“Emphatic denial” of UFF disbandment announcement

UDA sources have emphatically denied the Sunday World claims that the stand down of the UFF was about to be announced. It seems the UDA is waiting for the 24th November as well.

  • JR

    Is it my imagination or is Unionist calls for disbandment of Loyalist Para’s not very vocal?

  • TAFKABO

    Well I would have said paranoia, but if you want to call it imaginsatiion, go ahead.

  • JR

    No TAFKABO – It’s imagination you illiterate buffoon.

  • Paranoia and an inability to argue a point without resorting to childish name calling. Good combo.

    The sooner the UDA exit the stage, the better for all concerned, but particularly for working-class unionist communities.

  • TAFKABO

    Well, since we’re being pedantic, you really ought to differentiate between illiteracy and an inability to type properly. If my poor typing skils are the only thing you can criticise me on, then I won’t lose too much sleep.
    A little testy this morning aren’t we?

  • TAFKABO

    I could pretend that the spelling mistake was deliberate, but once again my typing skills let me down….

  • Dr Strangelove

    The calls from Unionist politicans for the disbandment of Loyalist paramilitary organisations have never been that vocal. After all a lot of these self same politicans have a “sneaking regard” for these organisations.

    If they were to leave the scene then what bogeyman would the DUP et al conjure up to warn off the drift towards joint authority ?

  • Mike

    The ‘standing down of the UFF’ would be a fairly cosmetic exercise. What needs to happen is that the UDA disarms, completly, then disbands.

    Same goes for the UVF.

  • loftholdingswood

    The Sunday World prints this type of nonsense every six weeks or so to stoke up tension within. It used to work. It doesn’t anymore. The most important development in the last few weeks has been the fact that all is quite since the little contretemps in North Belfast (did I really say ‘contretemps’? – damn, must revert to type in the future, wouldn’t want the Sunday World to think some of us had an education).

    I think the Sunday World should do an expose on bullying in the workplace. In particular the bullying of a colleague by a senior colleague. In particular the bullying of a journalistic colleague including assault. Now that would be a story wouldn’t it Jim?

  • peter

    you’ve certainly left a teaser there Loftholdingswood… care to elaborate?
    even a wee bit…?

  • gareth mccord

    loftholdingswood
    name another paper who has exposed and put pressure and highlighted the main individuals in these groups so they can move as freely and do as much damage to us all? Your anger and chip on shoulder shouldnt hide the fact that the world has saved lives and prevented crime by exposing these scum to us all!
    as for uff standing down wise up people no uda uvf lvf etc etc will ever stand down! they change there name to community volunteers and hide amongst politicians to keep them happy!

  • peter

    Personally, I have found that the paper has always been on a ‘sticky wicket’ in regard to its given all paramilitary groups a hard time bar one notable exception…
    Funny that….

  • dough head

    loftholdingswood,
    reassuring to see that you view the reported prospect of a UDA/UFF standown as nonsense. As you are so evidently well-educated (chest puffed out in pride, no doubt because contretemps is such a big word!) can you please enlighten the uneducated masses as to the many community benefits that the continuing existence of this noble and selfless organisation will bring to the good people of Northern Ireland?

  • Manda

    Again….care to elaborate Peter?!?!

    As if u need to!!

    Gareth, do u not have the same contempt for the republican paramiltaries? Oh, sorry, I forgot, they’ve almost disappeared!

  • loftholdingswood

    “you’ve certainly left a teaser there Loftholdingswood… care to elaborate?
    even a wee bit…?”

    Hard to elaborate without giving the game away…..and my source. Suffice to say that that great bastion of truth and justice with the gruff voice and bald head has a rather nasty temper.

    Gareth,

    You have not a clue. The Sunday World has saved lives? It has set up more people than you have had hot dinners, spread mere gossip as fact and frequently colludes with both Republicans and the security forces planting (yes Jim we know who you meet in that little wee bar out of the way of known faces) spurious lies and distortions in an attempt to divide people. Successfully at times it must be said. It is derided in proper journalistic circles (yes we have contacts there too) as a loathsome rag that buys “stories” at £20 a touch from spotty little wannabe’s, sad drunks who want to spin a tale or two and drug addled bitter people who only dream of being involved in the grand scheme of things but who are sidelined and ignored. So stories get invented, contacts quoted (off the record, unofficially and without merit) and the great and the good of this province secretly purchase a copy (placing it between the Sunday Times no doubt) to titillate themselves or perhaps deride some pleasure hoping, just hoping that some of this smut is true. It is sometimes so wide of the mark that I laugh out loud. It is sometimes so accurate that it directly points to who is feeding them the correct bits. D’oh! Now and again when you look past the sex line adverts and the like (article on exploitation Jim? sex trade? Importing girls in from Bulgaria? might lose revenue on the sex shop ads though so best ignore it) you see the Sunday World for what it is; a voyeuristic evil pamphlet that serves the lowest common denominator (think that means you Gareth).

    Oh and Gareth? The main individuals are highlighted? By who? Why the Sunday World of course so it must be true. Think about it.

  • wowsers

    My my loftholdingswood, don’t hold back now sure u won’t!!

    Well said though!

    Waiting 4 the nasty response from Gareth………….

  • loftholdingswood

    “reassuring to see that you view the reported prospect of a UDA/UFF standown as nonsense. As you are so evidently well-educated (chest puffed out in pride, no doubt because contretemps is such a big word!) can you please enlighten the uneducated masses as to the many community benefits that the continuing existence of this noble and selfless organisation will bring to the good people of Northern Ireland?”

    See previous posts of mine. We need to decommission minds, the arms will surely follow. The latest IMC report will show progress. How do I measure progress? why the numbers of shots that are fired of course. We are eradicating violence at an unprecedented scale and pace. Not quick enough I hear you say. As I always say to the wife you never hear any reports of a non shooting or a non beating. Why? because they never happened silly!. Look at the statistics ( a civil servants wet dream). In the area where I live total number of shootings this quarter? Zero. Beatings ascribed to a paramilitary organisation? Zero. Progress. North Belfast I hear you say. Solved via people power. Progress.

    Here is a radical thought for you all; if all is quite and things are low key, negotiations ultimately bringing progress, areas calm, will this increase sales figures for the Sunday World?. Violence sells. Sex sells. Hatred and division sells. It keeps Jim in the latest 5 series BMW you see. No self respecting journalist would work or wants to work for the rag.

    Back to the “community benefits”. The only thing that shackles the community is the impoverished mindset that they have thanks to the likes of the Sunday World telling them what a sordid existence they have. They are expected to be the downtrodden masses so act accordingly. The villains have long since left the scene (be it by boat or by coffin). Areas are now free from a few dictator like individuals who used organisations to line their greedy little pockets. I went to one area recently and asked a few people about the last meeting they had and what questions they had asked. They told me they were just happy to get out the meeting without a “slap”. Charming. But that is in the past now and things change and people come and people go but the ideal remains the same; community togetherness, aspiring to be what we want to be and bringing us all to that better land.

    Tony Blair once said “Education, education, education”. And for once he was right. Education is a wonderful and powerful thing in the hands of a community that has been held back for too long. The Sunday World is far more fearful of an educated Loyalist than a fool with a gun.

  • faartrick

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  • john

    I think it’s fair to question the selective reporting by the Sunday World, the paper does only seem to focus on some paramilitary organisations.

    For example, a young man was shot in a punishment attack in Albert Street in West Belfast a couple of weeks ago, now the vast majority of paramilitary shootings have ceased in Nationalist areas , so it might have been interesting to see the Sunday World do a story on the event (as they are against all forms of violence), or perhaps the fact that the attack was blamed on members of the oira/workers party made it less newsworthy.

  • headmelter

    “Education is a wonderful and powerful thing in the hands of a community that has been held back for too long.”

    Pray tell, what or WHO held back that community?

  • loftholdingswood

    “Pray tell, what or WHO held back that community?”

    Undoubtedly a combination of lethargy, fear of individuals, Government inaction, Republican agitation, a “keep your head down” approach to life so typical of working class Protestants, impoverished lifestyle, lack of employment and a sense of alienation. To name a few things. And the Sunday World of course.