Rangers fans cleared of bigotry

In a remarkable fudge, UEFA have cleared Rangers fans of bigotry. They’re not saying the incidents in Spain didn’t happen – just that they can’t discipline the club because such behaviour is tolerated in Scotland! More on UEFA’s explanation here and here.

The club were, however, fined £9,000 after their supporters smashed a window on the opposition’s team bus.

  • Keith M

    Given the rascist chanting which is commonplace in Spanish football this is little more than a storm in a teacup.

  • JK

    ‘Given this social and historical context, the Control & Disciplinary Body said it considered that UEFA cannot demand an end to behaviour which has been tolerated for years.’

    Bizarre decision by UEFA. Would they use the above reasoning if it was racist chanting? I very much doubt it!

    UEFA are big on talk, small on action

  • from UEFA’s own statement:

    “Given this social and historical context, the Control & Disciplinary Body said it considered that UEFA cannot demand an end to behaviour which has been tolerated for years.”

    That’s a complete cop-out.
    So if your FA tolerates racist and sectarian chants or even lobbing he odd bottle at the ref, don’t worry about getting punished abroad when you do same thing?!

    The Scottish FA have been ineffective in tackling the Old Firm bigots, this was the perfect opportunity for UEFA to take a moral lead and once again they’ve bottled it.

  • Intelligence Insider

    In a remarkable fudge, UEFA have failed to charge Celtic fans with bigotry……………..

  • J Kelly

    II maybe thats because UEFA have never felt the need to. In 2003 Celtic supporters travelled all over Europe. Culminating in 80000 fans invading Seville and not one arrest. For the first time ever EUFA presented fans with their coveted fair play award for their outstanding behaviour during that season. The Irish Glasgow Celtic connection is not at all sectarian or dominating.

    Let the people sing their stories and songs….

  • J Kelly,

    “Culminating in 80000 fans invading Seville and not one arrest”

    Not 100% accurate I’m afraid.
    http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2003/05/21/story99744.asp
    One fan was arrested for stabbing another fan in the city centre and the police reported “a handful” of other arrests.

    Regarding the original post, apparently now in a bizarre twist, UEFA are going to appeal against their own disclipinary committee’s decision!

  • Yokel

    As much as I don’t follow Scottish football particularly, cos its largely crap I think your idea that the Irish Celtic connection is neither sectarian or dominating by some video that surfaced a few months back of people singing their songs and including chants of IRA etc..not intimidating at all. But sure if a mob stood outside your car shouting UDA I’m sure it would be perfectly acceptable. Is it every fan? No but its there, just as its thee with Rangers or else the club wouldnt have its anti-sectarian campaign if there wasn’t a problem or maybe Bhoys Against Bigotry is actually bollocks and the club are wrong.

    Bless you, we all need our robots.

  • Yokel

    There are words missing in that post, namely ‘your assertion that’

  • Realist

    “Culminating in 80000 fans invading Seville”

    Was it not 800,000? 🙂

  • JK

    ‘In a remarkable fudge, UEFA have failed to charge Celtic fans with bigotry…………….. ‘

    In a remarkable post, Intelligence Insider goes for the classic bout of whataboutery

  • Keith M

    Realist “Was it not 800,000? 🙂 ”

    No, I think you’ll find that was The Moors.

  • Ard Mhaca Jim

    Rangers fans are biggots?? Well fuck me, who would have thought that! Although a lot of them are combat 18/loyalist paramilitary supporting scumbags i would never have thought that they would abuse fans of the opposing football team.

  • smcgiff

    Is it cause I is a ranger’s fan I can be racist?

  • Rory

    Never mind. Rangers have also been found not guilty of demonstrating any worthwhile footballing prowess recently either.

  • Roger

    As racist abuse is perfectly acceptable in the Spanish League they’d be hypocritical to object to sectarian abuse.

  • Realist

    “Rangers fans are biggots?? Well fuck me, who would have thought that! Although a lot of them are combat 18/loyalist paramilitary supporting scumbags i would never have thought that they would abuse fans of the opposing football team.”

    All one way is it Jim?

  • TAFKABO

    I’m a Rangers fan.

    f*ck Y’all.

    ;-p

  • stix

    Aye, I see Irish?British heehee tolerance is alive and well. At least Scottish football attracts reasonable attention throughout Europe. By the sound of things most of yi’s are full of sh**, suppose it’s better than bullets or bombs, hmm I wonder…..

  • yir maw

    ‘Aye, I see Irish?British heehee tolerance is alive and well. At least Scottish football attracts reasonable attention throughout Europe. By the sound of things most of yi’s are full of sh**, suppose it’s better than bullets or bombs, hmm I wonder…..’

    Oh aye I see plenty Irish teams [north and south] competing in any footie competition of note. Why don’t you lot go support a local irish team or something like that, you know it makes sense… keeps you monkeys from filling up the ferries every week with yir shite….

  • Dread Cthulhu

    TAFKABO: “I’m a Rangers fan.

    f*ck Y’all. ”

    There you have it, folks… another eloquent rebuttal. What the encore, a rousing rendition of the “Billy Boys?”

    http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/wjmc/billyboy.shtml

  • TAFKABO

    Obviously a tad too subtle for you Dread Cthulhu.

    Take a look again, I said f*ck Y’all, not f*ck this specific group based on religion, or that specific group based upon ethnicity.

    No, it was f*ck Y’all, and it was but my little contribution to engender a feeling of unity and solidarity amongst our diverse contributors.

    P.S.

    Glad to see that the sense of humour bypass was a complete success.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    TAFKABO: “Obviously a tad too subtle for you Dread Cthulhu. ”

    Really… lemee see if I can wrap my mind about your “sophisticated humor…” You proclaim yourself a Rangers fan, issue a vulger Anglo-Saxonism directed at the posters present and throw an ANSI smiley face at the end…

    In the immortal words of Bill Cosby, “Riiiiiight.”

    TAFKABO: “Take a look again, I said f*ck Y’all, not f*ck this specific group based on religion, or that specific group based upon ethnicity.”

    And I never accused you of sectarianism or bigotry, now did I? All I did was comment on your “eloquent rebuttal. Why bring these issues up, TAFKABO? Guilty conscience?

    TAFKABO: “No, it was f*ck Y’all, and it was but my little contribution to engender a feeling of unity and solidarity amongst our diverse contributors.”

    Now if that isn’t just a load of jet-wash. How long are you planning on having this juvenile fascination with the Anglo-Saxon vulgarities of the English language?

  • TAFKABO

    How long are you planning on having this juvenile fascination with the Anglo-Saxon vulgarities of the English language?

    That’s the way I talk a lot of the time.Who the f*ck appointed you arbiter of how I, or anyone else should express themselves?
    Don’t be such a selfrighteous twat.

    And I never accused you of sectarianism or bigotry, now did I? All I did was comment on your “eloquent rebuttal. Why bring these issues up, TAFKABO? Guilty conscience?

    I brought it up because you made reference to the song the Billy Boys and posted a link to the lyrics, asking if I was about to give a rendition of it.

    Oul Nick’ll be chucking snowballs long before I feel guilt as a result of your of po faced whinging.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    TAFKABO: “That’s the way I talk a lot of the time.Who the f*ck appointed you arbiter of how I, or anyone else should express themselves?
    Don’t be such a selfrighteous twat. ”

    Ah, the ad hominem… bravo…

    The fact is, like it or not, people judge one by the words they use, although, as I understand, one can always fall back on accent in the Isles.

    If you are going to use the vulgar argot, must you not also accept that which comes with it?

  • TAFKABO

    If you are going to use the vulgar argot, must you not also accept that which comes with it?

    By the same token, I refer you back to my selfrighteous twat comment.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    TAFKABO: “By the same token, I refer you back to my selfrighteous twat comment. ”

    And now we return to the acerbic “another eloquent reubttal.” Name-calling… Bravo.

    Sarcasm is lost on the dull.