Last days of Bobby Sands

FilmFour is apparently (reg required) developing a film based on the last six weeks of the life of Bobby Sands. Which feels like something that someone else might already have done.. except that I can’t think of any movies that focused entirely on him.

A brief Google, however, found this recent Italian movie, which I’ve never even heard of..

  • harpo

    Summary of this thread so far:

    A movie about Bobby Sands is mentioned. A movie that distorts/ignores facts about him in the interest of the directors point that it is all about him being a martyr.

    A unionist points out some facts about Sands – his war crime for example – and ‘nationalists’ spend the rest of the thread avoiding addressing this issue. Some of the nationalist attempts at diversion from the point raised:
    What about the guns that are legally held by unionists?
    What about Billy Wright?
    What about the Shankill Butchers?
    What about the oxygen that nationalists are denied?
    What about the British Army in Iraq?
    What about Oliver Cromwell?
    What about Nazi Germany?
    What about Stalin’s USSR?
    What about Pol Pot’s Cambodia?
    What about the right’s of nationalists in NI?
    What about republicanism?
    What about the US political system?
    What about the British political system?
    What about the unionists?
    What about harpo’s lack of understanding about what war is really like?

    Is there even one nationalist who will address the issue of the war crime carried out by skinny Bobby?

    Or do we have to work our way right through the list to ‘what about Dresden’?

  • Wat the Tyler

    “And maybe English isn’t your first language. It’s ‘you’re’ in this case (short for ‘you are’) not ‘your’.”

    Thats called a bit of text language. Its a bit rich coming from someone who just used the word “whataboutery”…

    And Harpo..i completely understand the term “irony”…i think in this matter you just cannot see it…

  • duffy

    Wat,

    Why not make an effort and contribute something almost thoughtful to the thread? All this solo bickering is getting the discussion nowhere.

  • harpo

    ‘Its a bit rich coming from someone who just used the word “whataboutery”…’

    My comment was just me being snippy in response to this:

    ‘LOL Harpo your apparent intellect amuses me.

    Maybe your too thick’

    If that’s the way you want to play it then fine. I was giving as good as I got. You imply that my intellect is only apparent and that I am thick, and you will get something pedantic in return.

    As usual, people like you are good at handing it out but don’t like taking it.

  • King Cnut

    I think it is ironic that Sands son is a chef.

  • harpo

    ‘I think it is ironic that Sands son is a chef.’

    King:

    Now that’s irony. Many could learn from you. Fighting for a cause and then being abandoned by that cause is many things, but I don’t see any irony in it.

  • Wat the Tyler

    “My comment was just me being snippy in response to this”

    So you can wholeheartedly say that you put the word “whataboutery” in as a response to my lapse in grammar…now whoose making up things?

  • friendlyCreggan

    HARPO

    It’s so obvious that DC is not operational at present with your ultra LONG posts on here 🙂

    Your ‘BOBBY SANDS OBSESSION’ carries on then does it?

    Have you no other ‘campaigns’?
    Like, for example, why have ‘Loyalists’ murdered 30 Protestants since 1998? No, do you not care about this ‘terrorism’?

    OK: carry on……..Sands, etc….

  • Cahal

    Harpo, you can slag off Bobby all you want – a man who starved himself to death in his opposition to British rule.

    Ultimately, the day will come when a 32 county Irish Republic becomes a reality and Bobby’s story will be complete.

    Let that anger out, it is eating you up.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Creggan:

    No, DC simply got tired of trying to teach the pig to whistle.

  • UNdisclosed

    All you unionists are calling Bobby sands a terrorsist, well the UVF is abunch of fucking terrorists, the LVF is a bunch of fucking terrorists, the UDA is a bunch of fuckin terrorists, neither side is innoncent both have blown things up and shot at each other and killed numerous amounts of people, now that fucker that started the LVF he isnt a hero, Cromwell That old fuck aint a hero, king william just a fuckin peice of shit, so fuck all you loyalists and uniost fucks you peices of shit stole the land, the name is Norhtern Ireland The keyword in that fucking name is “IRELAND” read it you fuckin retards IRELAND.now ge tthe fuck out of our country you peices of british shit.

  • harpo

    ‘All you unionists are calling Bobby sands a terrorsist, well the UVF is abunch of fucking terrorists, the LVF is a bunch of fucking terrorists, the UDA is a bunch of fuckin terrorists,’

    Good man UNdisclosed. Now you’ve got it. The loyalists were terrorists and skinny Bobby and his PIRA and INLA pals were terrorists.

    Well done.

    I think you need to work on your delivery of the ‘hands across the divide’ message in the latter part of your post though. People were just talking earlier about Wolfe Tone and the true spirit of republicanism. You seem to have missed the point of it all.

    But then you seem to be the rabid nationalist type. Not the enlightened republican sort.

  • Rory

    It is more than likely that the US would permit a march to glorify the 9/11 attacks – the constitution would see to that. The American Nazi Party marches in black areas with police protection. They demanded the right to so do under the constitution and were represented in that challenge to the courts by the American Civil Liberties Union (mainly composed of New York Jewish, lefty Boston Irish and Afro-American lawyers) who, whatever of their detestation of the Nazis, considered the principle important to defend. Constitutional freedom of the press also allows for rabid shock-jocks to spew their excrescences on the radio airwaves often, sadly, to great popular acclaim.

    It would however be suicidally unwise to undertake such a demonstration, whatever the legal position.

    If, as yet, there have been no legal challenges to the constitutionality of the Patriot Act, I suspect this is rather more as a result of a recognition that the time for such a challenge is now not politically ripe rather than as a lack of principled determination on the part of the progressive forces in the US. There are many, many American citizens of good conscience who are appalled by US foreign policy and by the consequent erosion of civil liberties and their voices are being heard slowly but surely. We are fortunate to have some of them visit and post on this site from time to time.

  • harpo

    F Creggan

    ‘It’s so obvious that DC is not operational at present with your ultra LONG posts on here :-)’

    Indeed.

    ‘Your ‘BOBBY SANDS OBSESSION’ carries on then does it?’

    Your obsession with me carries on does it? Following me to other boards?

    ‘Have you no other ‘campaigns’?’

    Many.

    ‘Like, for example, why have ‘Loyalists’ murdered 30 Protestants since 1998? No, do you not care about this ‘terrorism’?’

    Of course I care about it.

    ‘OK: carry on……..Sands, etc….’

    I will. Thank you.

  • Chicken Supper

    I remember going to school when Sands died, I had to pass a Nationalist area, and inevitably myself and younger sister got a beating.

    My sister actually had her arm broken.

    All week scum passed our school singing the bastards name.

    So I´ve just got one thing to say to any of you that where there.

    “Could you go a chicken supper Bobby Sands”….

    Check out the laughing loyalist online for the full tribute to the skinny git, it will make you feel better after reading all this Bobby was a saint bullshit.

  • friendlyCreggan

    Harpo

    ‘Your obsession with me carries on does it? Following me to other boards?’

    Eh? That is so childish that it shouldn’t even merit a reply but anyway…It’s just that you never give over about Bobby Sands, it’s almost as if you actually admire him and the rest of the 1981 hunger strikers..

    ‘Many’

    Let’s hear them then…

    ‘Of course I care about it’

    I’ve never seen you too hot and bothered about it, say for example as you are about the hunger strikers from 1981?