UDA will never go away you know!!

The UDA also made a statement in court this morning. Although it says it must now take its struggle into the political arena, it nowhere unambiguously suggests it is pulling out of criminal activity. And in an echo of Gerry Adams words, it signs off with “We’ll never go away you know!!”. Emmm…Here’s the UDA’s statement in full:

In the summer of 1972 when the IRA threatened our very existence young Protestant men flocked in their thousands to join vigilante groups across Ulster to defend Ulster from Republican aggression.

These brave young men manned barricades at their street to defend their homes as the enemy drew in. These vigilantes became what is now the Ulster Defence Association.

At one stage in ’74 the UDA made the loyalist community so strong that it was able to topple the Sunningdale Agreement. Not driven by personal gain but to fight for Ulster, they became a well-oiled ruthless killing machine which was named the Ulster Freedom Fighters. They matched and indeed surpassed the PIRA in political assassinations.

Some of these volunteers gave many years of their lives in jail, whilst others paid the supreme sacrifice with their lives. Friends and comrades, thank you for showing your support for tonight’s
event. As you know know the PIRA has surrendered. This in itself was a victory for the loyalist community although our Unionist politicians and the Secretary of State don’t want to seem to give us any concessions.

So we must now take our fight into the political arena. However, this does not spell the end for the UDA. We want to reassure you all that the Ulster Defence Association is here to stay. I would also like to take this opportunity to let our prisoners and their families know that we wilkl continue to fight for them. And while Hugh Orde continually calls us criminals and puts only North Belfast Brigade Staff in jail on trumped up charges, we remain as strong as ever.

We’ll never go away you know!!

  • Pete Baker

    Hmmm.. made a statement in court, Mick?

    Or a document, containing the statement, and found during the raid at the bar, was read in court?

  • pacman

    God I always thought these bozo’s lived in fantasy land and now they confirm it in writing. A bigger bunch of misfits, sexual deviants and outright criminals/thugs this island has yet to see. Probably the reason why they’re continually doomed to failure in any political arena. Let’s face it all the UDA have to offer is shoot a few taigs to get someone to give them more money for such laydable community initiatives as a new BMW and a flutter on the GG’s.

  • Loftholdingswood

    I welcome the fact that North Belfast are upholding the South Belfast initiative and moving into the political arena. The UPRG hold the key to moving forward in a peaceful manner. The PSNI raid is extremely untimely and unwelcome and one must question what “information” they obtained and how as clearly it was wide of the mark. I look forward to the storming of various clubs and bars in West Belfast when Sinn Fein hold similar “events”.

  • What do the Ulster Political Research Group actually research?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    ‘I look forward to the storming of various clubs and bars in West Belfast when Sinn Fein hold similar “events”.’

    Do they?

  • Crataegus

    “The PSNI raid is extremely untimely and unwelcome”

    WHAT!!!!!!!! Long overdue and I hope many more will follow.

  • pacman

    The only thing the UPRG hold the key to is the gun cabinet> looks like they haven’t dusted it in a while though given that their attempt to kill a taxi-driver the other night failed.

  • HolyGhost

    Is Sammy Duddy related to pastor Begby from Give my head peace, they sound very like each other and probably have similar IQ’s

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    The raid on the UDA members was a nice stunt for the optics that allowed the PSNI to put on show their new toys, but has it achieved anything?

    The people connected to the UDA are involved in racketeeering, drug dealing and other enterprises on a daily basis. Little or no attempt is made to hide their wealth. When all is said and done this ‘crackdown’ on the UDA has resulted in very minor charges that even at this stage look unsustainable.

  • Jill Robinson

    Hmm, Ulster Defence Association.

    Never trust an organization with the word “defense” in its name. It’s usually shorthand for offense.

    This rule applies to governments too. What used to be called ministries of war became ministries of defense after the … um, war.

    And when a government reveals its new “defense” budget, you know that some unlucky 3rd world country is about to get its ass kicked 🙁

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Actually, this is the full version of the statement which was read out in court by Crown counsel David Hopley who said it was intended to be delivered at the UDA/UFF function the following night.

    “In the summer of 1972 when the IRA threatened our very existence young Protestant men flocked in their thousands to join vigilante groups across Ulster to defend Ulster from Republican aggression.

    “These brave young men manned barricades at their street to defend their homes as the enemy drew in. These vigilantes became what is now the Ulster Defence Association.

    “At one stage in ’74 the UDA made the loyalist community so strong that it was able to topple the Sunningdale Agreement.

    “Not driven by personal gain but to fight for Ulster, they became a well-oiled ruthless killing machine which was named the Ulster Freedom Fighters. They matched and indeed surpassed the PIRA in political assassinations.

    “Some of these volunteers gave many years of their lives in jail, whilst others paid the supreme sacrifice with their lives.

    “Friends and comrades, thank you for showing your support for tonight’s event. As you know know the PIRA has surrendered. This in itself was a victory for the loyalist community although our Unionist politicians and the Secretary of State don’t want to seem to give us any concessions.

    “So we must now take our fight into the political arena. However, this does not spell the end for the UDA. We want to reassure you all that the Ulster Defence Association is here to stay.

    “I would also like to take this opportunity to let our prisoners and their families know that we wilkl continue to fight for them. And while Hugh Orde continually calls us criminals and puts only North Belfast Brigade Staff in jail on trumped up charges, we remain as strong as ever.

    “We’ll never go away you know!!”

    “Only for the brave men who knows where we would be today. So tonight we would like to show our appreciation to some of them who have made it here (Get Willie to hand out plaques).

    “We would also make a presentation to the North Belfast Brigfade on behalf of the volunteer who lost their lives. These men shall never be forgotten.

    “Could we please also show our appreciation to our four office staff, Leyanne, Sammy, John and Jimmy, for their tireless work and endeavour.”

    Ends

    A defence solicitor told the court: “It’s somewhat ironic that the plea had been advanced by police that the individuals in the upstairs bar were involved in some sort of show of strength.

    “In fact they were attending a meeting, the result of which was to announce the end of all criminal activities by the UDA.

    “Police have documents to prove that.”

    In fact, they don’t, as the statement says nothing of the sort.

    Tomorrow should be a fun day in court…

  • Jill Robinson

    “A defence solicitor told the court: “It’s somewhat ironic that the plea had been advanced by police that the individuals in the upstairs bar were involved in some sort of show of strength.”

    Lawyers, what sort of people are they? They’ll lie for the Devil himself if the fee is right.

    There’s a lawyer joke doing the rounds in the U.S.A.

    “Doctor, can I get pregnant from anal sex?”

    “Of course you can, my dear. How do you think lawyers come into the world?”

  • Francis Begbie

    Just out of interest, Why havent the Assets Recovery Agency not targeted Jackie McDonald et al. The guys never done an honest days work in his life.

    Is he a friend of special branch? If so, why do his so called comrades who he informs on not take him out?

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Pat McLarnon,
    The answer to your 5:37 question yesterday is yes, SF/IRA do hold similar events…

    Loftholdingswood,
    I agree with all that you say. The UPRG do hold the key to young loyalists moving away from the military path of carrying out operations which the UFF were forced into by sectarian republican murder gangs, pre-ceasefires, and taking the political path and working to give the loyalist grassroots a voice in local councils and the legislative Assembly…

    Holy Ghost,
    Your attack on Sammy Duddy is immature, unfounded and contrary to the “play the ball, not the man” policy of Slugger. Sammy Duddy was formerly the Editor of the UDA magazine “Ulster” and now works tirelessly at interfaces such as North Queen Street to prevent loyalists from Tigers Bay responding to daily provocation from New Lodge republicans…

    Pastor of Muppets,
    The UPRG provide political analysis for the Ulster Defence Association.

  • Concerned Loyalist

    The 4:08pm post was not by Pete Baker3, but Concerned Loyalist. When is this going to stop? It’s really irritating!

  • pacman

    “carrying out operations which the UFF were forced into by sectarian republican murder gangs”

    Oh the poor young things. Imagine being forced to shoot catholics very much against your will. It’s absolutely criminal (and probably all some papal plot).

    Dear God, it’s 2006 and people still believe this self-induced crap. It’s kinda like the myth that poor education and poor investment is all the papes fault.

    Thank God the world moves on around you CL. Enjoy your paranoia.

  • pitt park

    “The UPRG do hold the key to young loyalists moving away from the military path”

    The uda have have guaranteed that young loyalists face a lifetime of addiction to heroin, cocaine etc..

    Do these drug gangs honestly believe that people on the ground are stupid.

    Blackmail, prostitution, rape, drugs, thuggery & mutilations – and thats only in loyalist areas.

  • observer

    the facts remain that more loyalists have been convicted than republicans over the years.

    recently it has been loyalists who have been hit by the ARA , yet republicans have been let off to live on their illegal wealth.

    It pays to be a good terrorist

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Pete Baker6,
    “young loyalists face a lifetime of addiction to heroin”…

    There is not a major heroin problem in Ulster, so your information is wrong.
    Cocaine-use is rife, I agree, but it is not restricted to “young loyalists”, but instead transcends all age, sex, class and religious boundaries…

  • Concerned Loyalist

    The 4:04pm comment was the work of Concerned Loyalist and not Pete Baker3…

  • scones

    blame the uda for everything ,there would not be a uda if it wasnt for ira scumbags.

  • Jill Robinson

    scones:

    blame the uda for everything ,there would not be a uda if it wasnt for ira scumbags.

    Yeah, and before the IRA? Let’s see how many posts it takes to bring us back, thru cause and effect, to the Plantations.

    Bottom line: it was all the fault of Moses, the son of an Israelite bitch!

  • sandy row loyalist

    its funny you blame loyalists on the drugs problem when most nationalist/catholics i overhear at the poker game at yorkgate seem to be buying theirs from the new lodge

  • Conor Gillespie

    Jill Robinson,
    “Yeah, and before the IRA? Let’s see how many posts it takes to bring us back, thru cause and effect, to the Plantations.”

    hear! hear! This use of chronic ‘whataboutery’ by terrorist apologists is not only useless but often reduces the thread to the lowliest form of debate.

    Concerned Loyalist,
    “the military path of carrying out operations which the UFF were forced into by sectarian republican murder gangs”

    Again, this use of the actions of one group of murderers as a rhetorical tool to defend a second group of murderers is utter bollox. Such contributions only lead to the inevitable “What about catholic discrimination?”/”What about anti-protestant sentiment after the formation of the free state?”/”what about the penal laws” etc. all the way back to the plantations. This kind of garbage goes nowhere. Replace “UFF” with “IRA” and “sectarian republican” with “sectarian loyalist” and you’ll get the same rhetorical drivel that the provos spoon feed to nationalists. If you honestly believe that the IRA’s slaughter of innocent Protestants is moral justification for the UDA’s slaughter of innocent Catholics (or as you so eloquently put it “the military path of carrying out operations) then you seriously need to consult either a psychologist, a man of the cloth, or possibly even both. Quit sticking your head in the sand and take a good look at the Ulster Defence organization and then try repeating the above phrase in good conscience.

  • Conor Gillespie

    “the Ulster Defence organization”

    Sorry, I that should have been “the Ulster Defense Association”

  • kenny scones

    why dont you stupid yanks stop supporting republican murderers who are training farq to kill americans. And are no doubt connected to al quaeda, well they fly palestinian flags don’t they.