Ireland fall to the Germans

Ireland lost 1-0 to Germany in the first match of the European Championship qualifying group tonight. The Germans deserved their victory on the night, though the goal itself was unfortunate for Ireland – a deflection off of Robbie Keane from a free-kick. A great first half performance, which saw Shay Given make several crucial saves to keep the score level. Kevin Doyle played well up front, making several timely tackles to relieve the German pressure, but the failure to get Damian Duff on the ball more often meant the Irish side failed to retain possession for long enough to put together any more than a couple of half chances.
The decision by Staunton to substitute Ireland’s two most impressive outfield players- Doyle and Duff- was perplexing, and the manager did himself no favours by getting banished to the stands for several outbursts which ultimately cost him his place on the bench. Though the result was better than many expected, following that 4-0 home defeat to Holland several weeks ago, it still leaves Staunton and the team with an uphill battle to live up to national expectations, however unrealistic those may be…..Still, the Apres Match performance was top drawer, as usual!

  • Keith M

    A miserable match and we were lucky to lose by one. Given was the best player on the pitch.

    I predicted us to finish 4th in the group, but I think we could be down in 5th (behind Wales) by the end of qualifying.

  • Shoutback

    Surely that was John O’Shea’s last game in an Ireland shirt, he was woefully one paced again and out of position the entire match per usual.
    This big girls blouse has never stood like a man in the green shirt, he is the Oscar Wilde of international soccer without the finess or the wit, just the usual pansey preformance.

    DROP HIM FOR GOOD AND TELL HIM HE’S FINISHED

  • Chris Donnelly

    I thought the substitutions were crazy. Duff may not have had many opportunities in the game, but when he did he scared the Germans no end- the very fact that 2 Germans got yellow cards for hacking him down indicates how afraid they were of him. Taking Doyle off was lunacy- he was the brightest spark on the pitch (apart from Given of course.)

    I actually would have liked McGeady to have started the game in midfield.

    All in all, disappointing, but not the disaster many feared. However, I expect the Duff substitution to have left many players questioning Staunton’s judgement.

  • Perhaps Steve Staunton’s managerial career is being marked by the same finesse (or rather lack thereof) which accompanied his onfield performances.

  • Brendan, Belfast

    to be honest you cannot diss his on field performances, he was very consistent and utterly reliable.

    he was childish tonight and made a toally baffling substitution.

    very disspaointing and we willnot qualify.

    sooner Roy gets the job the better!!!

  • Chris Donnelly

    sooner Roy gets the job the better!!!

    Brendan

    I’ll assume you are taking the proverbial! I would have thought Roy’s first actions as Sunderland manager- in which he limited his signings to the criteria of being Irish, from Celtic or an ol’ drinkin buddy- would suggest that we look past former star players when appointing future managers???

  • Keith M

    I couldn’t agree more Chris. If the RoI ever select Keane as manager, I am going to drop my support forever. If there’s one thing that we’ve learnt from the p[ost Charlton era it’s that we need to break the old boys network, and get in a decent non-Irish manager.

  • Brendan, Belfast

    wasn’t mick mccarthy a non irish manager? he pretty much messed up at the end.

    i tell you = if Roy does the business at Sunderland (i.e gets them to the play offs this season) there will be a clamour.

  • Keith M

    McCarthy was the first of the “old boys” brigade. The only decent thing he did as manager was to face down the Cork gurrier.

  • Patrique

    I already stopped any support for the ROI because of their “banana republic” attitude to Keane. McCarthy actually is a very good manager.

    I do however take offence at “Shoutback”. Criticise John O’Shea’s football ability if you must, but to disparage the man for apparently being gay is sheer prejudice.

  • Harry

    Evict the whole shower of FAI nobodies from Merrion Square for a bad start. They’re a bunch of gombeens and money-loving wasters as far as I can see. We can do better than them and their low expectations.

  • Harry

    that should be ‘for a start’. ‘bad start’ was obviously freudian.

  • Brendan, Belfast

    McCarthy is a very good manager?? tell that to RoI fans, Sunderland fans and by the end of this season, Wolves fans.

    where is the evidence for this claim?

  • A disappointing result in Stuttgart. Given was outstanding but the most disappointing aspect of the game was our failure in front of goal.

  • Ranier

    ‘A miserable match and we were lucky to lose by one. Given was the best player on the pitch.

    I predicted us to finish 4th in the group, but I think we could be down in 5th (behind Wales) by the end of qualifying’

    What a moronic statement. The kind of statement i would expect from a Rangers fan. This was techincally Ireland’s hardest game in the campaign and they lost to a lucky goal. Dunne could have easily scored the equaliser in injury time. Ireland can field a team of 11 regular premiership players, something that few nations can. They will finish well above 5th you imbecile.

  • na

    Cllr Ryan,

    You left out the s in your blogspot link. I didn’t realise so many of you Labour bods were at this. Was it a recent decision made en masse, a party tactic? Or a series of individual initiatives?

  • lovelyleitrim

    Brendan, Belfast wrote

    McCarthy is a very good manager?? tell that to RoI fans, Sunderland fans and by the end of this season, Wolves fans.

    McCarthy has a reasonable reputation with Championship teams. He done well with Millwall, and brought Sunderland into the Premiership. Lack of finance affected the quality of his player purchases, with a more generous board, it might have been a different story. I expect Wolves to enter the Premiership in the Next 2 seasons. As Irish manager McCarthy’s team qualifed for the World Cup and that cannot be taken away from him.

    It’s early days for Staunton, he would not have being my choice (Martin O’Neill) but he is the boss and has to be given his chance.

  • Patrique

    Thank you Lovely Leitrim, that answers Brendan. To qualify for the World Cup with ROI is amazing.

    As for Ranier, it is because they have 11 premiership players that the team is poor.Look at the World Cup? Australia, 8 premiership players, versus Brazil, no premiership players starting. Who won?

    And how many premiership players had Italy?

  • Shoutback

    patrique,

    i don’t care what O’Shea’s sexual preferences are and i don’t care I was embarrassed to see him play like a pansey (big girl, effeminate, genteel, gutless) I have a gay friend who would wipe your clock as quick as he would say hello to you…. and I would never ever call him a pansey.

    its obvious you have issues of your own to deal with

  • Brendan,

    I have to admit I was never a big fan of Staunton. I remember we used to bet how long it would be in each game before he disasterously miskicked the ball to the opposition- as it happens, we weren’t holding our collective breath for very long.

    There seems to be lacking the strong camaraderie and vision which marked the team’s efforts around 1990-94. Whether the problem lies in management or the quality of players is the question, and probably it is an element of both.

  • AudacesFortunaJuvat

    ‘The kind of statement i would expect from a Rangers fan.’

    That is the kind of statement I would expect from an arsehole.

    Do the RoI not have an ex-Rangers player as their coach at the minute?

  • Brian Boru

    Steve Staunton is just too inexperienced in this arena. He should go and be replaced with Martin O’Neill.

  • willowfield

    “Ireland” wasn’t playing in Germany. It was the Republic of Ireland.

    The real Ireland team was playing in Belfast.

  • Chris Donnelly

    Willowfield
    zzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • willowfield

    Zzzzzzzzz all you like, but the team is only representing the Republic. The original and true Ireland team represents Northern Ireland.

  • Patrique

    Shoutback has come over all macho, I love it when you are angry.
    Look the ROI are nobody in soccer, 3 world cup finals, the best managed by Mick Mccarthy, despite traitors in the camp.

    N.Ireland are nobodies as well, 3 world cup finals, twice in the last 8. But at least we know it.

  • Willowfield-

    “Zzzzzzzzz all you like, but the team is only representing the Republic. The original and true Ireland team represents Northern Ireland.”

    Does that mean that this team you speak of is Irish, and all of its homegrown supporters are Irish?

  • willowfield

    Er, obviously!

    What an odd question.

  • Patrique

    Well said Willowfield, there’s only one team in Ireland. N.Ireland are the boys.

    Great to see the Cats winning today as well.

  • bob

    Patrique

    The premiership was the best represented division at the world cup if u are doubting its credability. We could go by arsenal and liverpool. Runnersup and Champions in the last two champions league finals. So pointing out how many irish players play in this league does give them credit. Maybe we could mention Finnan. He does play for liverpool. Maybe robbie Keane, ask a football fan how he did last season. Given one the the top keepers about. Dunne has proved himself consistantly. Fair enough Duff is shite. I know there are weaknesses but dont compare them to northern ireland. A lose against france sealed there fate last qualification campaign. You have a point there, imagine Thierry Henry scoring against u with the rest of the world cup ruuner ups.

    I think you will find the 1990 team progressed further and the 1994 team were the only team that could beat italy that tournament. 2002 i supported them but spain were not a great team we may recall S. Korea.

  • bob

    I wanted this statement on both pages so people could laugh

    “As for Ranier, it is because they have 11 premiership players that the team is poor.Look at the World Cup? Australia, 8 premiership players, versus Brazil, no premiership players starting. Who won?

    And how many premiership players had Italy?”

    France beat Brazil you may recall and only lost the final on penalty’s. Their players are second rate such as Henry, makalele and gallas.
    In the third place play off there was only to Ferreira and ronaldo with ballack and lehmen both subs for different reasons, none of which is their not good enough.

    One last point Brazil did have a premiership player against Australia. His name is Gilberto Silva. He came on in the 72 minute.

  • POL

    “Zzzzzzzzz all you like, but the team is only representing the Republic. The original and true Ireland team represents Northern Ireland.

    Seriously willowfield you can say a lot about the n.ireland game,but playing is`nt the word i`d use lol.

  • jfd

    What was truly awful about the performance was the lack of leadership on and off the field. The lack of responsibility shown by some players and most annoying Stan’s hissy fit on the sideline.

    Given the resources we have at our disposal, our manager must get the best out of them. It is Stan’s lack of strategic vision, his inability to have the team organised and doing the simple things correctly that is the most infuriating aspect of the current set up. I lost count the ammount of times we lost posession needlessly.

    All is not lost… yet! Keane, Duff, Finnan, O’Brien, Given are good, if not great players. The likes of Kilbane, Dunne, Reid, Carr etc remain soild pros, unexciting maybe, but solid. Doyle etc, are exciting prospects.

    What is required is organisation. Back to basics approach to what talent we have. Again, the fundementals are missing. Stan is the problem.

    McCarthy was a decent manager who understood the basics of the game, he maximised the potential of his squad and he had the balls to stand up to that unreconstrcuted knacker from Cork. Kerr’s team would never have been so prosiac and disorganised as Stan’s limp eleven.

    I agree with Eammon Dunphy on this issue. Presently, it’s a shambles. Worse yet it’s embaressing.

    Start a new chant:

    We’re not Brazil, we’re Republic of Ireland.

  • Tochais Siorai

    So, Willowfield does this mean you’d support a all-Ireland international team under certain conditions? (neutral anthem, flag etc?)

  • Tochais Siorai

    I watched Staunton’s post-match i’view and wondered had we been watching the same match. We lost by an unlucky goal but we could have lost by four good ones. Saying all the players played well was bollox and his own petulant behaviour wasn’t passion it was childish nonsense. Taking Duff off was monumentally stupid.

    Apart from the first 20, we were outplayed largely due to the fact we were completely overrun in midfield. Reid hides so much you could build a small hut on the pitch, put him in it and no-one would notice he was gone. O Shea wasn’t much better and Kilbane’s main asset, his pace, is going.

    Maybe SS will learn from his mistakes, that’s all we can take from that game.

  • jfd

    TS,

    Couldn’t agree more, the first 20 minutes were a revelation!

    Problem is Stans inability to get the most out of what we have – an average squad with some talented individuals.

    Personally, O’Shea is becoming a liability at the back – but really what else have we got?

  • Brian Boru

    The decision to replace Duff with Elliot at the end was most strange.

  • smcgiff

    ‘If the RoI ever select Keane as manager, I am going to drop my support forever.’

    Why wait, Keith?

    ‘They will finish well above 5th you imbecile.’

    Seconded. Ballack said Germany got the breaks. Keith, I’d bet the republic will finish in the top three. €20 to Slugger who ever is wrong. Bet?

    ‘Steve Staunton is just too inexperienced in this arena. He should go and be replaced with Martin O’Neill.’

    Martin wouldn’t touch the job.

    ‘zzzzzzzzzzzzz’

    Zzzzzzzzzz. It’s hard to have a headline like that Chris, and expect to get away with it (especially on Slugger, and that NI were also playing).

    ‘The decision to replace Duff with Elliot at the end was most strange.’

    Damien certainly thought so!!!

    Can anyone tell me how O’Shea gets his game with Utd (Awful and all as they are!).

    Overall, the ROI played their toughest game, were cruelly managed and were unlucky not to get a draw. The Czech Republic were lucky to beat Wales at home, so I’d say 2nd place is not beyond the bounds of possibility.

    Bring the Germans on to Croker!!!

  • Patrique

    Soccer being a multi-national business unfortunately means that the Champions League is fixed. Liverpool coming from 3 goals down to beat Milan? And you swallow that. More chance of Antrim coming from 12 points down to beat Kilkenny in the All Ireland hurling.

    The World cup is now about quantity rather than quality for the same money making reasons, hence the number of premiership players involved.

    And as previously stated, Brazil did not have any premiership players starting against Australia. I had backed Australia to win 6-0 because I believed the hype about the premiership.

  • bob

    you are wrong gilberto silva came on. shut up the champions league final was not a fix. I take it u have no knowledge of football, if u actually made that bet. Check the bbc match report for brazil versus australia

  • Patrique

    Just for Bob. The word starting means at the beginning. Gilberto CAME ON, but not at the beginning, sometimes called start.

    I backed Italy at 8 to 1 at the start, having no knowledge of soccer.

  • bob

    patrique

    You got me on the start fair enough

    You are either lying about the italy or australia bet i suspect both.

    Back to the “fixed” champions league. Where do the italian players play? Oh thats right a league that was fixed. How have they done in Europe latley. I believe their last final they were beaten fairly by a premiership team. Correct me if im wrong this time. Maybe u do believe paulo maldini threw his last chance at major glory. i have more respect for this great player than to think this. Where is ur evidence of a champions league fix or is this ur opinion. If u need evidence of a italian fix, knowing so much about football u wont need to remember too far back.

    I suppose arsenal threw it as well.

  • Patrique

    Arsenal was the “fix” to promote a useless premiership, Liverpool were about to disappear over the horizon and not even qualify for Europe, so they had to let them win it. Of course the Italian league was fixed, you are the one arguing that football is straight, not me.

    Both Arsenal and Liverpool are members of the G14, just like Porto, or did you really believe that? If Milan win every year, people stop watching, just like when Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry were winning all the snooker tournaments, so they had to fix those. Anyone for an 18-17 black ball world final, featuring the popular Dennis Taylor. It’s all about money.

    This year Man United, Arsenakl and Liverpool were all top seeds in Europe, Chelsea, with a better domestic and European record in recent seasons were not. Chelsea are not G14.

    Do you really believe that Man Utd and England are LUCKY enough to get into a soft group all the time?

    And if football is straight, how come in 2002 World Cup the Yanks didn’t qualify but got beat in the quarter final? Haven’t met anyone yet who could answer that.

    Obviously the Aussie bet was a wind up, the Italian one was not. Neither was the bet on South Korea to make the semis in 2002, not because I thought they were a good team, but the far east, like USA, is a major new market.

    But, I may be wrong. When Liverpool came from behind to beat Milan, they had lost 17 games that year after falling behind, as they had no plan B. Mind you that was to super powers like Man City, Norwich, Crystal Palace, Southampton (all relegated) Everton, Aston Villa………. So being 3-0 down at half time to Milan should be a snip.

    And to make matters worse, at half time I bet my work mate a straight tenner that Liverpool would win on penalties, because you get more advertisements in that way.

    I see there was a 90 minute advertisement on TV last Sunday, Brazil V Argentina, or Kentaro V Renova to give it its proper title.

    Let us leave the last word to David Gill of Man Utd. Wayne Rooney, on a miserable £65K a week asks for a £50k a week increase, and Mr Gill says “his eagerness to sign a long term deal is great”.