MTV plans to go where BBC feared to tread

MTV Germany is planning to pilot the banned Popetown.

The BBC who commissioned the cartoon, written by many of Britiain’s leading comedy writers, refused to show it because it might offend Catholics (although offence didn’t stop them showing the Jerry Springer Opera). The Roman Catholic Church in Bavaria has decided to follow the lead of Scient’logy and Islam by demanding the cartoon not be shown and has gone to court to stop it.

  • Siochan

    As a Catholic I’m not in the least bit offended by this. As a human being I’m extremely insulted by this kind of senseless crap. The concept for this cartoon is just stupid. The only humor these people seem to generate is infintile, ignorant, and frankly a bit uninspired. oh well, I guess its just the unpleasent side effect of free speech.

  • Orange Yank

    “As a Catholic I’m not in the least bit offended by this.”

    Really? I come from a long line of presbyterians and even I am a bit offended by this stuff. Its sad that trash like this is considered new worthy. It was written by idiots and it will probably be watched by idiots. No big deal.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Orange Yank: “Really? I come from a long line of presbyterians and even I am a bit offended by this stuff. Its sad that trash like this is considered new worthy. It was written by idiots and it will probably be watched by idiots. No big deal. ”

    One problem… the idiots.

  • PaddyCanuck

    Senseless and Infintile humour is the best….

    Case in point (from spitting image):

    Geoffrey Howe and Leon Brittan are standing at the men’s urinal in a single sex toilet and Margaret Thatcher walks in and goes to the toilet next to them standing up. After she leaves Howe turns to Brittan and confides: “I can never go when she’s in here.”

    I know of a good surgeon, who can reverse your sense of humour bypass. If you need a referral, let me know.

  • TAFKABO

    Amazing that some can judge the cartoon and it’s audience before they have even seen an episode.
    Not a little reminiscent of those who judged the cartoons of Mohamed.

    If it turns out that the cartoon is crap, then so be it, but at least let’s see it first.

  • Conor Gillespie

    TAFKABO,
    “Amazing that some can judge the cartoon and it’s audience before they have even seen an episode.”

    Ummmm, one of the central jokes of the series is that the Pope rides a pogo-stick. Yah, this is total crap. No one but a comedian should be offended by this garbage.

  • TAFKABO

    Imagine if the same reaction met father Ted before an episode had aired?
    Think what a fantastic show we would have missed.

    What’s the difference between the Pope on a pogo and kicking father Brennan up the arse?

  • TAFKABO

    That should read Bishop Brennan of course…..

  • Conor Gillespie

    “What’s the difference between the Pope on a pogo and kicking father Brennan up the arse?”

    LOL (: I’d forgotten that episode.

  • siochan

    “What’s the difference between the Pope on a pogo and kicking father Brennan up the arse?”

    Kicking an authority figure up the arse is a standard and fairly recognizable form of slapstick humor. The Pope riding about on a pogo-stick is just stupid.

  • Jack-in-the-box

    I’ve foun that by and large most stuff that is banned or made a fuss over because of it’s controversy often turns out to be utter crap when you remove that element from the picture! Examples:
    1) The Muhamud cartoons –none of them were all that funny at all! The only joke that I could ee was ‘a lot of muslims are terrorists.’ The Beano makes funnier jokes than whoever drew up that crap!

    2) The Passion –once stripped of its controversy this film was a piece of garbage! And can someone tell me why the Romans are speaking Litergical latin? Surely the language of the Roman Catholic Church(which is significantly different from classical latin in certain points of grammer and pronunciation) wasn’t being spoken at this time!

    3) This show will probably foot the bill for number 3! Its website is centered around the fact that it was too controversial to be shown on tv rather than the actual content of the show. destined to be nothing more than bollocks! (:

  • As a Protestant & a member of the Anglican Church,
    I actually enjoyed watching ‘Popetown’ when it was being shown over here in New Zealand.I got a real laugh,considering that the Romish false ‘church’ are a pack of bigoted racists,hypocrites,& supporters of Sinn Fein/I.R.A. terrorism.

    As I am also a supporter of the Rt. Hon. & Rt. Rev. Dr. Ian Paisley,P.C.,I thought that it was about time that the Pope of Rome was made fun of considering that the current one is an ex-Hitler Youth member.

  • TAFKABO

    1) The Muhamud cartoons –none of them were all that funny at all!

    I don’t think they were meant to be that funny, the intent was more satirical.

    The only joke that I could ee was ‘a lot of muslims are terrorists.’

    And after viewing all the cartoons that’s one joke I never saw at all.

    The Beano makes funnier jokes than whoever drew up that crap!

    Each to their own I guess.

    This show will probably foot the bill for number 3! Its website is centered around the fact that it was too controversial to be shown on tv rather than the actual content of the show. destined to be nothing more than bollocks! (:

    It may well be a lot of bollocks, but that’s neither here nor there.
    And if I was them I’d milk the fact it was banned for all it was worth.
    Which brings us back to father ted and the episode in which the ripped the piss out of the church when it tries to ban or condemn poular culture,and ends up giving it more publicity than it could ever have hoped for.

    If this show had simply been allowed to air then it would have stood or fallen on its own merits.
    If it was crap, then it would have sunk, and deservedly so, but if it turned out to be on the same level as father Ted, it would have stayed the distance, and deservedly so.

    But now it’s going to get an audience, regardless.

    They must be on their knees thanking the church.

    Now that’s what I call irony.

  • Conor Gillespie

    “I got a real laugh,considering that the Romish false ‘church’ are a pack of bigoted racists,hypocrites,& supporters of Sinn Fein/I.R.A. terrorism.”

    That’s funny, because I got a real laugh considering that your post was the most ‘bigoted’ and ‘hyppocritical’ trash I have read in months.(:

  • Well,Conor,at least I don’t go around abusing children,which is what Taig priests are very good at.

    As to that episode of ‘Father Ted’,I saw that one too.Perhaps someone should do a spoof called ‘Kicking the Pope of Rome in the bollocks’ as opposed to ‘Kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse’.What do you think?

    Aidan.

  • Garden Centre Protestant Without a Garden

    Aidan Work,

    Have a nice life New Zealender and I hope that your friend the Rt. Hon. & Rt. Rev. Dr. Ian Paisley,P.C. continues to lead you down the path to a fuller realization of the abounding tolerance and wisdom that you have displayed here on this thread. Really man, with views as uneducated and intollerant as yours Its a wonder you didn’t join up with the Hitler youth yourself. (:

  • Conor Mac Giolla Easpuig

    Aiden,

    My my my, more hateful banter from someone who wasn’t even born in Northern Ireland! Maybe you should talk to the lads over in Boston. Really Aiden, Its nice to see that you’ve carved an ethnic identity for yourself over there in Wanganui, New Zealand. I suppose you’ve even purchased a UVF post card or some such from the Northern Ireland Tourist Office(: Really, I think I can speak for the vast majority of posters on this website, both Catholic and Protestant, when I tell you that we’ve had enough hateful intolerance for the last 30 years to last a lifetime and the last thing any of us want is to hear more of it from people like you. As GCPWAG above so eloquently put it, “Have a nice life New Zealander” (:

  • TAFKABO

    Don’t feed the trolls.

  • Conor Mac Giolla Easpuig

    Thanks TAFKABO,

    And to think, I was just getting ready to criticize ole Jackin-the-box about his ridiculous post when this bigot came along.

    P.S. Jack-in-the-box Do you consider Ulysses to be a part of your list? I Sure hope Not. (:

  • TAFKABO

    Tho I could have made a joke about this Protestant Works ethics…..

    I’ll get me coat

  • Garden Centre Protestant without a Garden

    Has anyone clicked the link on Aidan’s name? It leads to a personal website where he provides readers with a speech that he’s witten in which he states that:
    “The Union Jack represents the unity in diversity that we believe in.I do not want our troubled Dominion to be like a cross between Ulster & Rhodesia – a bloodbath. We all have a duty to look after one another.God bless you all” WOW! This guy is either a major hypocritical bigot or a troll.

  • Garden Centre Protestant without a Garden

    TAFKABO,
    “Don’t feed the trolls.”

    sorry Taf, I didn’t see your post before I made mine. Will DO (:

  • How come Aidan has a Fenian name? His famous speech seems to be as pathetic as this atempt at humour. For true Fenian humour, one should check out the late Dave Allen. Now there was a funny guy. Also, the late Breandan O Heithirs skit about WT Consgrave visiting Il Papa (Lig sin i gcathu, lead us into temptation) was witty. But a Pope on a Pogo stick? Why insult the Beano by comparing the illustrious publication to it?
    More generally, as in shows like South Park, relgious groups have to be careful as they make easy targets.

  • Siochan

    Taigs,
    “How come Aidan has a Fenian name?”

    LOL (:

    surely you mean a Gaelic name correct? Anyway, I’d noticed that myself about our friendly New Zealand bigot. looks like fate has tossed him a wee bit of green whether he knew it or not!?

  • Siochan: Best to call it a Fenian name out of respect for Aodhan’s Taigish phobias.
    Shalom.

  • Rafa Benitez

    “Here in New Zealand, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a partner. In my case, I am a very learned man, but no-one would want me, because I am naturally a very shy guy, plus I don’t have full-time employment. Does anyone else share my experience?
    Aidan Work, Wellington, New Zealand”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4806030.stm

    He is also renowned on other sites for his views on Catholics being sub-human. A fine ambassador for the British Commonwealth in my view 😉

  • Brian Boru

    As someone of Catholic upbringing who ticked “No religion” in the recent Census, I feel that something like this might wake the Vatican up to the need to drag itself into the 21st century – that’s if they can drag themselves into the 20th century first by accepting women priests, contraception, married priests, that homosexuals are not “disordered”, and accepting that civil law should hold precedence over canon law when dealing with abusing priests. Until then I say the Vatican deserves this!

  • Henry94

    The Roman Catholic Church in Bavaria has decided to follow the lead of Scient’logy and Islam by demanding the cartoon not be shown and has gone to court to stop it.

    Is that what Islam did? went to court? They must have fantastic lawyers because everybody is afraid to show those particualr cartoons now.

    Thanks for telling us so much about yourself.

  • fair_deal

    henry94

    The lead referred to demanding something they find offensive “not be shown” (probably should have used a few commas but punctuation is not my strong point)

    “Thanks for telling us so much about yourself.”

    Huh?

  • Henry94

    fd

    So in your view should Ian Paisley’s objections to Sunday rugby and line dancing also be associated with Islamic murder and mayhem?

    The right to object is part of the right to free speech. Associating legitimate objections with Islamofascist reaction to the Danish cartoon is ludicrous.

    It shouldn’t even be necessary to make such a basic point.

  • Gerry Lvs Castro

    ”I feel that something like this might wake the Vatican up to the need to drag itself into the 21st century”

    I very much doubt that will ever happen Brian, and if it does, it won’t be because of a few crap cartoons by British comedians. Other than ‘The Office’, have any recent British comedians come up with anything as amusing as say Iain-Duncan Smith wanting to be PM?
    Father Ted was hilariously on the money regarding the RC church, but the edifice still stands. The geriatrics in the vatican will only modernise when their flocks vote with their feet, rather than the current cop-out of trooping to mass every Sunday and then breaking all the rules the rest of the week. If you want to be in the club, you play by the rules, or go elsewhere.
    As regards religious humour generally, all beliefs should be fair game for a laugh. For me there’s nothing funnier than some po-faced fundamentalist foaming at the mouth because his particular delusion is being ridiculed. More of this sort of thing!
    Careful now.

  • fair_deal

    Henry

    I am afraid you are reading much more than is intended to be there and trying to make a comparisons I never made or raised.

    Four religious groups were mentioned not two in my thread intro. The common thread was all four demanding something they find offensive be banned. I made no mention of what tactics the other three have used to try and get their bans only the group that directly related to the story.

    “The right to object is part of the right to free speech.”

    Saying “I object to this being shown as it offends my religious beliefs” is the exercise of free speech. Saying “I demand it be banned because it offends me” is an attempt to prevent free speech.

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    Saying “I object to this being shown as it offends my religious beliefs” is the exercise of free speech. Saying “I demand it be banned because it offends me” is an attempt to prevent free speech.

    No in fact both are free speech. You don’t get the concept.

  • fair_deal

    Both can be said under free speech. However, you confuse what is said and what is the aim. The aim of the second is to limit free speech.

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    fair_deal

    If I object to what you say or demand that you stop saying it or demand that Mick ban you that’s all free speech.

    If I issue a death threat against you i would expect to be banned from Slugger. Can you see the difference.

    If you insist on trying to defend the ludicrous proposition that the peaceful democratic (and certainly ineffective) objections to Popetown are akin to the violent, anti-democratic (and certainly effective) objections to the Muslim cartoons then I won’t waste further time on you.

  • fair_deal

    “If you insist on trying to defend the ludicrous proposition ”

    I don’t defend it because I never made it.

  • Henry94

    fd

    I don’t defend it because I never made it.

    No?

    The Roman Catholic Church in Bavaria has decided to follow the lead of Scient’logy and Islam

  • fair_deal

    Finish the line “by demanding the cartoon not be shown” that is the sole linkage I draw.

    I realise from your comments on another thread that the Danish cartoons issue is one you take very seriously and has impacted on your attitudes to freedoms. However, you are reading an implication that was not intended to be there and in my opinion isn’t there.

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    Do you accept that the Catholic Church in Bavaria were not following a lead from Islam?

    Do you accept the fact that Catholic objections to popetowm pre-date the Danish cartoon issue and are of an objectively different nature.

    If so you should withdraw what you said. In particular if it is conveying a meaning you did not intend.

  • Shuggie McSporran

    “Do you accept the fact that Catholic objections…are of an objectively different nature”

    What in your opinion is the difference?

    Both the Catholic Church in Bavaria and the Muslim leaders in Denmark objected to the ridicule of their religion.

    If islamic extremists swing into death threat mode it doesn’t change the fact that the nature of the objections are objectivlely the same.

    It’s a fair comparison for fair_deal to make, so it is.

  • TAFKABO

    Bollox.

    There’s a whole world of difference between pointing out that you are offended, and threatening people with death for offending you.

  • Shuggie McSporran

    “Bollox.”

    Sorry mate, but it’s you yourself that’s talking bollocks, quite simply.

    There is no difference between objecting to a cartoon because it offends your religious sensibilities and objecting to a cartoon because it offends your religious sensibilities.

  • fair_deal

    henry

    The Christian groups, S’logy, Islam and RC church have all called for something they found offensive to be banned.

    Have these four groups campaigned for the ban in the same ways? No and I never said they did.

    Have the Christian Groups, S’logy, RC adopted the violent tactics of many islamic groups to achieve a ban? No and I never said they did.

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    Why not just answer honestly?

    Do you accept that the Catholic Church in Bavaria were not following a lead from Islam?

    Do you accept the fact that Catholic objections to popetowm pre-date the Danish cartoon issue?

    You got it wrong. It happens to us all from time to time. The character test is in how you deal with it.

  • Siochan

    “Sorry mate, but it’s you yourself that’s talking bollocks, quite simply.

    There is no difference between objecting to a cartoon because it offends your religious sensibilities and objecting to a cartoon because it offends your religious sensibilities. ”

    Quite posibley the most blindly ridiculous thing I have ever seen on Slugger. And when I say that I mean it in the literal sense of the word. i.e. your post is worthy of ridicule.The difference IS the “gowing into death mode” as you put it. Protestants have called for a ban on sunday football haven’t they? Do I find this comparable to islamic reactions to the Dannish Cartoons? NO!

  • fair_deal

    Your “character” test seems to involve changing the test.

    First it was claiming I equated the RC church going to court with islamic groups involved in violence. Second it was whether I subscribed to your interpretation of free speech. Now who began demanding censorship first.

    In terms of timing, the Danish cartoons were I understand published in September 2005. There are no exact dates in the BBC story linked above but it is not a historical one but topical news item put on the website yesterday. There is no indication in the RC church in bavaria lodging objections or legal proceedings before september 2005. MTV Germany’s announcement to show it and legal attempts to stop it by the RC church in bavaria were after September 05 and almost certainly in the last week.

  • Shuggie McSporran

    Henry94,

    “You got it wrong”

    He didn’t get it wrong, you’ve got it wrong. The Catholics in Bavaria launched legal proceedings to stop the cartoon being aired on 26th April, a couple of days ago.

    Siochan

    “your post is worthy of ridicule”

    No, you are being ridiculous.

    You totally miss the obvious point I was making and then inadvertently end up agreeing with it.

  • Henry94

    The Popetown contoversy dates bay to the commissioning of the program by the BBC in 2002!

    Catholics objected then, they objected in New Zeland and they object in Bavaria.

    No honest person could claim The Roman Catholic Church in Bavaria has decided to follow the lead of Scient’logy and Islam.

    The example, if you need one, was other Catholics and peaceful protest.

    You are wrong in your facts. It’s as simpple as that.

    Siochan

    Quite posibley the most blindly ridiculous thing I have ever seen on Slugger.

    I agree.

  • The name ‘Aidan’ is actually a Scots name,not Irish! It means ‘little fiery one’.It is derived from the Anglo-Saxon ‘Alden’,which means ‘old wise protector’.

    That quotation from my speech is in reference to the fact that Sinn Fein/I.R.A. have been engaging in the most barbaric acts against the Protestant majority in Ulster & against the Protestant minority in the Romish rebel pirate state that is the Republic of Ireland.It is also making a reference that Z.A.N.U.-P.F. began their campaign of mass murder in the late 1960’s against the people of what was then the rebel British colony of Rhodesia,& is still continuing today under Robert Mugabe’s insane regime in Zimbabwe.

    The British Commonwealth,is,after all,a multi-ethnic organisation,a concept that the citizens of the Romish rebel pirate state just don’t understand at all.

  • Garden Centre Protestant Without a Garden

    New Zealand Bigot,
    “Romish rebel pirate state”

    Get a grip man. To call the RoI a rebel state illustrates your clear disrespect for democracy. I’m a protestant unionist and I think your an ignorant pig. as I’m afraid would most honest citizens of your beloved commonwealth.

  • Conor Gillespie

    GCPWG,
    Don’t waste time with him GCPWG, scum like him are just a waste of bandwidth.

    Aiden,

    Sorry chap, there no hope for you: you’re an idiot. Aiden comes from the Irish Gaelic word “aedh” which you correctly translated as “fire!” There was a Scottish king of Argyll with the name but if you did some proper research, you’d know exactly where his lineage stemmed from. The only Saxon equivalent is not even “alden” at all but rather Aeðan which by the way is not of Germanic origin but rather a translation of a welsh equivalent. Nice try though, too bad you don’t seem to know your shit from your oatmeal (:

  • Siochan

    Hey Aidan [or should it be Áedán?!] Conors bang on chap “You dont know your shit from your oatmeal” LOL. If you have any REAL intellectuall curiosity at all I suggest you type in the following into Google: “the name Aidan”

    don’t give me a reply untill yu’ve done the above. (:

    The truth might be difficult to swollow but its definatley there. Any Way Áedán, looks like you’re one of us now eh, Conas tá tú?

    P.S. What do you think of the UVF mate? or does their publicity not reach New Zealand?

  • Garden Centre Protestant Without a Garden

    Siochan,

    I checked out Aidan on Google for an entire page of results and with the exception of one really suspect website that said it was “of hebrew origin meaning sensual” They all gave me the same response: Origin–Irish Gaelic!

  • The Wanderings of Oisin

    Aidan,
    “The name ‘Aidan’ is actually a Scots name,not Irish! It means ‘little fiery one’.It is derived from the Anglo-Saxon ‘Alden’,which means ‘old wise protector’. ”

    Sorry chap, the Gaelic word for ‘little fiery one’ isn’t derived from the anglo-saxon word for ‘old wise protector.’ Nice try though! But please, please, please, help me work out my name, its Oisin, I think its Scots but I’m not quite sure. My friends tell me its derived from the Anglo-saxon word Wyrm meaning dragon but I’m not sure there telling me the truth. Maybe you can fill me in huh? How about it? (:

  • Conor Gillespie

    The Wanderings of Oisin,

    LMAO! Amazing post! (:

    P.S. Aidan, i again ask you, what do you think of the UVF?

  • Garden Centre Protestant Without a Garden,
    There is nothing wrong with referring to the Republic of Ireland as the ‘Romish rebel pirate state’ at all.After all,Sinn Fein/I.R.A. are still
    terrorists & liars,& Gerry Adams is as insane as Robert Mugabe the Zimbabwean nutcase dictator.

    To say that I’m an ignorant pig is wrong.I am a supporter of the Rt. Hon. & Rt. Rev. Dr. Ian Paisley,P.C..Did you know that he is the only politician in Ulster who has kept true to his principles? Personally,I reckon that Ian Paisley should have been made a hereditary Lord years ago!

    The Romish rebel pirate state is the pot calling the kettle black,as the Protestant minority there have been subject to some very dispicable Britanniphobic policies,yet the Irish Government claims that the British are brutal rulers.If it hadn’t been for the English (British after 1707),
    there wouldn’t be an Ireland,as the Irish would still be fighting among themselves.

    As for both the British & Irish Governments making concessions to Sinn Fein/I.R.A.,it is dispicable.Sinn Fein/I.R.A. should be proscribed & expelled from all the British Parliaments,or better still,rounded up & shot.If Sinn Fein/I.R.A. wants to be in government,they should suck up to the Dail in Dublin.Only a D.U.P.-led Unionist coalition government in Ulster
    is acceptable,with Ian Paisley as Prime Minister of Ulster,or better still,Governor of Ulster!

    There can be no peace process while Gerry Adams & his fellow untermenschen (subhumans) are allowed to remain unpunished.As for the Taig cult,they’re Hell-bound anyway!

  • Conor Mac Giolla Easpuig

    Hey Aiden,

    To say that I’m an ignorant pig is wrong.I am a supporter of the Rt. Hon. & Rt. Rev. Dr. Ian Paisley,P.C..Did you know that he is the only politician in Ulster who has kept true to his principles? Personally,I reckon that Ian Paisley should have been made a hereditary Lord years ago!

    Ha! LOL this is the best post ever. after claiming that “to say i’m an ignorant pig is wrong” without defending his positions AT ALL he goes on to show that, far from being a sheep he’s just a brainless sheep. Anyway, I have a feeling that even paisley himself would find you repugnant Áedán. However, You still have not answered my question. What do you think of the UVF pal, do you support them? Are you even aware that there are terrorist activities on both sides of the coin?

    P.S. Have you checked up on your gaelic heritage yet Áedán?

  • Oranges and Lemons

    “The Romish rebel pirate state is the pot calling the kettle black,as the Protestant minority there have been subject to some very dispicable Britanniphobic policies,yet the Irish Government claims that the British are brutal rulers.If it hadn’t been for the English (British after 1707), there wouldn’t be an Ireland,as the Irish would still be fighting among themselves.”

    aidan, your from new Zealand, your not really british at all, your not welcome on this thread by either protestants or catholics. We’ve made peace with eachother after thirty years of sensless sensless violence. so as far as we’re concerned, you can go back to opressing the Maoris or what ever it is BNP henchmen like yourself do over there. Whos with me?

  • Siochan

    “untermenschen (subhumans)”

    Looks like you WERE in the Hilter youth old chum. Or maybe its just catholics you believe are hell bound. surely by your standerds Jews, Muslims, and anyone else who isn’t a protestant is destined for the same fate am I correct? If your going to be a hateful bigot, go the whole nine yards pal.

    Oranges and Lemons,
    I’ll second that! but first I’d like to hear what Aidan thinks about the UVF. He still has answered the question. (:

  • Conor Gillespie

    Siochan,

    Thanks pal, maybe if enough people ask him he’ll check out a wikipedia article or something and discover that there are terrorists on both sides of the divide.

    O+L,
    I’ll give my vote, but I think all that you really need to do is ignore him and he’ll wander back into greener pastures of hate websites and BNP pamphlets.cheers all (: He’s obviously a troll. (and when I use the word troll I mean it in the classical sense of the word) (:

  • Garden Centre Protestant Without a Garden

    Aidan,
    “As for the Taig cult,they’re Hell-bound anyway!”

    Wheres a moderator when you need one?

    Oranges and Lemons,
    You can have my vote orangey! (:

  • fair_deal

    Henry94

    The penny has dropped with me. I see where you are going with this now, you are going on about the sidelinks on the story I linked

    The Most Rev Vincent Nichols objected in 2003 to three programmes including Popetown (before it was even written). However, I see nowhere in his comments him calling for a ban unlike the church in Bavaria.

    Archbishop Conti also makes a similar attack about the BBC. Again, I see nowhere in his comments him calling for a ban unlike the church in Bavaria.

    The Church in England and Scotland used its right of free speech to outline the offensiveness of Popetown. However the Bavarian Chruch went a step further that they did by directly seeking a ban enforced by a third party.

  • Siochan

    Aidan,
    “As for the Taig cult,they’re Hell-bound anyway!”

    GCPWAG,
    “Wheres a moderator when you need one? ”

    I’ll also second that. This kind of hatefull ooze is the last thing we need here

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    Nonsence again. Taking a court case against MTV is part of a democratic response just as appealing to the BBC is.

    One is a private company and the other public so the difference of approach is perfectly legitimate.

    Neither has anything to do with the Muslim cartoon riots and can in no way be said to be taking a lead from them.

    And the fact that the South Park episode the scientologists objected to was withdrawn after protests and not a court case shows your latest squirm doesn’t even make sense in its own terms.

  • The Wanderings of Oisin

    Fair_Deal, Henry94,

    You are both missing out on all the fun (:

    Haven’t you noticed that ever since the advent of Aidan Wouk this thread has developed into a fantastic tangent discussion? I suggest you temporarily put aside your differences and give it a go at the old troll bashing session!

  • fair_deal

    My 9.52 already dealt with these points. Here it is again for you

    “Have these four groups campaigned for the ban in the same ways? No and I never said they did.

    Have the Christian Groups, S’logy, RC adopted the violent tactics of many islamic groups to achieve a ban? No and I never said they did.”

    By your approach to this thread if I talked about the Bloc Quebecois, the Scottish National Party and Sinn Fein wanting seperation from the state then I am claiming that all three have used the same tactics to achieve that and have accused the SNP and BQ of endorsing terror. When what connects them is what they want to achieve NOT there tactics.

  • Loyalist

    The funny thing about Father Ted was that it was rooted in reality. There are literally thousands of Mrs. Doyle’s – we’ve all met them. Similarly hypocrisy in the church surrounding the issue of contraception and other issues was tackled in a funny way – from what people are saying about this it just sounds like another crap South Park-style show which is made slightly more offensive by the fact that the main characters are in ecclessiastical attire.

    On the subject of the Papacy, I am reading Peter de Rossa’s book at the minute: “Vicars of Christ”, does anyone have an opinion on this?

  • Conor Mac Giolla Easpuig

    “Similarly hypocrisy in the church surrounding the issue of contraception and other issues was tackled in a funny way”

    Did any one see the episode where Ted thinks Brennens going to send him to a savage missionary and he has an imaginary conversation with a group of canibals who criticize the church for not realizing that this is the 20th century (er, 21st now I guess but a time of filming 20th)

  • Henry94

    fair_deal

    if I talked about the Bloc Quebecois, the Scottish National Party and Sinn Fein wanting seperation from the state then I am claiming that all three have used the same tactics to achieve that and have accused the SNP and BQ of endorsing terror.

    Again on your own terms

    If you accused the SNP of following the lead of the IRA then people would laugh at you and see it as a piece of propaganda and an attempt to link the SNP to the IRA.

    Try this

    The Orange Order in Belfast has decided to follow the lead of the Nazis and the Klan by marching.

    The all marched didn’t they?

  • Oranges and Lemons

    Rafa,

    He’s also been banned on wikipedia for inciting hatred toward homosexuals and catholics. This guy realy must be made of pure ignorance.

  • fair_deal

    Henry

    Aim and approach are two different things.

  • bag’oshite

    i’m a roman catholic and wouldnt find popetown offensive. comedy should have no boundries. bill hicks said it best, the last thing christ wants to see on his return to earth is a crucifix around someones neck.

  • bag’oshite

    i seen mentioned the cartoons of mohammed. i did see the offensiveness not to me but muslims. but i have to say after my capital(dublin) was threatened i see all muslims as fair game now

  • Rafa Benitez

    Aidan
    “If it hadn’t been for the English (British after 1707),
    there wouldn’t be an Ireland,as the Irish would still be fighting among themselves.”

    That’s right aidan, we’d still be clubing each other with sticks.

    Let’s put a little perspective on this. Here is an example of Irish civilisation in the form of the Brehon laws (it’s on a Catholic website, so you might go to hell if you open the link):
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02753a.htm

    And here’s an example of English civilisation, in the form of Edward Longshanks ethnically cleansing the Jews from England:
    http://www.heretical.com/British/nsv14-4.html

    So out of those two examples, which civilisation appears more barbaric?
    The answer should be neither as it’s all about perspective. (I just used them to twist your melon man)

  • Doot

    Aidan,

    have you written to your hero?

    What was his response?

  • Shuggie McSporran

    Henry94

    “Quite posibley the most blindly ridiculous thing I have ever seen on Slugger”.

    Hardly as ridiculous as your claim that catholic objections to cartoons offensive to catholicism are “objectively different” in nature than muslim objections to cartoons offensive to islam.

    I mean, how exactly do you arrive at that conclusion? It’s completely incoherent. WTF is the difference?

    Both the catholics and the muslims object to cartoons and want them stopped.

    (don’t changethe subject by referring to the violence of certain islamic extremists in the aftermath of the original objections to the Danish cartoons – it’s 100% irrelevant to the nature of the objections).

    BTW I have noted your reluctance to actually answer my previous questions.

    You are the one who is ridiculous. Good day to you sir.

  • ecce romani

    This is a heavy one but my opinion is:

    1. Dont get offended by cartoons as blasphemy is in the eye of the holder.

    2. as a catholic i really dont care if somebody shows a shite (or funny cartoon about my religion as its up to them)

    3 At the end of the day father Ted was brilliantly funny and poked fun rather than ridiculed.

  • Oranges & Lemons,just because I am from New Zealand doesn’t mean that you can say I’m not entitled to express an opinion.I saw that ‘Popetown’,& had a really good laugh! Do you know why? The Taig cult over here are just as bad as its branches in Aussie,America,&,of course,the Romish rebel pirate state (Republic of Ireland).

    You have had the cheek to say that Ulster is really at peace.That goes to show how extremely gullible you really are! Ulster will only get true
    peace once Sinn Fein/I.R.A. are expelled from all the British Parliaments,& their leaders,Gerry Adams & Martin McGuinness are put to death! That is what they should have been given years ago!

    God Save The Queen! No Pope of Rome! Remember 1690! The Pope of Rome is the Antichrist!

  • Morgan Le Fay

    “God Save The Queen! No Pope of Rome! Remember 1690! The Pope of Rome is the Antichrist!”

    keep quite aidan or we’ll tell the queen on ye! (;

    (You do know that HM, like all decent britons and pretty much all of the posters on this site, hates the guts of anti-catholic, bigoted scum like you right(:

  • Conor Gillespie

    Wow, is this thread still going?
    Morgan,
    Every single poster on this thread thinks Aidan is nothing more than bigoted subbhuman scum(: If he posts again, just ignore him like the rest of us have and he’ll go away. give a troll a biscuit and he’ll come lumbering back for seconds. Ignore him completley and he’s liable to just sit there by himself picking his nose in waganui New Zealand and wondering why the ‘taigish cult’ haven’t responded to his pro-UVF garbage. (:

  • missfitz

    Pretty scary stuff though Conor. I hate seeing such naked bigotry and ignorance, although I dont feed trolls myself.

  • Donnacha

    I’ve just discovered this thread and have to say I’m amazed. Aidan is NOT a troll. He’s for real. Doesn’t live in Wnaganui anymore eityher, last I heard. He legged it to Wellington for fear of the big, bad Maoris in Wanganui. Such bravery, perhaps a medal? A mention in despatches at least, I feel. Ignore him, for he is deficient in most arenas, and even managed to get chucked out of Wikipedia for repeatedly making virulent anti-gay, anti-irish and anti-Catholic statements as well as personal attacks. I think he’s still pissed off that there is a relentless move towards becoming a republic here in Aotearo?New Zealand and still upset, I believe, that no one has ever taken seriously his claim to be a “constituional ally” whatever TF that is, to former Governor-General Sir Michael-Hardy Boys. He’s a loser, maybe I’ll look him up and see if he fancies a pint. I’ll let you know if I’m successful.

  • Donnacha

    Oh, and by the way, as regards his name, he was born a Catholic, or so he has claimed, although I imagine the catechism would be beyond him. It’s certainly beyond me.