won’t happen this year, nor next, nor realistically for many years..

There’s no way of knowing whether Vincent Browne has voted in our poll.. but if his opinion piece in yesterday’s Sunday Business Post is anything to go by, his vote would be for “Later”. He opens with a prediction on the players themselves, and on the prospects of a ‘settlement’ –

No reinstatement of the institutions of the Good Friday Agreement, no agreement on policing, continuing involvement by paramilitaries in criminality and sporadic violence.

But in the long run it won’t matter, for the trajectory of events in the North was set more than 12 years ago. Ultimately, there will be an accommodation, if not communal reconciliation – or rather conciliation.

Tony Blair will be long gone from the political scene. Bertie Ahern may still be around, but that says little about any timeframe, for he may be around as Taoiseach for another decade or so, even if he doesn’t want to be. Ian Paisley will hardly be around and we can’t say about Gerry Adams because some day, one of his former – or even present – comrades may conclude he has subverted the struggle for Irish freedom.

It would be preferable if there were a ‘settlement’ this year – a reinstatement of the power-sharing institutions and the all-Ireland bodies, acceptance by Sinn Fein of the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI), an end to exiling, intelligence-gathering and criminality. But it won’t happen this year, nor next, nor realistically for many years – for two reasons.

His reasoning can be read here

  • Suzanne (Sudie) Elsoffer

    The Sunday business post reflects unionist views and nothing more. It does not accurately reflect the views of the nationalist community. I have been a former journalist, I ran a news letter for patients and I always tried to reflect the views of ALL patients, not just some. Particularly the marginalised.

    The Roman Catholic community in N Ireland are a marginalised community. They need to have a full say in government in N Ireland. A return to Stormont is a quick way to do that, with their views represented by Sinn Fein.

    Sinn Fein are the party of choice for ALL nationalists, and the DUP should get off the fence immediately and join them in government.

    The Rev Ian Paisley cannot and should not be allowed to have a veto on the move forward of the peace and government of N Ireland.

    The time is now!

  • Ian Tims

    Why don’t you add a “Don’t Care” option to the poll? You might get a lot more results then!!!

  • Xabi Alonso

    VB is right about one thing: the inevitability of SF signing-up to policing. They are behind their community on this one and the more time goes on, and the more acceptable the PSNI become, the more ridiculous and confused SF’s stance actually is.

  • Shore Road Resident

    This American woman is just priceless!
    Can she be for real?

    FYI dear, the Sunday Business Post is and has always been the most openly pro-Sinn Fein broadsheet in Ireland – indeed, I think it is fair to say that it is and has always been the *only* pro-SF broadsheet in Ireland.

    As for this: “I have been a former journalist, I ran a news letter for patients and I always tried to reflect the views of ALL patients, not just some. Particularly the marginalised.”

    SUPERB!

  • J Kelly

    XA have you the evidence to back up your claims. Since the SDLP joined the policing board, which is generally accepted as the ending of the nationalist consenus on this issue, we have had at leat four elections and each and every time Sinn Fein have won the majority of votes in the nationalist community. This is not to say that the elections were a referendum on policing but it is the only indicator that I can think of to see the how the nationalist community is thinking.

    Second point today alone on this sight SF is being accused of being split on policing because the grass roots are totally opposed to policing and also that they are behind their community on policing. The good thing about all of this debate it still shows that SF are the party that has everybody thinking.

  • Mick Fealty

    Ian,

    Will do!!

  • J Kelly

    site sorry

  • Mick Fealty

    Damn. Can’t change the poll at this stage…

  • Xabi Alonso

    JK, it is pretty clear to me there is no reason for SF not to support policing. The only thing stopping them is at that stage the game will be up and they will have no more cards to play.

    As for SF leading the nationalist community, precisely how far have we come since SF overtook the SDLP in popular support? In that time nationalists have lost the power to help their communities through the suspension of the Executive and Assembly; there’s no North/South Ministerial Council; the DUP are the dominant force in unionism.

    I think last year’s elections were the first sign that nationalists are beginning to reserve judgement on SF.

  • Mike

    “The Sunday business post reflects unionist views and nothing more. It does not accurately reflect the views of the nationalist community.”

    This woud be the same Sunday Business Post that’s widely recognised as strongly nationalist and the most pro-republican of any Dublin Newspaper? Righto Sudie…

    “Sinn Fein are the party of choice for ALL nationalists”

    Even the ones who vote SDLP? Again, righto, Sudie…

  • J Kelly

    XA how do make the assumption that the nationalist community is starting to reserve judgement on Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein increased either actual vote or % vote in 16 constituencies and the lost last support in the same constituencies. So maybe you might think because the SDLP held three seats it was Sinn Fein who actually won more council and westminister seats.

  • barnshee

    The DUPERS are playing a long game

    The Blair Government is now a tired, failed effort limping towards a real battle with the Tories.

    House of Commons votes have already been lost and with some votes going to the wire -the DUPERS with 9? MPS can smell blood. (SF don`t attend so can`t vote.).

    There is no prospect of a local assembly this year- The DUPERS owe their success to the fact that SF are NOT in the the assembly (the fact that neither are the DUPeRS seems not to worry them, the big boys are all coining it at westminster).

    Locally things could fester until the next General Election. ( Hain is the classic all talk politician) When we add the fact that unpalatable decisions on education, rates etc can be blamed on “british ministers” the motives to “stay out” are just too strong

  • SlugFest

    Sudie,

    “I have been a former journalist, I ran a news letter for patients and I always tried to reflect the views of ALL patients, not just some. Particularly the marginalised.”

    As a ‘former journalist’, exactly which style guide are you using in your writings? ‘Cause that sure ain’t MLA or Chicago.

  • German-American

    Regarding the Sunday Business Post’s pro-SF tilt, this was pretty apparent to me as an outsider from just a few readings of its opinion columns linked to from Slugger; I don’t see how anyone could confuse the Sunday Business Post with the Sunday Independent. I’m curious about the history behind that though: From what little I’ve seen the Sunday Business Post appears to be a pretty straightforward business journal, while SF have never been known as cheerleaders for capitalism (to put it mildly). Is this basically a case of the SBP publisher’s or editors’ hearts overruling their heads?

  • Irish Aussie

    I agree with German-American. I know a lot of
    strange things go on in Ireland,but the relationship between the Sunday Business Post and Republicism has always struck me as profoundly odd