IMC to drop a bombshell?

Slugger has just received a few extracts from the IMC report due to be published later today. We stress, that what appears below is an uncorroborated account and should be checked against the actual report. These are the details of those sections which focus on the Provisional IRA only. We understand that the references are virtually verbatim barring a word here and there: “…some signs are at best neutral and a few are more disturbing…” If this is ties only mildly with the published version today, then we are in for a long wait before anything starts for real here, along the lines of the Belfast Agreement at least.

Update: The BBC has clearly had the same leak.Extracts:

Paragraph 3.17: “…while at least in some areas its (PIRA’s) level of visibility may have lessened, the PIRA has not disbanded…involvement of local PIRA members in rioting in Kilcoo…

Paragraph 3.19: “…(on) INTELLIGENCE GATHERING, we believe that the organization continues to be engaged in this and has no present intention of doing otherwise…This is an activity which we believe is authorized by the leadership and which involves some very senior members…While some (of the intelligence gathering) may be for defensive purposes, it is predominantly directed towards supporting its political strategies…(e.g.) the continuation of efforts to penetrate public and other institutions with the intention of illegally obtaining or handling sensitive information…This raises the question of whether the commitment to exclusively democratic means is full and thorough going or whether there remain elements of a continuing subversive attempt going beyond the boundaries of democratic politics…The organization continues to accumulate information about individuals and groups including members of the security forces, though not with the intent to mount attacks…

Paragraph 3.20: “…at least 6 unreported assaults have come to our attention…usually involving personal disputes without leadership authorization…current and former PIRA members have acted in an
unauthorized manner…

EXILING OF INDIVIDUALS: “…has not been lifted…(and some exiling continues)

“Naming and shaming (has been done)… (references to Community Restorative Justice)…

“Opposition to cooperation with the PSNI continues despite improving community willingness to engage with the police…

Paragraph 3.21: CRIMINALITY: some (PIRA) members continue to be heavily involved in serious organized crime …(e.g.) counterfeiting, smuggling of fuel and tobacco…we are not able to say what part of the substantial monies are provided to the organization…(there is) exploitation of the proceeds of earlier funds through purchases of businesses and property…some senior PIRA members are involved in money laundering…(money) has become a key strategic asset (for PIRA)…

  • BogExile

    “Opposition to cooperation with the PSNI continues despite improving community willingness to engage with the police…’

    Confirmation if any more were needed that militant republicanism is terrified its criminal enterprise will be dismantled by greater acceptance of the PSNI by the community. So the community is prevented from proper policing and in turn they have to endure the anti-social behaviour which is crippling those enclaves.

    The objections to full acceptance of the PSNI are internationally ludicrous. When will SFIRA display the political and moral maturity to accept this and move on?

  • BogExile

    Oh, and well scooped Mick!

  • Yokel

    You know this is all simple, everyone knows the paramilitaries, whoever they are run crime empires and whether individuals or centrally organised its the paratmilitary organisation backing that has enabled it to happen.

    The war is apparently over why do they need money anymore? Obvious answer, it isn’t about the war, its about lining your pocket and sticking your chest out. Bottom line, whatever good some people may think that paramilitaries have done such as ‘policing’ areas etc their damage on community has been way in excess of any possiblre good, end of story. Now would they piss off, stop taking our money (yes ours, yours and mine) and leave us alone, no excuses.

  • seabhac siulach

    “we are in for a long wait before anything starts for real here along the lines of the Belfast Agreement.”

    That always looked likely…with this IMC charade continuing.

    If true those sections looks like a maliciously subjective spin on the facts…
    A scraping of the bottom of the barrel for the worst possible interpretation of reality as consistent with the ‘facts’.

    The IRA never said that it was going to disband, so the reports reference to this is baffling. There was even a new years message from the IRA.
    The report also only refers to individual IRA members involved in rioting, assualts and organised crime.
    So what. Are all former or serving IRA to become reformed citizens before we can see political progress.
    If senior PIRA members are involved in money laundering, then that is a matter for the police and the individuals involved, and not Sinn Fein nor the tens of thousands of people that vote for them…

    It states that
    “intelligence gathering…is predominantly directed towards supporting its political strategies…”

    This is the only activity that it specifically says is authorised by the leadership. This is surely important as it suggests ALL other activity is not authorised and is merely carried out by individuals.

    Surely that is to be supported. What political party does not engage in a bit of political spying on the opposition…and Sinn Fein as we know has been ruthlessly spied on…so is it at all unusual that it might be involved in some ‘counter-espionage’.

    This report is thin on facts but heavy on interpretation.

  • Realist

    The Provos just never learn, do they?

    Cue the nay sayers, spin merchants and copious cries of it’s “the spooks”.

    Of course, if they want power they must deal with the truth.

  • Well, Mick, those extracts would explain the Taoiseach’s comments as reported yesterday –

    It would be “unfair to focus” on any specific finding on this issue at the the expense of an overall finding of significant progess.

    ..even if he hadn’t seen the IMC report when he said that..

  • I see the Gardai have dropped a seperate bombshell with details of their raids on properties, businesses, solicitors and accountants in relation to IRA money laundering.

  • JD

    The hideous creation of the Governments ‘Three spooks and a Lord’ has come back to bite them and by extension everyone else that was hoping for political progress. As a republican, I believed that politics could be made to work in this statelet, I was wrong.

  • Warm Storage

    Psst! If you want to access the full report, go to the IMC website, click on the link for the 30 January press release, then change the end of the URL from “30” to “31”. That’ll bring you to a link to the as-yet-unpublished report.

    It shouldn’t be that simple, but it is.

  • BogExile

    ‘As a republican, I believed that politics could be made to work in this statelet, I was wrong.’

    So back to another 35 years of the ‘right stuff’ then, eh?

    If you lot want politics, get over the fact that physical force republicanism is in ALL its forms obsolete. Otherwise you should and will be left behind.

  • Realist

    “If you lot want politics, get over the fact that physical force republicanism is in ALL its forms obsolete. Otherwise you should and will be left behind.”

    Absolutely spot on Bog Exile.

    That’s the truth that needs to be faced up to.

    Unless of course…….

  • Betty Boo

    Warm Storage, nice one.

  • Mick Fealty

    Nice one WS. I owe you a pint in the Belfast hostelry of your choice!! It’s up on Slugger now!! 10 mins ahead of the Beeb, I reckon!!

  • BogExile

    Thanks Realist:

    I just wish that the many thoughtful republicans in the bit of Sinn Fein which isn’t infiltrated and isn’t in the IRA would stop continuing to try to hammer the philosophical round peg into the square hole. It must by now be a very uncomfortable straightjacket.

    Policing must and will be accepted. Communities are crying out for it. The impact would carry the most enormous and beneficial symbolism for all of us. All the while the Republican leadership is carrying on up the cul-de-sac of rejectionism of one of the most liberal and accountable police services in the world. To more or less international derision. Time for some proper leadership. In the meantime, it’s just the poor saps who happen to live in communities blighted by anti-social behaviour and politically protected crime who suffer.

    I don’t like Republican ideology (as we all know) but I’d have true respect for Republicans if they went this extra mile.

  • Belfastwhite

    What a load of crap. It’s innuendo supported with no facts as usual. Hugh Orde should resign if these crimes are going on and no-one has appeared in court never mind been arrested for them. The IMC has proved itself to be nothing but a shit stirring unelected quango it was set up to do.

    The British Government has got carte blanche when it comes to stripping funding from our Health Services and Education, just wait and see the jobs disappear. While our elected representatives are not allowed to do their job because of this innuendo which would not stand up in any court.

    On a separate note does the IMC give any more reason for stating the IRA was involved in the Northern Bank and other charges? I seem to remember that they said that this would be provided in later reports.

  • Keith M

    Is anyone really surprised by this? The Gardai have also been trying to break-up SF/IRA’s money laudering racket in this country. When will people finally accept that SF/IRA are not a party fit for govenment. God knows Bertie Ahern has said it enough times.

    “….we are in for a long wait before anything starts for real here, along the lines of the Belfast Agreement at least.”

    This only because of the unbelievable cowardice of the SDLP. An agreed coalition could have been put in place months (if not years) ago, but the SDLP are so afraid of losing their position within the nationalist community that they are more intent on looking over their shoulders than looking for a way forward.

    Is it any wonder nationalists are losing faith in democracy in N.I., when all the have to represent them is a bunch onf criminal thungs or craven cowards?

  • Crataegus

    Warm Storage

    Best post this month.

    The basic problem is a need to face up to the truth and a bit of honesty and it is not just SF and the PIRA that need to do this. Until that happens it is going to be very difficult to make progress as we live in a fog of half truths and innuendos.

    We have a Government that seeks to mislead; a security system that has selective amnesia and various political and paramilitary organisations that are either delusional or have a collective psyche that is schizophrenic. Any wonder there is no confidience in the process?

    But let’s be positive we are going to save a lot on Assembly expenses and salaries.

    On a separate issue did any of you see the Equality Commission’s Bill Boards, with a slogan from memory which reads, “New rights for disabled pupils and students in education”. You would think they would get the wording in the right order before going to print.

  • Fenian Bastard

    The monster is alive. Just read the report, won’t take a genius to imagine the headlines. Unionism will take the following from it.

    The IRA did not disarm.
    The IRA is still involved in intelligence gathering.
    The IRA is still involved in organising riots.
    The IRA is still involved in crime.

    This is utterly ridiclous, political progress is held up by the alleged actions of “off duty” IRA. Complete insane that the peace process has been reduced to this.

  • Elvis Parker

    Yep Keith
    Durkan missed his chance previously. Will he discover his cojones now or are we to sit in limbo for ever?

  • iluvni

    ‘This only because of the unbelievable cowardice of the SDLP..’

    100% spot on.
    All the waffle of Durkan and Attwood doesn’t cover the obvious fact that the sdlp would rather hang on to the coattails of criminal Republicans than stand with the political representatives of Unionism and the Alliance party to try and make NI work.

  • Shore Road Resident

    I agree, FB. If the IRA had decommissioned as agreed by Sinn Fein, we’d be five years further on by now.
    Gerry’s ego caused the delay. Now he can suck it up at leisure.

  • Crataegus

    Keith M

    The sooner the SDLP realise that for the last decade they have been acting as a shield for SF the better. It is not SF that is suffering from the position that they are taking but the SDLP. They are protecting an organisation that would have them for breakfast and are hopelessly wed to their concepts of inclusivity which have been a major defect in the agreement.

  • After reading the full report this leak looks like it came straight from the DUP press offices…

    The glass is half empty, the glass is half empty, the glass is half empty…

  • TAFKABO

    Overall I thought it was a pretty positive report.I honestly don’t know why republicans are angry.
    The IRA have moved an awful long way in a very short time.Sure, there are a couple of areas which cause concern, and the truth is that the IRA has a history of not moving until it is pushed, so we need to keep making a fuss in regards to these areas of concern, but realistically speaking, I don’t think we could have gotten any more from the republican movement at this time.
    Speaking as a unionist, I hope Unionist politicians don’t dismiss all signs of progress out of hand.

  • Fenian Bastard

    TAFKABO. As a republican (of sorts) I am angry because huge shifts in ideology, struggles within political parties, conflicts in peoplee own historical narrative, two communities debate with their own identity and future, the role and make up of police and whether a shared identity is possible has been sidelined into whether Sean O’Provo from Provoville implictly threatened some boy racer if he did not slow down through the estate.

    It actually matters not a whit.

    Get the institutions up and running, an agreement of policing and hey presto these ‘incidents’ get dealt with in a regular fashion.

    As long as the IMC is funtioning there is no possible way they can give the A+ report card that unionism are demanding and that the Govts used to think they wanted.

  • Mickhall

    If this report is not good enough for the British government to insist the Assembly ‘government’ is up and running again, then I doubt anything will satisfy them nor their allies in the Unionist Parties.

    If the latter is the case, then SF should consider devising a new political strategy that does not repeat placing themselves in their current predicament, which to outsiders looks very much like when the British government says jump, Gerry and Martin reply “how high”. Unfair perhaps, but how many compromises can someone make when engaged in negotiations, before they lose all credibility both with those they are negotiating with and those they represent.

    Regards

    From IMC report,
    “Like an oil tanker, the organisation will take a while to turn completely, and there is likely to be added turbulence in the wash as it does so. It would not therefore surprise us if the picture at this stage, while positive overall, was somewhat mixed.

    3.16 There are a number of signs that the organisation is moving in the way it had indicated in the July statement. Although some other signs are at best neutral and a few are more disturbing, most are in a positive direction. We are of the firm view that the present PIRA leadership has taken the strategic decision to end the armed campaign and pursue the political course which it has publicly articulated. We do not think that PIRA believes that terrorism has a part in this political strategy. It has issued instructions to its members about this change of mode, and has engaged in internal consultation to support the strategy.”

  • Henry94

    Mickhall

    how many compromises can someone make when engaged in negotiations

    Nationalist want the institutions up. Unionists in the main don’t. They will use any excuse to avoid it. So we do have to eliminate their excuses.

    The report is part of the process of walking them into the institutions.

  • BogExile

    ‘The report is part of the process of walking them into the institutions.’

    Though not in the traditional republican style of handcuffed with a gun to our heads we hope 🙂

  • TAFKABO

    ‘The report is part of the process of walking them into the institutions.’

    I prefer to think of it as part of the ongoing republican housetraining project.
    We’ve got them to stop shitting on the carpet, now we just need to ensure they stop pissing in the corners.

  • BogExile

    Tafkabo: Now that’s what I call a post!

  • martin ingram

    Tafkabo,

    Quote”I prefer to think of it as part of the ongoing republican housetraining project.
    We’ve got them to stop shitting on the carpet, now we just need to ensure they stop pissing in the corners”Unquote

    You are one brave lad.

  • BogExile

    ‘Like an oil tanker, the organisation will take a while to turn completely’

    I just love this nautical analogy which has predictably been seized by those who wish to defend a killing machine which can’t quite wean itself off the power trips and sectarian blood lust which characterised so much of its nasty business.

    When it wanted to (generally when it was planning the muurder of Protestants so I accept there might be a bit of rust in the system) it has the agility of a speedboat. We have been led to believe by Republicans that PIRA is a taut and disciplined military operation. What bit of ‘stop’ is it that the glorious volunteers can’t understand?

  • Dualta

    I love this piece of utter nonsense:

    [i]”current and former PIRA members have acted in an unauthorized manner…”[/i]

    How can the leadership of the IRA be held responsible for the actions of ‘former’ members. Pure blether.

    The zero-sum game continues unabated. The pursuit of a partisan victory in this peace process will only result in its failure.

    This report lacks authority because the intelligence community cannot be trusted to act in a non-political manner.

    The sooner republicans realise that whilst the IRA exists in any form these people will exploit that fact to thwart political change.

  • BogExile

    ‘zero-sum?’

    So who would lose (apart from bank security consultants) if the IRA actually did completely wind up?

  • Another Disenfranchised Fenian

    There will be a lot of angry SF voters today.

    My father wasn’t allowed to vote by the Unionist government.

    I am allowed to vote, but the party I vote for cannot exercise the mandate I give them, due to unionist intransigence.

    Not a fenian about the place…..1922-present day. That’s the reality. Our voice will never be heard in the northern Ireland state.

    In 84 years unionists have shared power for about 12 months at assembly level and never at council level.

    Let’s push for Joint Authority or Repartition. Or let’s try to persuade some of the swing voters of the merits of a UI.

    Whatever we do, it is time to disengage from this process, as we are only legitimizing it by our efforts.

  • BogExile

    If the IRA genuinely did lie down and die and if Sinn Fein gave a genuine commitment to making the Northern Ireland institutions work – including policing there could be no viable excuse for Unionists not to re-enter the assembly and no excuse ultimatelt after a period for policing to be devolved.

    What staggers me is the utter short sightedness of the Republican movement. In the face of international pressure, they hang on to the policing argument and they dissemble about the IRA in much the same style as a drowning man reaching for a brick.

    As a Unionist I think that there are some critically important steps left for Republicans. The IRA is almost dead, why not give it the coup de grace it deserves and rely on its strong mandate to push forward and make the argument for unity from a position disinfected from a stained and futile physical force past. Surely from a strategic position that makes complete sense – back into the Whitehouse, concessions from Peter, international approval.

    Then I for one would gladly sit down with Sinn Fein. Making NI work is not antithetical to peacefully unifying the island at some future stage. That’s at the heart of the problem.

  • Cahal

    “there could be no viable excuse for Unionists not to re-enter the assembly and no excuse ultimatelt after a period for policing to be devolved”

    There will be another excuse as sure as tomorrow is a new day.

    “Then I for one would gladly sit down with Sinn Fein”

    Yes, you ‘for one’. The DUP will not. No matter how high SF jump. At this point it is degrading.

  • “We’ve got them to stop shitting on the carpet, now we just need to ensure they stop pissing in the corners.!”

    This has made my day ! 🙂

  • Yoda

    You know, it’s the superior and self-congratulatory rhetoric of animal training that will really help political matters progress.

    Well done, lads.

  • Yoda,
    Good one, brave is the man indeed, who offers a vanity mirror to the mindset you refer to.