Fallout from the Dublin riot…

HENRY McDonald thinks Saturday’s riot in Dublin will mean the postponement of the British monarch’s first visit to the Irish capital since partition, which could have happened this summer. Meanwhile, RTE reports that the Irish Justice Minister has just briefed Ministers that “gardaí had no reason to expect the violence that erupted in protest at Saturday’s Love Ulster march in Dublin”.

Michael McDowell will lead a special debate in the Irish parliament later this afternoon. Interestingly, when pointing the finger, a Daily Ireland editorial argues:

“Opposition parties have called for an inquiry into the apparent state of unreadiness of the gardaí, as if somehow the gardaí can be made to shoulder some of the blame. Nothing should be allowed to detract from the central truth — the blame lies with those who think they can bring violence to the streets of Dublin and get away with it.”

Could this possibly be the first time republicanism has blamed republicans for a riot instead of the police or “provocative” loyalists?! Colin O’Carroll sticks his neck out and says there should be a re-run of the loyalist parade in the same DI editorial, though without the involvement of loyalist paramilitaries.

Elsewhere, parade organiser Willie Frazer has blamed the Irish president and Fr Alec Reid – who both have compared unionists to Nazis – for demonising loyalists and thus creating the context for Saturday’s violence.

Meanwhile, Indymedia describes the riot as Ireland’s first ‘smartmob’ protest. It reckons live coverage of the riot on the internet beat the mainstream media hands down. I’m inclined to agree.

There’s more reaction here and here on two unionist blogs.

Unionists seem to be interpreting the riot as confirmation that their culture and beliefs – their “civil and religious liberties” – are still under attack, north and south. It strongly reinforces many loyalist and unionist fears about how they would be treated in a united Ireland, no matter what politicians say.

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  • Concerned Loyalist

    I was expecting a protest from fascist republican groupings against Protestant “Huns” walking past the Garden of Remembrance and GPO, but like the Gardai I didn’t expect the ferocity of the sectarian hatred shown, and the number of thugs involved in the rioting.

    In the past I have been very critical of the Gardai and their attempted cover-up of the fact that some of their officers, in particular in border areas, were colluding with the Provos by setting up RUC officers such as Bob Buchanan and Harry Breen.

    Having said that, I believe none of the officers on the streets of Dublin on Saturday were lacking bravery or courage, and acted with dignity and integrity in the face of a fascist republican mob baying for Protestant blood, so I think any criticizm of them should be re-directed at Provisional SF/IRA, Republican SF/CIRA and IRSP/RIRA, who’s members were seen brawling with Gardai or directing younger hoods to do the same…

  • Concerned Loyalist

    Correction: IRSP/INLA – the 32-County Sovereignty Committee is the “political wing” of the “Real” IRA, the authors of the murderous Omagh bombing of 1998…

  • The Truth Will Set You Free

    Strange that CL never uses the term Fascist when its applied to the 50 odd years of Unionist one party rule at Stormont.

    In the same breathe, has he ever once used it with reference to loyalist Terror groupings such as the UDA/UVF?

    Where all the Orangemen rioting and attcking the PSNI after the Whiterock parade, Fascist. Was the ensuing orgy of destruction and robbery in Loyalist areas, Fascism at work!!!

  • Stephen Copeland

    HENRY McDonald thinks Saturday’s riot in Dublin will mean the postponement of the British monarch’s first visit to the Irish capital since partition, which could have happened this summer.

    My prediction: Mrs Windsor will visit this summer, but not Dublin. I reckon she will pay a brief (and semi-private) visit to Mullaghmore on 27 August to commemorate Mountbatten who died there on 27/08/1979. Probably Mary McAleese will join her.

    In this way, Mrs W breaks the ice, but without the over-the-top hype of a state visit to Dublin. She commemorates her favorite uncle at the spot he died, and McAleese’s participation ensures a cross-community commemoration.

    Mrs Windsor could fly in to Finner Camp, only a few miles north of Mullaghmore, and only a few miles over the border, and be back out before any media have a chance to descend, making the visit a dignified and non-controversial one, unstained by any fracas. People could then take stock of the reaction, before deciding on any further visit.

  • spartacus

    i’d agree that the march can be rerun but without oo (why do they belong on a ‘victims’ march anyway?) and with an agreement from willie that photos of those involved in the dublin-monaghan bombings will not be carried in the march. if anyone was being used here it is those genuine victims who have had their cause hitched to the fortunes of the dup and the sectarian roadshow. see susan mckay’s eloquent piece on fair and its refusal to remove unfounded accusations against the reavey family from its website.

  • As long as Britain maintains a colonial state in any part of Ireland, no British monarch should be welcome.

  • pakman

    “As long as Britain maintains a colonial state in any part of Ireland, no British monarch should be welcome”

    If only.

    “Mrs Windsor will visit this summer, but not Dublin. I reckon she will pay a brief (and semi-private) visit to Mullaghmore on 27 August to commemorate Mountbatten who died there on 27/08/1979. Probably Mary McAleese will join her.”

    You can’t even bring yourself to be civil about our Queen or acknowledge Lord Mountbatten was murdered. And you wonder why this island will forever contain two nations.

  • slug

    “Elsewhere, parade organiser Willie Frazer has blamed the Irish president and Fr Alec Reid – who both have compared unionists to Nazis – for demonising loyalists and thus creating the context for Saturday’s violence.”

    I would not say the former caused the latter.

    I would say they both have a common cause.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Explain.

  • Stephen Copeland

    Pakman,

    You can’t even bring yourself to be civil about our Queen or acknowledge Lord Mountbatten was murdered.

    I expected your response. I was actually extremely civil about your head of state. I do not acknowledge, or use, undemocratic titles, however, where possible. I am an old-fashioned egalitarian.

    As for ‘murdered’ as opposed to ‘died’, I think the latter term is less emotive. And we could do with less emotion here sometimes. Nonetheless, I will look forward to your descriptions of how the Bloody Sunday victims died, for instance, along with a correct description of their killers, the masters of their killers, those who subsequently hid the truth, and those who still belittle that truth. Your turn …

  • JG

    “… were colluding with the Provos by setting up RUC officers such as Bob Buchanan and Harry Breen.”

    Again this has been proven to be buncombe. Look at the RUC when you want to find police collusion.

    In fact Concerned loyalist names a colluder!