humble view, that there is such a problem with racist attacks in Northern Ireland has nothing to do with numbers of foreigners, it has to do with a society resistant to change….”

    Thats a fair enough statement, but why shouldn’t local people in this country be resistant to change? ‘Change’ obviously does make a lot of people feel uncomfortable, but what wrong with that? Just as long as they take non violent action. No society has ever experienced the amount of ‘change’ in a way that Northern Ireland has especially since the ceasefires. I read somewhere (although this may not be true) that about 100,000 migrants have entered Ireland seeking work since the the eastern European states joined the EU. Thats an astounding figure and I dont like it! The same goes for many other people here too. I dont mind workers arriving here temporarily under some sort of green card system as in the US, but thats just not the case here. Even if the Assembly was up and running, i doubt they would have the power to impose immigration restrictions for Northern Ireland, but I definitly believe that long after the current problems are resolved, immigration will be the next big issue for this country’s government.

  • Brenda

    regarding the rewards comments. A week or two weeks dole hardly seems fair when foreign prisoners can get at least two and a half grand, to go home, without any restrictions on them returning.

    Who says crime doesn’t pay?

  • George

    Oranges for sale,
    Nothing wrong with being resistant to change but the problem is that things are going to change anyway. It just leaves those resisting on the scrapheap. Adapt or die, I suppose

    Northern Ireland is in the European Union and wasn’t complaining when it got three times as much cash per capita as the Irish Republic.

    It can’t complain now when it has to deal with the effects of freedom of movement of labour, one of the four basic freedoms of the Union.

    “Just as long as they take non violent action. No society has ever experienced the amount of ‘change’ in a way that Northern Ireland has especially since the ceasefires.”

    I don’t know about that. Relatively, the Irish Republic has had more immigration in the last 4 years than the United Kingdom has in the last 30 years.
    And I do have a problem with many in these communities who don’t particularly like the violent methods but have no problems with the result.

    The reason there isn’t as big an issue south of the border where 10% of the workforce are now foreign is that there is a genuine effort to adapt, in my view.

    Granted, we don’t know what will happen if there aren’t enough jobs to go around in the future but, for the most part, Poles etc. aren’t seen as a threat but as an advantage.

    “Even if the Assembly was up and running, i doubt they would have the power to impose immigration restrictions for Northern Ireland”

    Of course they wouldn’t and immigration may well be the next big issue for some but it will be an issue that can only be addressed by leaving the EU.

    Don’t know about north of the border, but there will be less than 4,000 asylum seekers in the Republic this year and you have to subtract the numbers deported on the night flights to Lagos from that. A tiny number.

    Immigration or asylum seekers from outside the EU isn’t the issue, it’s internal European immigration that’s the elephant in the room.

    So if the people of Northern Ireland want to remain within the European family, they better learn to deal with their fellow Europeans. Or else they should plough their own furrow.