Euro 2008 draw

Northern Ireland are in group F, with Liechtenstein, Iceland, Latvia, Denmark, Spain and Sweden.

Republic of Ireland in group D, facing Wales, Cyprus, San Marino, Slovakia, Germany and the Czech Republic.

Neither team will have to face Scotland or England, they’re in other groups.

That’s it, draw’s over, full details here.

  • Xabi Alonso

    Looking forward to playing you in Belfast. If selected, of course.

  • smcgiff

    Oh dear! 🙁

    NI got the better of it.

  • seabhac siulach

    Group D looks like being the group of death…
    Five of the teams in the group are strong contenders and fairly equally balanced ability-wise…
    Crap.
    Staunton has his work cut out.

  • slug

    Getting the excuses in early, chaps?

  • Slug,

    The excuse is “we’re shite” that should cover it…

  • Yokel

    What ye talking about, Group of Death, what a kneejerk load of cobblers. Germany is not quite the power nation it used to be and can be beaten, Czechs very good, the rest all readily beatable. Not easy but not impossible..

    As for the Northern side, harder job and no
    chance, Swedes, Danes & Spain all stronger, rest beatable.

    Study the sport you may learn something..haven’t seen England’s draw yet assume its the usual luck….

  • smcgiff

    ‘Getting the excuses in early, chaps?’

    I’ve turned my sights to 2010 already! 🙁

  • smcgiff

    ‘haven’t seen England’s draw yet assume its the usual luck….’

    Yip. Scotland, as usual, got shafted.

  • Yokel

    Just read the English draw..described as favourable by the BBC..Favourable? Favourable? They can book their tickets now…should be really cheap booking with Easyjet this far out.

  • Keith M

    Dear oh dear, the legacy of Kerr’s reign really has kicked in quickly. It’s quite possible that we could finish 5th in this group. There’s very little between the Republic of Ireland and Wales at the moment, and both are weaker than Slovakia.

  • See (some of you you) in Cardiff!

  • A great draw for Staunton. I feel bad for the Scots.

  • smcgiff

    ‘we could finish 5th in this group.’

    I’ve made this point elsewhere(There’s an elsewhere?).

    Some are saying it’s a good draw. I can’t see it, and I’m normally very much of the, ‘the glass is half full’ clan.

  • Keith M,

    What planet are you on? Its a great draw for Ireland. The Germans are beatable (espescially in front of 65,000 at Croker/. The Czechs have performed well but now have an ageing squad. Ireland will qualify from this group. We are alreadt palnning the away trips to Cardiff and Prague.

  • George

    Could have been a lot worse for the Republic of Ireland, who have never lost to the Germans in competitive football (played one, drawn one).

    The Czechs have been at the top a while and Slovakia and Wales are beatable.

    How about Group B with France, Italy and Ukraine like the Scots? That is tough.

    Nasty enough one for Northern Ireland. All strong teams, even Liechtenstein, which is the best of the minnows.

    They’ll do well to improve their pot seeding to four in this one. At least like the Republic they don’t have to go to Kazakhstan or places like that so good for the fans.

    Waxy England.

  • George

    Karel Bruckner, manager of the Czech Republic:

    “If I could, I’d ask UEFA to swap Ireland with Northern Ireland. Then I’d be happy with this draw.”

    Ouch…

  • Mike

    Having been there with the NI support in the last qualifiers, I can say Cardiff will be a great experience for any RoI fan.

    Decent enough draw for NI – we’re capable of taking points off any of those teams. I’d predict a fourth/third place finish.

    Great away trips in prospect too – a Nordic tour of Sweden, Denmark and Iceland to look forward to!

  • Hi Mike,

    I am a Republic fan was interested in what you said about Cardiff. Lets get down to the important stuff – Do they have any good lap dancing clubs ?!!

  • Mark

    We were never going to qualify regardless of the draw but we can do OK in this group. Republic and Scotland are both in trouble, as are Wales. It’s a dream draw for England – but on the whole I’m disappointed that you can look at virtually every group and pick two clear favourites, there aren’t many where you can see any more contenders.

  • Mark I would definitely dispute that the Republic are in trouble! The German coach has already held a conference pinpointing the Republic as the main threat in the group! Good times ahead for Republic fans. 65,000 at Croker for every game. Bring it on…!

  • “Lets get down to the important stuff – Do they have any good lap dancing clubs ?!!”

    MacSwiney,

    My advice is give Cardiff a miss, hold onto to your Euros for Prague and Bratislava.

    I’m talking about the cultural side of things of course;)

  • Kim Philby

    Full points against the Wales, Cyprus and San Marino.

    Unbeaten at home against the other three and get something on the road.

    That’s a reasonable target for Staunton.

  • smcgiff

    Wales will take points off of us.

  • Mark

    The Republic might do better than the North, but they still won’t qualify, which is their measure of success, whereas ours is doing better than last time. Hopefully they’ll do what we couldn’t and beat the Welsh anyway. Robbie Savage getting scythed down by Hughsie was one of the highlights of the World Cup campaign!

  • Wolfe

    If only Hitler had stopped in 1938 the draw would have been

    Greater Germany
    Ireland
    Wales
    Cyprus
    San Marino

    and we might have qualified…

  • Mike

    macswiney –

    “I am a Republic fan was interested in what you said about Cardiff. Lets get down to the important stuff – Do they have any good lap dancing clubs ?!! ”

    Saadly I never made it into any! Though Prague (en route to Vienna for the last qualifier) is a different matter, try Atlas club…so I’m told;)

    Pre match and indeed post match I would go to the Walkabout, should be plenty of Irish fans headed there and a lot of Welsh fans to have some craic with too. Sam’s which is across the road would be a good bet as well.

    The Cardiff girls do love a nice Irish fella…and I wasn’t going to start getting into a ‘political’ discussion so I went with the flow;)

  • The Devil

    Wolfe,

    What a cracking post…

  • Ziznivy

    I’m cheesed off with our group. It’s awful from the travelling point of view. Apart from Spain and Latvia nowhere will you get a pint for less than a fiver.

  • harpo

    ‘haven’t seen England’s draw yet assume its the usual luck….’

    Yip.

    smcgiff:

    How exactly have England got lucky? England’s group is much the same as NI’s group. They are 2 of the 3 normal groups in the draw – 2 WC qualifiers and a near qualifier in each.

    Would you have been happier swapping places with Macedonia? You’d still have to play 2 WC qualifiers plus Russia and Israel. Instead you play 2 WC qualifiers plus Denmark and Latvia.

    NI are as lucky as England in this draw. They both avoided groups A and B. The lucky ones in this draw are Holland – no other WC qualifiers in group G, and the better teams in group C – no WC qualifiers at all in that group.

    To be honest I’d say NI would have done better in the Scotland group. NI plays better in big games and that group would have given NI 8 of them. Maybe NI can swap with Georgia.

    As it is NI will probably beat Spain once and draw twice with Iceland.

  • Doctor Who

    Any draw for Northern Ireland is going to be a difficult one.

    The target for this one is 18 points and a couple of good away trips. I´m up for Spain, Denmark and Liechtenstein.

    Of course against Liechtenstein we have the added bonus of hearing GSTQ twice.

  • bill

    “Of course against Liechtenstein we have the added bonus of hearing GSTQ twice.”

    Do the Liechtenstein supporters shout ‘no surrender’ during their anthem ?

  • Doctor Who

    No Bill they certainly don´t.

    And a few years ago they couldn´t sing any of their anthem, this was of course in a match when they hosted ROI and their travelling bunch of “cheekie chappies”.

    Their anthem played on thier own soil was completely drowned out by boos from the dis-respectful travelling support.

    I just hope our lot don´t sing it twice.

    But who knows by that time we could have Danny Boy as our new anthem or maybe even something penned by Christy Moore.

  • bill

    I doubt if Christy is that desperate for a bit of work.

  • slug

    So when is this ROI-NI Croke Park friendly going to happen? Sanchez is up for it.

  • George

    Slug,
    I went to the last one about six years ago in Lansdowne Rd, a peace international for the victims of Omagh, and the visiting fans just used it as a vehicle to let the home fans know what they thought of them as well as a vehicle to celebrate their “Britishness”.

    All well and good on another day if you like telling people you wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire but hardly in the spirit of that specific occassion and the desperate football wasn’t worth the 18 euros I had to shell out.

    Nobody who was at that one as a gesture of friendship and piece would go again.

    However I’m sure the ROI could trundle out a stadium full of people only too happy to let the visiting fans know what they thought of them as well as a vehicle to celebrate their “Irishness”.

    But don’t call it a friendly.

  • slug

    George:

    Friendly meaning a one-off fixture.

    I’m sure it would be highly rivalrous!

    Sanchez is keen. I say, bring it on!

  • George

    Slug,
    Nobody south of the border is interested in playing an English Championship selection with a smattering of Premiership players. I would say you would be lucky to get 30,000 into Croke Park for a match against Northern Ireland.

    The players couldn’t care less either.

    Honestly, the only real rivalry that Ireland has in football is with England and their fans don’t seem able to behave themselves over here.

    Northern Ireland doesn’t even register on the radar.

  • slug

    You mentioned England:

    NI 1 – 0 England

    September 2005.

  • George

    June 12, 1988 15:07 Stuttgart

    Phyrric victories may satisfy you slug but I would much rather lose 1-0 to England and be brushing up my German for the summer.

    It’s the big stage that matters.

  • floyd

    “Honestly, the only real rivalry that Ireland has in football is with England and their fans don’t seem able to behave themselves over here.”

    Surely for a rivalry to truly exist, both sides must bear animosity to each other? As it is, the vast majority of England fans actively cheer on the Republic in international games, preferring to see Germany, Argentina and Scotland as their rivals.

    It must make bitter Republic fans seethe with rage when all their animosity directed towards England is met with a patronising pat on the head in return…

  • sam

    “It must make bitter Republic fans seethe with rage when all their animosity directed towards England is met with a patronising pat on the head in return”

    I think its more of a rivalry as exists within rugby.

    Some of us have moved on from the cancer that is so previlent within northern irish society.

    When northern ireland supporters talk about rivalry, its more to do with sectarianism and prejudice

  • Mike

    George –

    “I went to the last one about six years ago in Lansdowne Rd, a peace international for the victims of Omagh, and the visiting fans just used it as a vehicle to let the home fans know what they thought of them as well as a vehicle to celebrate their “Britishness”. ”

    A section of the visitng Fans, George. In what was a different era light years ago as far as the NI support is concerned.

    the FAI by the way didn’t show too much respect to their invited visitors either, by refusing to fly our flag or play our anthem.

    Sam

    “When northern ireland supporters talk about rivalry, its more to do with sectarianism and prejudice”

    Utter rubbish. Care to substabtiate this claim?

  • George

    Mike,
    the behaviour of visiting fans came as quite a shock as it was meant to be a family day out with all money going to the victims fund. There were children’s games beforehand and other such things.

    There were children everywhere and nobody expected abuse to be rain down.

    By the way, was any national anthem played at that game? The numbing dullness of the match seems to have impinged my memory. I don’t remember standing out of my seat once in the whole time.

  • “By the way, was any national anthem played at that game? The numbing dullness of the match seems to have impinged my memory. I don’t remember standing out of my seat once in the whole time.”

    My understanding was that the IFA and FAI didn’t play the opposition anthems at home games in some kind of unwritten agreement. Of course that was just something my father told me when I wasn’t even a teenager so it could be wrong.

  • Realist

    “The numbing dullness of the match seems to have impinged my memory.”

    Let me refresh it for you George.

    Danny Griffin scored a belter to win the game for the “wee six” 🙂

  • smcgiff

    ‘You mentioned England:

    NI 1 – 0 England

    September 2005.’

    Ireland 1 – 0 England

    March 1995.

    Although, for some reason, I can’t find an official record of the game! 😉

  • Mike and Paul,

    Thanks for your advice on the most ‘welcoming’ establishments for visting fans! Maybe it’s one thing which ROI and NI fans can unite on!

    Slug,

    As it happens Norhern Ireland did NOT draw the Republic in their group on Friday. That being so, why enter into a hypothetical debate as to what might happen at Croker if they did? It is complete madness! Concentrate on your tough group instead. PS Latvia are no pushover. I intend to plan trips to Cardiff and Prague mixing sport with pleasure…