The wrong sort of involvement in policing..

Beano spotted this. And there apears to be only one report that I can find of it. A Sinn Féin MLA, Fra McCann, was arrested on Saturday evening for disorderly behaviour and assault of police after an incident during which, by his own admission, “I tried to put myself between one of the officers and the girl [who seems to have been arrested for attempted robbery] when the police officer radioed for assistance.” That’s not the kind of involvement in policing some had in mind.
His version of events:

Fra McCann was walking home from the town centre at approximately 7.30pm on Saturday when he noticed an incident near Divis Street.
“I saw two police officers, one man and one woman, manhandling a young girl aged about 14 or 15 at the railings of the Morning Star hostel,” said Mr McCann.
“I approached them and said there was no need to be so aggressive as the girl was hysterical.”
“I tried to put myself between one of the officers and the girl when the police officer radioed for assistance.”

While the police had this to say:

The PSNI confirmed they were at the scene but didn’t respond to the accusation of heavy-handedness.
“Police received reports of an incident at around 7.40pm on Saturday.
“Police arrived at the scene to find an altercation was taking place between a group of young people.
“One female was arrested for attempted robbery.
“While police were at the scene, a number of other people became involved.
“A 53-year-old man was arrested for disorderly behaviour and assault of police.
“He has since been released on bail.”

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  • Brenda

    tut tut tut

  • Pete Baker

    Brenda

    I’m reluctant to underplay the potentially serious implications of this incident.

    But.. Do you think the words “Don’t you know who I am?” were uttered at some point?

  • Brenda

    Actually pete those words are said by the gentleman in question a lot. I heard of one taxi firm who do not like to lift the said gentleman because he refuses to pay them. He just walks off.
    ‘DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?’ and ‘Hurry up I’m on SF business’.

    Doesn’t put food on the taxi mans table tho does it?

    LOL

    another one he says is, ‘I’m out side the city hall hurry up are you trying to get me shot? LOL Thats what he tells the drivers.

    On another note I saw Noel Thompson today in town. I was very tempted to say to him ‘Hi Noel any news?’ LOL LOL LOL

  • Betty Boo

    Brenda,

    LOL
    LOL LOL LOL

    I hope for your own sick that you are just having an identity crisis and not morphing into Jack.

  • Pete Baker

    I do find it very strange, though, that an MLA gets arrested on a Saturday evening for disorderly behaviour and assault of police..

    ..and there are no reports about it apart from the linked article online on Monday..

  • Brenda

    Pete

    Maybe he just fancied a chat with the local constabulary and things got out of hand LOL.

    Disorderly behaviour and assault. LOL LOL LOL.

    I wish I’d saw it. And outside the morning star hostel!!

    [edited moderator]

  • Pete Baker

    Brenda

    Keep to the ball!

  • Brenda

    sorry. you can pull those if you like Pete. I just thougt it was rather funny.

    (lol)

  • Pete Baker

    Brenda

    I’ve left what I think Slugger can get away with.

    As I said, there are potentially serious implications from this incident and I don’t want the thread to focus on the less serious side.

  • Rapunsel

    sometimes the insider and knowing comments on this site get particularly annoying — is this to be an open site for discussion and debate or not. I had wanted to post on this topic– but Brenda or whoever you are , you’ve probably killed the thread!

  • Pete Baker

    Rapunsel

    Regardless of what has already been said, there is nothing preventing you from posting what you intended to.

  • Dec

    Just the chattering classes at play, Rapunsel

  • Pete Baker

    Noting that an MLA was arrested for disorderly behaviour and assault of police is chattering, Dec?

    If only other media outlets chattered as well.

    As I have repeatedly said on this, there are potentially serious implications from this incident.. not least for the MLA concerned.

  • Dec

    Pete

    The thread is entirely valid. I was referring to the nudge-nudge, ‘insider track’ gossip Brenda engaged in (correctly highlighted by Rapunsel) which you facilitated, imo. I’m not sure how many other media outlets would allow what was essentially unsubstantiated gossip to to be passed off as fact. As regards the allegation of assault from the PSNI, please excuse my sniggers.

  • Pete Baker

    Dec

    Nothing has been passed off as fact.. what remains after my editing is clearly allegation only. And, far from facilitating, I highlighted the use of gossip and edited the more dangerous, for Slugger, elements of it.

    None of that negates from the point I made that Rapunsel, or anyone else Dec, can put forward their own views on this thread from this point onward – that’s views on the topic rather than the comments.

  • This is clearly a political act. Fra should go on the blanket, if not on the lam.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    ‘I do find it very strange, though, that an MLA gets arrested on a Saturday evening for disorderly behaviour and assault of police..

    ..and there are no reports about it apart from the linked article online on Monday.. ‘

    Maybe even the local meeja have had enough of these tiresome policing displays against SF politicians. We’ve had it for a few decades, SF politician arrested on whatever spurious PSNI/RUC excuse, 6 months on charges, if any, are dropped move on to the next time.

    ‘As I have repeatedly said on this, there are potentially serious implications from this incident.. not least for the MLA concerned.’

    Hyperbole, dressed up as serious comment.

  • Yokel

    FFS Pat wheres yer sense of humor. Fra ballsed up rightly and was pissed to boot. He can think himself lucky, in the old days he would have got a kicking in the back fo the meat wagon…another sign of progress…

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Yokel,

    nothing to do with humour, just bambooozled at attempts to breath life into a non story.

  • Pete Baker

    Well, Pat, it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve disagreed about what is or isn’t noteworthy.

  • Spurious? By his own admission he basically tried to intervene in an arrest. IANAL but it sounds like blatant obsruction of justice.

  • Rapunsel

    I see that this was really going to go nowhere from the start. I agree with you Pat- really a non story. A good few years ago I was walking home one night in the University area and intervened trying to prevent an RUC man assaulting a member of the public. My intervention was unsuccessful – said member of the public received a punch in the face and I ended up in Donegall Pass RUC station until the early hours. The paralells are limited as I’m not a shinner and had no particular hatred for the RUC other than general antipathy towards the police in general

  • Pete Baker

    Rapunsel

    I have 2 observations to make on the suggestion that this is a non-story:

    1. An elected member of a legislative assembly, whatever the current semi-conscious status of this particular assembly, being arrested for disorderly behaviour and assault of the police is a story – as is the failure of other media outlets to report it. IMO our special circumstances make it more so.

    2. Clearly, reading the only available report, Fra McCann also thinks it’s a story, if for other reasons, as the police comments are in response to what he has said to the reporter.