Adams still on US “terror watch list”?

It appears that the Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams [or his travelling companion Richard McAuley – Ed] remains on The List as far as US Homeland Security are concerned. As RTÉ reports, “Gerry Adams, missed a function in Buffalo, NY, last night after he was stopped for additional security checks by officials at a Washington aiport.” The BBC report has a little more detail – the reference to the terror watch list comes from US Congressman Brian Higgins, officially there’s no comment on who is or isn’t on that list – and Reuters has a candidate for quote of the dayThe Homeland Security official told Reuters that as Adams “was traveling to Buffalo, he was routinely going through (standard security screening) and he had a very thorough secondary screening.”

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  • TAFKABO

    Looks like a bit of the old bend over and spread em treament for poor old Gerry.

    Ouch!

    You think maybe Mitchel Reiss gave a quick call to the security people at the airport?
    That’ll teach him what happens when you bite the hand that feeds.

  • Busty Brenda

    LOL good one TAFKABO

  • ingrammartin

    What happened to the Comrade post. I have moved this post to the Plan B one . Sorry.

  • GavBelfast

    Amazing how they could have made a mistake like this.

  • alfred

    see comrades, see! the securocrats extend their reach even into washington airport in their endless, vicious effort to undo our beloved leader and his magnificent plan for ireland! is there nothing these vile creatures will not do to undermine the peace process?

  • circles

    seems like the yanks are as good at playing silly buggers as anyone else.
    At least Gerry has experience at this – just imagine this had have happened to the Good Doctor!! He’d have no idea what was happening. But then again, why would anyone stop Papa Doc – sure he has never had anything to do with what George Bush calls “turrism”

  • pol

    Homeland Security in America has gone crazy.

    If this sort of thing had been going on in the old USS of R, the Yankees would have been shouting about human rights abuse.

    The next we will see is a wall going up.

  • TAFKABO

    Homeland Security in America has gone crazy.

    Ahferfuxsake get a sense of perspective.
    Having yer bags searched twice is hardly the stuff of a totaliarian nightmare, unless I missed that part in Orwells book where Winston was locked in a room with an airport security guard?

    Seems to me that this was a message to Mr Adams, who had the audacity to go to America as a guest, and think that he could basically insult the people that run the place.

  • Kathy_C

    posted by Kathy C

    Hi all,

    It had me snickering a bit at the irony of it all. It wasn’t a mistake….adam’s name was on it for a reason ….to cause him discomfort and embarrassment…and to probably really piss him off…… I think SF following adam’s recent 2 year plan has lost them alot of ground and lost gerry his hands off status….He can’t fund raise…He can’t fly….He can’t do much but complain and he does that ever so often.

    posted by Kathy C

  • wag

    It is less about the so-called insult to Reiss (he is a big boy I am sure he and the Bush administration can handle Adams petty barbs, they have endured worse), and more about getting Sinn Fein to move on policing. Imagine, last year Bush promised the McCartneys he would do all he could and a year on, not much has been done, who do you think the Bush admin. holds responsible for that, Hugh Orde or Gerry Adams. If Adams won’t/can’t get the Republican Movement to continue playing ball, then he will no longer receive special treatment from the US government. Simple as that.

  • lib2016

    The Brits called in their markers and this is the best they could get? Hardly worth helping to kill a hundred thousand Iraqis for!

  • Mojo

    Well, no WONDER they stopped yer man Gerry! Take a look at what he had done to the beard. Getting caught up in all of that shamrock wearing and green beer drinking in D.C. is one thing, but when you start coloring your hair and then shwoing up at the security gate….. That would put anyone on alert.

    http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060318/1025462.asp

  • The Dubliner

    At some American airports, 16 percent of passengers are routinely subjected to secondary screening under the CAPPS II security program. Contrary to what some latent homosexual fantasists may conjecture on this thread, secondary screening is done with utmost concern for individual privacy rights and does not involve invasive procedures.

  • Kathy_C

    posted by Kathy C

    Hi all,

    I don’t know if any of you know or recall but awhile ago Senator Kennedy wasn’t alow to fly out of Wash because his name was found on a list. It took several hours and phone calls but he was finally cleared and given the ok to fly.

    as for screening done with the utmost concern for the individual privacy rights isn’t always true. There was a issue lately that women are getting padded down in not so nice ways standing in line and it has become such a problem….it is being investigated and looked into. Back to adams…again, it was all planned and they were sending Gerry a message. wonder if he got it?

  • Dave

    I think that gerry was given a very clear message by the Americans which goes something like this:

    Gerry we know that you are a terrorist and thought that we let you know that we know, you know?

    Or maybe the Americans were reminding Gerry of his status while walking on American soil that his is defined as a terrorist.

    Somehow I believe that Gerry got the message, but why should he care he has (loads of money).

  • Let’s see ………
    Adams has been shot, followed, jailed, bugged, vilified and shut off radio & TV.

    And he’s going to be brought back on the reservation if the TSA doesn’t hoover his knickers for secret decoder rings?

    Get some perspective. This was the same crew that thought we’d bee greeted by joyous Iraqis and showered with flowers and sweets. You don’t want us on this job.

    Persevere, the regime ends in 1039 days.

  • Colin Carberry

    This is George W. Bush’s ham-fisted way of saying, ‘Don’t get lippy with me, Adams, or I’ll make life difficult for you.’ Fair play to Gerry for waiting until he was actually on American soil before criticizing the Administration’s stance towards Sinn Fein: he maximized his party’s media coverage, gained sympathy in the eyes of even pro-Bush Irish America, and like a true Belfast boy dared Bush right to his hateful leering simian face.

  • Pete Baker

    And yet, Colin.. this happened after Adams had trotted obediently along to the White House.. where he was entirely comfortable shaking hands and laughing at all the President’s jokes.. just like all the rest of the invitees..

  • colin

    Point taken, Peter. Still, given Bush’s current lowest ever approval ratings status, and his chronic need for at least one foreign policy success before he leaves office, the oil-man could very well do with a friend like Gerry Adams. Just because people tended to laugh at Stalin’s jokes too didn’t make the man a comedian: I’d call it politics.

  • Pete Baker

    Well, make up your mind, Colin.. either Gerry’s a true Belfast boy daring to laugh in Bush’s face.. or he’s a lickspittle political lackey laughing at a murderous tyrant’s jokes – he can’t be both.

    *not that I think that your descriptions of either of the individuals concerned are in any way accurate*

  • colin carberry

    Peter, Gerry Adams is conscious that he is dealing with a tyrant who has murdered thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis, just as he has dealt with murderous British tyrants in the past. But did you actually see Gerry laughing along with Bush? In the course of his political career, Adams has been tortured, beaten, banned, censored and shot at for his political beliefs, and you think this chancer Bush is going to intimidate him? Not likely. These true Belfast boys are willing to die for their beliefs if necessary. They don’t dodge the draft and then go and send other peoples’ sons and daughters into the heat of combat.

  • Pete Baker

    At the risk of repeating myself.. and your rhetoric on Bush is duly noted.. But which is it Colin? Surely [quote]“a true Belfast boy”[end quote] wouldn’t be glad-handing at a tyrant’s reception?

    Or is that duplicity what you expect?

  • colin carberry

    Well, Peter, that “true Belfast boy” bit seems to have really irked you. A true Belfast boy does what he has to do to free his country — even if that means shaking hands with the Devil himself; it didn’t stop old Rummy from glad-handling the ‘Baghdad Butcher’ when it suited him, now did it? So once again, Peter: it’s called politics. Even an embed should get that.

  • The Flying dutchman

    “Adams has been tortured, beaten, banned, censored and shot at for his political beliefs”

    You do realise the assassins who shot him were foiled by off duty members of the “Crown Forces”

  • Shore Road Resident

    Now might be a good time to make it clear that this can’t possibly be the same Colin Carberry who writes for Hot Press. Because he isn’t a twat, like.

  • R.W.F

    So someones fingered Adams…. as a potential security risk.

    Routine checks don’t stop you long enough to miss your flight, I’m afraid grizzly was anally violated.

  • colin

    Actually, Gerry Adams’ would-be assassins were picked up by undercover members of the “Crown Forces” who just happened to be in the area when the planned hit took place. In the light all the data now being uncovered concerning “Crown Forces” training, handling, arming, financing directing and penetration of Loyalist death squads, it’s not much of a leap to surmise the ‘security forces’ were hoping to eliminate their number one Irish enemy, and point to the fact that they had jailed his killers — a few expendable ‘prods’ — to maintain the pretence of neutrality. They were unlucky, and I don’t think it’s an accident that Thatcher almost bit the bullet soon after.

  • pol

    tafkabo

    So a political party from Ireland is invited to America,(a bastion of free speech and democracy) and it’s party leader dares to speak out about the bias treatment afforded to his party.

    So in your words if you dare to speak out. It is OK for Homeland security to stop and harass you.

    I will say it again, just like the old USS of R.

  • Kathy_C

    Posted by Kathy C

    Hi all,

    Smilin’ Jim and flying dutchman, True Gerry A was shot…but that fact should not stop people from talking about or even having the nerve to critize his leadership within the party. When he became the pres. of SF than in reality like other politicans he gave up his right to privacy and people can discuss all aspects of his life. Insterestingly, how people stated Donaldson the spy was well connected …even a picture of him with his arms around Bobby Sands…and that was good enough to vouche for him…. and similiar use of the “GERRY A was shot” is suppose to cover all aspects of his leadership….On a personal issue…that isn’t fair to gerry adams…if he is a good leader then it will come out in the wash…if he is not…then that will be shown as well….but to say…he was shot…and then use that as a tool to end discussion is wrong.

  • Brian Boru

    I think this reflects 2 things: A: Pressure on SF to join the Policing-Board and B: Punishment to SF for criticism of Shannon stopovers and Iraq.

  • TAFKABO

    So a political party from Ireland is invited to America,(a bastion of free speech and democracy) and it’s party leader dares to speak out about the bias treatment afforded to his party.

    Where I come from, it’s basic courtesy to speak well of your hosts.
    Adams had the brass neck to suggest he had been invaluable to the White House, when some might think that his sanctification in recent years, by the White House and others, lent him a credibility he ought to have been grateful off.

    So in your words if you dare to speak out. It is OK for Homeland security to stop and harass you.

    It seems stupid to think you can take the piss, like he did, and not expect some repercussions.
    Adams was being reminded of his place in the grand scheme of things.

    A salutory lesson to all who think that Northern Ireland is the centre of the universe.

  • Celticpussy

    Maybe all those nasty things happened to Gerry not because of his political beliefs, but because he is and has been up to his neck in one of the most cruel and blood-thisty organisations the world has ever seen?

  • colin carberry

    Mere mention of the name Gerry Adams will probably always throw certain personality types into spasms of self-righteous knee-jerking: similar things were said of Michael Collins, Nelson Mandela, George Washington and others who had the audacity to stand up to their racist colonial overlords and demand equal treatment. But the British were kicked out of America and the South of Ireland, the South African racist regime fell, and Britain is now slowly and quietly dismantling her way out of the North as well. Why? Because people like Gerry Adams refused to be treated like a second-class citizen. And while we’re on the subject of ‘terrorist violence’, no one can will ever accuse Adams of being a member of the boy scouts, but neither wil we uncover any lily-whites in the ranks of the Loyalist terror groups or the SAS/FRU/MI5.

  • Kathy_C

    posted by Kathy C

    Hi all,

    Colin Carberry, I agree with you about Michael Collins, Nelson Mandela and George Washington. I also agree with that statement regarding members of PIRA. There is a problem with Gerry Adams , though, because he has come out and stated he was not a member of PIRA…I don’t think he deserves the same elevation or respect as people who have stated they were members of PIRA> In a way Gerry Adams wants the best of all worlds….He wants the respect given by the republican community for a member of PIRA and yet he wants to be able to have the deniability of stating he wasn’t PIRA to ease the unionist community.

    posted by Kathy C

  • “…but that fact should not stop people from talking about or even having the nerve to critize his leadership within the party.”

    Hijack someone else’s stuff.

    I did not address chuckie political voodoo.

    One point was that it is plainly stupid to think that anything the TSA could do would influence anyone who was at risk throughout the troubles.

    The second point was that no one who has lived through the last five years should want F Troop to be proactive about their cause.

    If you just want money, that’s different. Ask away. The Chinese commies are loaning us just enough to hang ourselves.

  • TL

    As I’ve been saying for a while, the bush administration hates Gerry and Co. “sure you can come to the white house but we’ll show you what we really think of you.” SO typical! Bush sucks.
    TL

  • pol

    tafkabo

    I have never had a problem with any person coming here and making a political comment. I might not agree with what they have to say, but i will defend there wright to say it.
    I would also afford that right to yourself.
    But it doesnt sound like you would reciprocate the gesture, especially when it comes to Jerry Adams.
    It may be a case of your dislike for the person, clouding your judgement.

  • TAFKABO

    It may be a case of your dislike for the person, clouding your judgement.

    I like to think that I’ve been able to keep my complete and utter loathing for the contemptible Mr Adams from clouding my judgement of any issue relating to him.

  • pol

    tafkabo

    You need to chill out, and get over it man.

    Try changing your diet.

  • TAFKABO

    Yeah, I’ve been thinking of trying that new Gerry Adams diet.

    Sour grapes and humble pie.

    ;-p