Invitation too much for some

The kind invitation of the Chicago Gaelic Park to the visiting Northern Ireland football team was the cause of protest for others. Up to 80 Irish-Americans, under the title of Chicago Irish Against Sectarianism, vented their anger at the visit of the team. The Voice of Irish Nationalism is unimpressed with the antics as is North Report. The national team are in Chicago as part of their USA tour with the next match against Romania and Hibs player Ivan Sproule (who was bitten by a Uruguay player in the last match) is hopeful of a result.

  • Sickening really. Fair play to the GAA club for the invitation in the first place, but these Chicago Irish should be ashamed of their petty attempts to politicise a football match – and an exhibition one at that.

  • in the land of the free and the home of the brave the right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression and assembly is enshrined in the written constitution. This encompasses a right to protest, peacefully. The BelTel writes…”it was a peaceful protest, there were a few anti-IFA chants as the players..” so I find it strange that it might make the from page of a ‘national’ newspaper in comparison with some protest held in the Sick Cos.
    Must have been a slow news day.

  • Tony Clifton

    ‘anonymous’ about sums it up really blindly defending something is as bad, it seems the only reason for your post was to include the phrase ‘sick cos’

    On topic if it was a peaceful protest I dont see any problem apart from the fact that it seems a bit petty, it was a good will gesture and pr event all round.

  • on another thread I asked “…Will the new chant U – R – A – Gay be reviewed by FIFA in light of the latest UEFA ruling re rangers that reprehensible behaviour tolerated by society has to be accepted by footballs governing bodies…” but never heard back from Realist.

    Would you care to comment about the homophobic behaviour?

    Tony, my post was seeking to put things in perspective. BelTel was highlighting what happened in Chicago, I thought I’d put it in perstective.

    You’ll note that I didn’t offer opinion. However as you seem to have mis construe the reasons for my postings then…I agree it was petty and unproductive. A self inflicted finger in their own eyes.

    Soccer makes headlines these days about racism / sectarianism. However BelTel ignored the homophobia?

    Many people used Sick Cos. so I think you should get used to it. I think it might be apporiate in a posting about ignoring homophobia.

  • Tony Clifton

    anonymous

    I despise any form of bigotry at football matches, homophobia just as much and ignoring it only magnifies the problem, creates the illusion that it is ok….so on this point it seems we are in agreement.

    As for the sick cos comment, I accept that it appears alot (Iam a regular reader but not poster) that doesnt make it right. I guess it depends on the meaning, however I would take it to mean that the six counties and those within are sick (twisted wierdos). We do live in a world full of things that arent as they should be, I dont think the ‘six counties’ are any worse or better than the rest of the world, in fact we are quite well off in that respect.

  • Realist

    Anonymous,

    “on another thread I asked “…Will the new chant U – R – A – Gay be reviewed by FIFA in light of the latest UEFA ruling re rangers that reprehensible behaviour tolerated by society has to be accepted by footballs governing bodies…” but never heard back from Realist”

    Indeed.

    FIFA will be busy dealing with homophobia at football grounds all around the world, won’t they?

    Once they’ve rid football grounds throughout the world of all traces of homophobia, maybe they can tackle the issues of fatism in football too eh?

    Catch yourself on.

  • Real,
    you couldn’t be the bigger person like Tony was and write “I despise any form…”

    Sad really.

  • Harry

    Fair play to the protesters.. Why let a sectarian football team into your club. A team that discriminates against Catholics and represents a “statelet” whose bigoted protestant inhabitants celebrate the slaughter of innocent young Nationalists.

    Anything that highlights this to the world can only be helpful in crushing this evil “statelet”.

  • Pattila the Hun

    I kinda like you Harry; you talk crap but at least you’re honest, you just come right out and say what other nationalists think, but this….

    “A team that discriminates against Catholics”

    … is not the most sensible comment you have made. A wee clue, do a bit research into the present players’ backgrounds.

    Anonymous
    That’s the first time I’ve heard about this homophobic chant. Were you at the game? If not, where did you hear about it?

  • Realist

    “That’s the first time I’ve heard about this homophobic chant”

    Didn’t “Jim from West Belfast” claim that he heard “The Sash” being sung on TV at Windsor Park during Northern Ireland’s most recent match there on Talkback recently?

    A fellow West Befast Catholic/Nationalist who attended the game with her family informed that “Jim” was telling porkies.

    Anonymous,

    If the worst you can lay at the door of Northern Ireland fans is some un PC (and rather childish) chanting, then you really are scrapping the barrel.

    Such un PC rascality takes places at football grounds all over the world, week in, week out.

    That’s not to say I support it mind…just telling it the way it is!

    Harry,

    “Why let a sectarian football team into your club”

    The Northern Ireland team on tour in the USA (like that of every Northern Ireland representative team, at every level) is “mixed”.

    Players from GAA backgrounds play for various Northern Ireland representative teams.

    How many players playing in the Ulster Championship GAA competition are from a Protestant/unionist background?

    Makes your pathetic assertion look rather limp, doesn’t it?

  • robert

    Did any members of the (non sectarian apprentice boys, lets hire a paramilitary band to lead us on parades)n.i supporters club on the ormeau road attend the game in the U.S ??

  • Realist

    “Did any members of the (non sectarian apprentice boys, lets hire a paramilitary band to lead us on parades)n.i supporters club on the ormeau road attend the game in the U.S ??”

    Not sure Robert, but I know some Tyrone GAA supporters, wearing their county colours, mingled freely with the Northern Ireland fans in attendance at the Giants Stadium.

    Why, I’ve even seen a photo of a lady clad in the green, white and golg Kerrry kit posing happily for photos with the travelling fans.

    Progress…don’t yesterdays men like you just hate it.

  • Thomas (Myles) Mc Kenna

    MN Ireland foot ball team ,GAA its all a lot of balls .Whwn will some one drag you sorry lot into the 21st Century

  • robert

    “Why, I’ve even seen a photo of a lady clad in the green, white and golg Kerrry kit posing happily for photos with the travelling fans.”

    Unlikely to happen at Windsor Park unless she wants to ends up like Anne-Marie Smith who was abducted and murdered in a Glentoran supporters club in Belfast after fans found out she was catholic.

    “Progress…don’t yesterdays men like you just hate it.”

    Perhaps you should relay the above comment to your fellow supporters who march with paramilitaries during parades.

  • Curious

    On another sporting news item – How did New York get a team in the Ulster hurling final? Surely they should’ve been in the Connaught or Munster?

  • JohnKingII

    Nice to see SF/IRA, Iran, Hamass and Hizabollahs freedom fighter equality agenda as long as it’s our agenga is spreading far and wide.

  • D’Oracle

    Why wouldnt fellow Irishmen be welcome by Chicago GAA and some of them even carrying Irish passposts to prove it (which, by all accounts, is saying more than for a lot of the GAA types in them thar parts)

  • robert@

    “if the worst you can lay at the door of Northern Ireland fans is some un PC (and rather childish) chanting, then you really are scrapping the barrel.”

    Was senior irish football association official Bobby Jameson not running round Portadown and the surrounding area painting out murals that related to the lvf and yet had no problems leaving murals which commemorated his brothers organisation, the uvf.

    Does Jameson support the ‘give sectarianism the boot’ campaign ???

    “The latest killing, the shooting of 46-year-old Portadown UVF commander and former RUC man Richard Jameson on Monday 10 January, is believed to have been carried out by the LVF in retaliation for a UVF attack on several LVF prisoners.”

    “hen, on 27 December 1999, it is alleged that Richard Jameson was drinking in Portadown Football Social Club (two of his brothers are directors of the football club) when he got into an argument with a number of LVF prisoners who were out on Christmas bail from Long Kesh. Jameson left but at around 5.30pm a number of men wielding baseball bats entered the premises and began attacking drinkers. Twelve people were injured during the clashes. Among those injured, it is believed, were a number of LVF prisoners.”

    “ameson was killed on Monday 10 January as he parked his jeep outside his home at the Derrylettiff Road, five miles outside Portadown. A gunman approached the vehicle from the passenger side and fired through the window, hitting the UVF commander in the head and chest before making his getaway in a nearby car.”

    How many official supporters clubs in the irish league have paramilitary connections??

  • Doctor Who

    I don´t know robert, mabe Clifonville.

    If you find out tell me and then do the same with GAA supporters, as you maybe more likely to uncover a few connections there.

  • Realist

    Robert,

    “Unlikely to happen at Windsor Park unless she wants to ends up like Anne-Marie Smith who was abducted and murdered in a Glentoran supporters club in Belfast after fans found out she was catholic.”

    Fans of whom?

    What’s your point?

    Why are GAA trophies and clubs named after paramilitaries who belonged to gangs that committed sectarian slaughter of Protestants?

    “Perhaps you should relay the above comment to your fellow supporters who march with paramilitaries during parades.”

    I’m sure there are some paramilitaries amongst the fanbase. I would think a few similarly frequent Celtic Park and GAA grounds and clubs week in, week out.

    What’s your point?

    “Does Jameson support the ‘give sectarianism the boot’ campaign ???”

    I don’t know, I’ve never asked him.

    Portadown Football Club have a cross community staff. His money pays a lot of the wages.

    “How many official supporters clubs in the irish league have paramilitary connections??”

    I haven’t a clue, and I’m not sure what you mean by “paramiliary connections”.

    Are PIRA/CIRA/INLA/RIRA members banned from the GAA, Celtic Supporters Clubs or Republic Of Ireland Supporters Clubs?

    Would you ever find a Republican Flute Band, named after paramilitary members, playing at a function in a Celtic Supporters Club or a GAA Clubhouse?

    What are your thoughts on these things, if they were happening?