Kildare should break link to Lisburn?

That’s the view of one member of “Athy Town Council on Wednesday, in response to recent remarks by a Lisburn Councillor. Lisburn Democratic Unionist Party member Paul Grivan had reportedly spoken dismissively of the leaders of the 1916 Rising”. Though the Leinster Leader might like to note that Lisburn is now a city; no longer a town.

  • HAHAHA… Speaking as a Kildare man Lisburn should count themselves lucky, who the hell would want to be linked with Athy!?

  • Aaron

    If they really knew the sort of attitudes there are in lisburn, they’d have broken the link before now.

  • Brian Boru

    Disgraceful and insensitive remarks by the DUPes, but not at all uncharacteristic.

  • Gum

    Lisburn a city… its gone from being funny to just plain silly!

  • Twinbrook resident since 1971

    Lisburn is a city full of anti-Catholic bigots and too the shame of the sdlp, people they have never, ever stood up to.

    Is it any wonder there is no support for the sdlp, maybe we should change the name of our new Gaelic club to suit the ex-assembly sdlp woman, come the next election!!!

  • Gerry Lvs Castro

    Fascinating insight from Councillor Paddy Wright — as is par for the course in the republic, he conveniently forgets that the 1916 Rising was supported by virtually no-one at the time — it went down like a lead balloon with the citizens of Dublin, who jeered those arrested and deplored the damage and waste of lives. It was only when the Brits started piecemeal executions that the boys of 1916 suddenly became heroes — had they been locked up or even released to the mob, they would have been a mere footnote in history. Criticism of these men is apparently out of the question in modern Ireland, though presumably it was fine at the time.
    As regards the ‘crime’ of criticising the pope, it’s difficult to know where to start on this one — let’s just say women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights and condoms and leave it at that. Paddy Wright and his chums can work it out themselves.
    Having the doubtful attribute of being a citizen of the ‘city’ of Lisburn, I can safely that the place is a depressing, entertainment-free dump, with a council intent on pouring vast amounts of money into white-elephant projects — much like any other large town in Ireland one suspects. I have no time for Lisburn council, but I would certainly defend their right (and anyone else’s for that matter) to criticise the clowns of easter 1916 and the ‘infallible’ pontiff. The sooner this island dispenses with it’s deeply flawed sacred cows the better.

  • chris

    Cllr Girvan’s offence was to return to Lisburn Council after an official trip to Kildare and, during a Full Council meeting in December, claim that he loved the place because the leaders of the 1916 rebellion were executed there.

    Of course, he was wrong. The executed republicans he referred to were actually members of the anti-Treaty IRA executed by Free State forces during the Civil War, and to whom a statue stands in Naas.

    All of the councillors in Kildare should reconsider their association with Lisburn with these incidents of unashamed bigotry in mind:

    * Cllr. Calvert’s infamous St. Paddy’s Day stroll through Seattle with a Union Jack, to the anger of his hosts. (Incidentally, Seattle have broken off links with Lisburn in the aftermath of Calvert’s visit due to his behaviour.)

    * Council’s attitude to flying union flags all year round, both at Council HQ and in ‘local community flagpoles’ (which include Dunmurry, a majority nationalist village.) Even as late as this week, Lisburn reached new depths by ignoring it’s own Equality Impact Assessment recommendations, which had recommended not flying the union jack all year round.

    * Council’s opposition to funding for nationalist districts within the city.

    *Council’s refusal to address its failure to improve workforce imbalance. A Council which is 1/3 catholic still only employs around 18% catholics- and yet it refuses even to incorporate a particular welcome for catholic applicants for job posts- standard practice in other councils.

    * Council members’ remarks about the dying Pontiff, John Paul II.

    * Council’s refusal to permit bilingual street signs in nationalist areas.

    * Council’s rejection of power-sharing and attempt to prevent councillors from even sitting on committees.

    * Offensive remarks by councillors about the Irish language and members of the gay and lesbian community.

    Of course, the list could go on, given the sheer weight of raw material produced by the gibbering bigots of Lisburn.

    I hope Kildare pulls the plug on its associations with Lisburn. Anythig else would be a slap in the face for the nationalist minority there.

  • Gerry Lvs Castro

    Chris — while I’m certainly not going to defend all of the Lisburn councillor’s actions you detail above, some of them are worth re-visiting.

    Cllr. Calvert’s exploits in Seattle, while somewhat foolhardy, were entirely justified. St.Patrick’s Day is intended as a celebration for all the people of Ireland, and the fact that close to a million of them identify with the UK flag should justify it’s inclusion in such a pageant. The Irish-American rose-tinted view of oul Ireland needs revision on this point.

    I’m still at a loss as to why flying the Union flag in part of the United Kingdom is somehow offensive.

    My understanding is that Lisburn councillors object to power-sharing with Sinn Fein. In this context they are no different from the main political parties in the republic.

    Regarding bilingual street signs, I doubt there would be any objection to the residents of the area erecting these if they so wish. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what likely action would be taken by the council if such signs were put in place.

    The ‘pontiff’ remarks have been covered previously and given the derisory number of full Irish speakers on the island as a whole, I doubt Lisburn councillor comments are likely to alter the situation.