BBC is the best UK thing ever…

So says Ireland’s top group blog The Community On Line At Large.

  • bo’shank

    give me bangers and mash over the bbc anyday!

  • Stephen Copeland


    You give the impression that this is the opinion of TCOL, when in fact they’re just reporting the results of a survey.

    Your error is in using the expression “so says … “, which can mean two things; either ‘so reports …’ or ‘so believes …’

    The fact of TCOL being Irish might give your readers the incorrect idea thaat the BBC is the most populaar British thing amongst Irish people. It may indeed be, but since we were not asked, who knows?

    My own favorite British thing (since you were about to ask) is punk rock (yeah, shows my age …). The BBC, on the other hand, sucks …. badly!

  • Pubes

    The best thing in the UK is the sign leaving it. Chortle chortle.

  • smcgiff

    I want a …

    [B]I love the BBC[/B] badge

  • Stephen Copeland


    I want a … I love the BBC badge

    To go with your Blue Peter badge, I presume?


  • Mick Fealty

    Seamus, try Tim at Bloggerheads!

    Stephen, lighten up man! It’s a blog, not the DFA!!

  • Rory

    There certainly is a strong feeling in the UK, among well read people of refined liberal sensibilities and hoary old lefty boozers (among one of which categories I may be found) at least, that the BBC, of all public institutions is the one that keeps alive a glimmer of hope.

    Certainly not the best in this best of all possible worlds but imperfectly uplifting in this imperfect world. I’m a fan anyway.

  • Stephen Copeland


    Stephen, lighten up man! It’s a blog, not the DFA!!

    I’m vitually floating here, I’m so light. [Or is Pluto passing behind Jupiter around now?]

    What the heck is the DFA?

  • Stephen Copeland


    … the BBC, of all public institutions is the one that keeps alive a glimmer of hope.

    The rest must be worse than I thought then. What hope can you derive from the streadily declining standards, the woefully repetitive formulaeic programmes, the narrow jingoism, the insularity of it all, the poor quality of presenters, the attempts at social engineering, the overt political skew, ….

    I never lived in the USSR, but when I watch the BBC I get a glimpse of what Pravda and the rest must have been like. It depresses me to think that a modern, educated country can actually consider this stuff worthy of it, or worse, consider that it reflects its best.

    [sorry Mick, too heavy again!]

  • Its TCAL – The Community At Large, not TCOL.

  • Alexander Bowman


    I tend to agree, but would adapt, and apply, Churchill’s phrase describing democracy as ‘the least worst of all the rest’ of mechanisms for running modern polities.

    Without wishing to grant them the oxygen of oxygen (never mind the oxygen of publicity – a nod there to the sadly-missed Linda Smith) check out the ‘dissenting’ website’s attitude vis-a-vis la tante….

  • smcgiff

    ‘To go with your Blue Peter badge, I presume?’

    If only I hadn’t lost it years ago … :¬(

  • alexander bowman

    And furthermore,

    What about all the – and, to my mind, to be eternally celebrated – ‘old lefties’ who kept people’s attention focussed on Spain, Abysinnia (as was), Warsaw….(leap forward) Budapest…

    Rory, you (or they) need to remember people like Charles Wheeler, James Cameron (and not simply the Dimblebums and their lickspittle dynasty – I’m confident that if, after I’m cryogenically revived there will be one of David or Jonathan’s offspring (guess they thought that was hip and kind of philo-semitic way to name their brats) to cheer along a ‘Wills’ tootling up the Mall in a zimmer….

  • Rory

    You’ve lost me a wee bit there, Alexander. I’d always thought everyone admired James Cameron as a boozy old lefty as he is still so celebrated. Charles Wheeler was an Indophile (?) who felt betrayed by the BBC and the British establishment but I don’t recall that he was generally regarded as a lefty.

    What the hell the Dimbelbys have got to do with it, I don’t know. I do know from personal experience that Jonathan was sufficiently concerned about British involvement in Ireland as to lend support and recruit further support for a major initiative to investigate that involvement. That support could not have endered him to the establishment.

  • alexander bowman


    Sorry for not responding sooner – beginning my run-up to today…

    Didn’t know that about Jonathan D. (There again, Kate Hoey used to work with E.McCann in ‘Troops Out.’) But will look into it.

    I think you may be confusing Charles Wheeler – who dealt mainly with U.S. affairs – and Mark Tully…

  • Rory

    Quite right, Alexander. I did confuse Wheeler with Tully. Apologies.

    Yes, Kate Hoey was a member of the Troops Out Movement (and I believe an International Marxist Group member practising entryism into the Labour Party). I remember well rounding on her at a Labour Party conference in Blackpool when she refused to push a motion on Ireland which as a delegate for her CLP she had been mandated to so do. Her response was that I didn’t understand. She was right about that, I didn’t. I had a naive belief in grass roots democracy, but then such encumberances could only but serve to hold an ambitious girl back.

    I must admit I never liked her after that and not even her work as a physio with my beloved Gunners could sweeten her in my eyes.

    Jonathan D. and Lord Gifford both lent support to the Troops Out sponsored initiative for an International Labour Tribunal on Ireland, which also had the support of such luminareies as JP Sartre, de Beauvoir, Marcuse, Chomsky and many more including Gene Tunney Jr., Ed Asner, John Randolph (of the Hollywood Actors Union) and, would you believe it?… The Fonz! As well as trade union and labour groups throughout Britain and Ireland and internationally. Unfortunately it was swamped by the Trots and fell into inglorious ignominy. Ah! Those were the days.