Adams: more agents to come

Interesting statement from Gerry Adams this morning, in which he gently chides the media for dealing in tittle tattle and then promptly tells us that there is more spying revelations to come:PA reports:

Thinking republicans, he said, were resigned to the fact that there were always spies in struggles such as the one in Northern Ireland. The Sinn Féin leader said he had every confidence in his party’s negotiating team despite the revelation that Mr Donaldson was a spy.

Everything is a done deal it seems:

“Anyway what more is there to negotiate about?” the West Belfast MP asked. “The negotiations are done. What more is there to negotiate about? We have had seven years, eight years, nine years, 10 years of negotiations. What we now need to see is delivery of all of the agreements that were reached, crystallised in the Good Friday Agreement”.

And then the heads up:

By the way, you are going to hear more of this. You are going to get more alleged agents or real agents being trotted out in the time ahead. You are going to get more efforts by dissident elements within the British system to stop progress. You are going to get this seized upon by the DUP and others who are afraid of a future based on equality. What we have to be is tenacious, resilient and patient about moving all of this forward.

Sound news management perhaps: but it’s hard to see how the tittle tattle will go away after that. Although that will depend entirely on who is turning on and off the tap.

  • Paul Rea

    Chris, hope you don’t get a Scap question in your exams – you’ll fail

  • hope you don’t get a Scap question in your exams – you’ll fail

    Please tell me how Scap is likely to come up as part of my criminal process question considering the questions are not person specific

    I am not going to be asked

    Was scap a tout?

    Catch yourself on Paul!!

    As for scap I certainly have my opinions but unlike others I don’t tend to make up my mind based on the word of British intelligence.

  • The board SF people are not taken seriously
    Who?

    How can anybody be in SF and not know that Scap is a tout?

    It is not part of the entance exam. I have been in Sinn Féin long before the scap story

    It is the talk of the place

    Which place?

  • elfinto

    Chris,

    Don’t take Brit Intelligence’s word for it. Take Freddie’s own words as proof that he is a tout. See cryptome.org for the Scap tape.

    Gonzo,

    Put us out of misery with an e-mail if necessary. Out the spout!

  • alfredo

    see ‘chris gaskin’ has taken over the shift from ‘pat mclarnon’ – busy times for the sinn fein blog monitoring committee!!

  • Take Freddie’s own words as proof that he is a tout. See cryptome.org for the Scap tape

    elfinto

    I have thought he was a tout ever since his interview on UTV but I have yet to see any evidence.

  • see ‘chris gaskin’ has taken over the shift from ‘pat mclarnon’ – busy times for the sinn fein blog monitoring committee!!

    Indeed alfredo

    I thought the shift was from 7pm-12am but it was 12am-7am.

    I don’t mind, I get time and a half after 12.

  • alfredo

    ‘chris gaskin’, aka sinn fein blog committee monitor – and here was i thinking you did it for the glory of the big lad not for money – but then i suppose money is what you chucks are all about these days! except it seems the brits pay some of you more!

  • Chris,
    Have to stop you there. All the touts have not been outed. If they had the whole of the RM would have been ground to a halt. We control it!!! Can you not get your head round that??? We give the orders to your masters, they assimialte that to you, then you jump! WE control you Chris!

  • ‘chris gaskin’, aka sinn fein blog committee monitor – and here was i thinking you did it for the glory of the big lad not for money – but then i suppose money is what you chucks are all about these days! except it seems the brits pay some of you more!

    If you can’t tell that I was being sarcastic then I pity you

    II

    All the touts have not been outed

    I know

    If they had the whole of the RM would have been ground to a halt

    How do you work that out?

    We control it!!!

    ROFL!!

    Can you not get your head round that???

    No because it’s a lie

    We give the orders to your masters

    I don’t have any masters!

    they assimialte that to you

    What????????

    then you jump!

    Keep wishing!

    you never know, it might happen someday.

    WE control you Chris!

    Listen mate, you have as much control over me as as my mother has

    F*** all!!

  • paul

    Who is this mystery informer? Is he from Belfast? Has he/she been named in the media before? C’mon!!!

  • The Dubliner

    “But not to cover it would be a form of self censorship.” – Mick

    True, but no spies are being outed here. There are, on the other hand, lots of malicious rumours about informers being planted into the press and the Internet by people with associations’ with the underworld of British Intelligence such as this odious ‘Martin Ingram’ character. As a respectable journalist, I know you are not arguing that an ‘official outing’ such as Denis Donaldson (which it is right and proper to cover as a story) equates in any meaningful way with a rumour planted in the press by such as the above. That would render the fundamental difference between unsubstantiated rumour and proven fact null and void, and the media utterly worthless as a source of legitimate information.

    Now, there is also the issue here of the nature of the agenda that is being served. If that agenda is to destabilise the republican movement to such an extent that it splits or splinters into violent factions who believe the IRA was controlled by the British and that they were sold out by their leadership, then the obvious result of that is an increase in support for other active republican paramilitaries and a gradual return to the armed conflict. That keeps Sinn Fein out of government and Martin Ingram and his cohorts in business, but it does so at the unacceptable price of putting citizens into their graves.

    If that is actually the agenda that is being served by these informer rumours (Gerry and Martin sold you out) and the very active campaign of disinformation around it, then journalists need to ask themselves if they are unwittingly (or otherwise) acting as agents to convey this hidden and murderous agenda to an unwary public.

    There is nothing new in this propaganda war or in where it leads. Journalists have seen it all before, so they don’t even have ignorance as an excuse this time around.

    “What is being played out here is the very opposite of what is intended to happen.” – Pat

    Well, it doesn’t help that ‘Martin Ingram’ is turning up for ‘work’ drunk and transparently deploying the tactics he outlined as ‘Jack Grantham,’ thereby unwittingly giving a large part of his own informer rumour planting game away even to an amateur observer of northern politics such as myself.

    Commentary: “You said one of the tactics that FRU actually used was to give information which would lead the IRA to believe that a certain person was an informer within their own ranks.”

    Jack Grantham replies: “Yes, by using your own agents to sow those seeds and from small acorns grow.”

    Anyway, I posted the passage in italics below last month on DannyMorrison.com to a stony silence. I make no judgement who ‘Stakeknife’ is, as ‘innocent until proven guilty’ still has some meaning. However, this issue isn’t going to go away for the republican movement. Unless they face up to it proactively, then ingeniously fabricated story after ingeniously fabricated story is going to be spun from it by anti-republicans elements who couldn’t give a flying fuck about the facts.

    But what of Stakeknife? Is it any wonder that Denis Donaldson went undetected for 20 years when the head of the IRA’s anti-informer division was himself an informer in the control of the securocrats? What of the 40 or so victims of Stakeknife? How many of them were simply loyal republicans that the securocrats wanted killed? It’s highly unlikely that the securocrats would allow Stakeknife to diminish their supply of genuine informers, isn’t it? What of those higher than Stakeknife…how could they not have had suspicions that something was amiss when so many families of those murdered by his “nutting squad” insisted that their loved one was not an informer? What of those who worked alongside Stakeknife? Why did they allow these executions of alleged informers when there could have been no valid evidence of their guilt?

    There is a lot to be answered by all sides in this whole squalid underworld of “spies.”

    http://www.dannymorrison.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37095&postcount=12

  • SlugFest

    Gonzo,

    Re: the latest informer in ‘today’s paper’ — what paper??? Is there anything online? I’m in New York, so i’ve only got access to NI news via the internet.

    Do tell … please.

  • The Devil

    Chris Gaskin,

    This exam that your doing Chris is it really that easy or are you so stunningly brilliant at everything that even though you are “knee deep in the middle of lecture notes” because you are studying for exams….

    You still managed to continually read Sluggers updated posts and reply a total of 17 times, that’s right SEVENTEEN times between 7.25pm and after midnight… Wow you must have a lot of female qualities being able to multi task like that.

    You also bragged about “answering difficult questions on this forum long before a certain Mr M. Ingram arrived and will do so long after he’s gone” Well you may have thought you answered them but the rest of us didn’t, according to Mr Martin these agents delude themselves….hmmm is there something you wish to share with us chris.

  • The devil

    This exam that your doing Chris is it really that easy

    It isn’t easy

    are you so stunningly brilliant at everything that even though you are “knee deep in the middle of lecture notes” because you are studying for exams….

    You still managed to continually read Sluggers updated posts and reply a total of 17 times, that’s right SEVENTEEN times between 7.25pm and after midnight

    I prefer the stunningly brilliant bit myself but as my computer is in my room along with my lecture notes I can do both at the same time.

    It really isn’t that difficult

    You also bragged

    Not a brag, just an admission of fact

    Well you may have thought you answered them but the rest of us didn’t

    You have no authority to speak for “the rest of us”

    according to Mr Martin these agents delude themselves….hmmm is there something you wish to share with us chris

    Nothing at the moment

    Always a pleasure Devil

  • The Dubliner

    “Well you may have thought you answered them but the rest of us didn’t, according to Mr Martin these agents delude themselves…” – The Devil

    Who appointed you as the official spokesperson for “the rest of us”? By the way, if you want a definition of “deluded,” don’t ask Walter Mitty to give i to you.

    And Chris, go to bed. Isn’t it after 3am over there? Your shift is over. 😉

  • I just have a few hours of the shift left to go 😉

  • The Devil

    He can’t go to bed Dubliner he’s staying awake to get the early morning paper to see if it is himself that’s named………….

    Scap did the same thing……..

  • The Devil

    Hey Dubliner,

    Just read your post about journalistic ethics or codswallop like that try doing your same post including…..

    State collusion
    Shoot to kill
    Dirty tricks
    The Committee

    the list goes on
    i’m getting bored already
    just realised your a hypocrite
    and your post is idiotic
    blah blah blah
    i’m off to bed
    to dream of gorgina

  • Slooperdooper

    I rather like the idea that we’re going to see more rocky times for the rebs. The big picture here is: it can do damage to the Shinners, but probably not to the government since it will be ‘of the past’.

    One thing we can be sure of; the barely coherent moron Gerry Kelly won’t be the informer.

  • The Dubliner

    The Devil, thanks for the Japanese poem. Is it haiku and senryu?

  • Crataegus

    It would be naive to think there were not more spies in SF and the UUP, DUP, SDLP etc. Rumours and innuendos; it all seems very tacky and destabilising. The spies are financed by the State so the question is what is the Government’s game plan? If it has one is it working, for right at the minute there is very little of this that makes coherent sense?

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Slooperdooper

    Don’t be silly. He’s from nowhere near Belfast.

  • Paul Rea

    Chris, maybe the securocrats have set the exam paper just to cause SF students to fail so that they won’t be suitably qualified to get the good jobs and then the unionists can legally discriminate. You miss the plot. Maybe you are not a real Shinner and are just a post ceasfire one. But sure they don’t count.

  • Paul Rea

    Chris, West Belfast. It is not hidden by SF on the ground who think Scap is a disgrace to his family , movement and community. The only one it is hidden from is you. Now why do you think that is?

  • Paul Rea

    Devil, that is unfair to Chris, suggesting he is staying up to see if he is the tout being named in the papers. Chris is not a tout. Touts need to know something to tout on. But sure he doesn’t even know Scap is a tout.

  • Mick, I think that you should stop the hypocrisy that you are not engaging in censorship on your site. I have now had four posts out of my 10 or so refused on the false ground that I did not match the code word – what I carefully made sure I did, and your denial notice failed to explain each time.

    My last post concerned the connection between the assassination of Olof Palme and the increasing spiral of violence in Northern Ireland which the peace process has proven unable to resolve because of the deepest covert actions which almost annihilated us all in early March 1986.

  • elfinto

    Well, still no word of this alleged tout. No mention either of what newspaper has the story. It’s certainly on noe of the new sites I have looked at this morning.

    Gonzo
    It looks like you’ve been taking us for a ride.

  • Kim Philby

    Trowbridge H. Ford

    I have now had four posts out of my 10 or so refused on the false ground that I did not match the code word – what I carefully made sure I did

    That’s happened to me a few times but if I go out of the site and come back in I can post without a problem. I’m sure it’s just a glitch.

    What’s amazing is how often the code-word is relevant to the post. But I’m sure that’s just coincidence.

  • THF:

    That would be a technical matter. Is anybody else exeriencing Trowbridge’s problem? I’ve had one reader email me with exactly the same problem. It would be helpful to know to what extent it is happening and to look into what we can do about it.

    Fintan,

    No sign of the spy story yet:

    http://news.google.com/news?q=spy+sinn+fein&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-41,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=nn&oi=newsr

    Gonzo?

  • Since my last rejected post was to you, and you are apparently around, I want to say that it was about the increasingly spiral of violence that the use of Captain James Rennie – apparently Olof Palme’s assassin – in helping the FRU and ‘Steak Knife’ capture the Eksund at the expense of William Graham, the Loughgall volunteers and Rennie himself is where it all started.

    Then, the need of protecting ‘Steak Knife’ resulted in the killing of Francisco Notarantonio, and at the expense of the UDA’s John McMichael.

    Now the daughter of Anthony McKiernan, another innocent down the road, is contending that he was killed by Scap ‘Stake Knife’ on January 18, 1988 since he was scheduled to have a meeting with Freddie that night. The Brits would like us to believe that Freddie was not only the most important tout but he also advertised his handiwork before he performed it.

    Looks to me, however, that someone higher up – I wonder who – was trying to make Freddie the fall guy for his handiwork.

    This is the “new” outing we have all been told about, and we will just have to let it go at that.

  • The Dubliner

    “If it has one is it working, for right at the minute there is very little of this that makes coherent sense?” – Crataegus

    Oh, it makes sense. Martin Ingram ‘turned’ back to his employers and is using his botched position as ‘honest whistleblower’ to further a particular agenda. A black propagandist (google it) is someone who poses as promoting the interests of one side on a conflict, but is actually promoting the interests of the other side. Ergo, Martin Ingram poses an “Irish Nationalist” and “Man of Truth and Decency” in-order to spread his manure. The lie is more credible when your own side are saying it… and a lie works better with a little bit of truth added in. That part is how he manages to confuse people about his motives. But then, that’s why black propaganda can be an effective technique. And in fairness to them, the Brits turned propaganda into a science during WW2.

    The only tune that plays on his whistle now is what his master’s tell him to play. 😉

  • jazzone

    Here he is…this just in from the Impartial Reporter

    A Sinn Fein election worker in Fermanagh has admitted being a paid police Special Branch agent for over 20 years. Sean Lavelle, from Donagh, Lisnaskea, says he was recruited in the early ’80s.

    A republican source dismissed the revelation as “no big deal”, while the PSNI said it would continue to use “every lawful means” to protect the community.

    In a short statement issued through his solicitor, Mr. Frank McManus, veteran republican Sean Lavelle said he had been pressurised into becoming a Special Branch agent after being arrested in 1980. He said: “I deeply regret my activities and the hurt which they have caused to my family and to my community.”

    Reacting to Mr. Lavelle’s statement, the Sinn Fein MLA Thomas O’Reilly said: “I’m not particularly surprised by such a revelation.” Describing it as a “sort of coming out,” he said: “It’s long been clear that Special Branch and these agencies have cajoled and pressurised and blackmailed people into working for them over the years.

  • SlooperDooper

    Best thing might be to draw up a list of half-sentient crayon-writing, mouth breathing cretins in the Republican Movement (TM) who couldn’t be a Brit Informer.

  • SD:

    Cut the man playing…

  • SlooperDooper

    I would have thought, taken in the context of the discussion, that my last post was anything but playing the man. However, in the context of the argument (which did stray somewhat overnight), you’re right.

    I simply think it’s mildly amusing to suddenly see the intelligence infiltration in SF beginning to come out. But a warning to Unionists; this could as equally be an attempt to create an un-realised expectation of massive infiltration, in order to disappoint those outside SF.

  • martin ingram

    DUB

    The only tune that plays on his whistle now is what his master’s tell him to play. 😉

    Dream on

  • Glen Taisie

    Adams Knew !!!!!

    .

  • George

    “The troubles with Georges analysis is that he starts from the premise that it was the Brits who prosecuted the war. It wasn’t, it was the Provos”

    TAFKABO,
    I never said that. I said Britain managed to turn something that wasn’t a war, the civil rights campaign, into something that was a war, the Provo campaign.

    I believe that if the demands of the Civil Rights movement had been promptly met, there would have been no Provo campaign and it was within the remit of the British government to deliver on this. It didn’t.

    If you believe that the Provo campaign would have happened with the same ferocity even if all the demands of the Civil Rights movement had been met by 1969, then your analysis holds true.

    Personally, I believe my analysis, that this could all have been avoided if the British state grasped the Civil Rights nettle immediately, to be the more accurate one.

    What happened post 1969 and who was the driving force behind the war, is a different discussion.

  • elfinto

    Lavelle – small fry – Lough Erne – concrete boots

  • elfinto

    Credit to Gonzo for getting it right. What an anti-climax though. Who outside of Fermanagh has ever heard of this guy?

  • martin ingram

    Sean Lavelle, was no small fry Elfinto a well respected IRA man. He was mates with Seanie Lynch and wife Oonagh, Charlie Caulfield and the gorgeous Kathleen Gleeson. Seamus Mc etc

    This boy in the eighties was the dogs bollocks of an average Agent.

    Well done SB did not know you had HIM, but well done. I worked in Enniskillen for a number of years targetting this area, he was a good catch. I take my hat off lads to you, on this occassion well done.

    Martin

  • Paul Rea

    Lavelle – a sign of what is to come. Adams will not be too bothered about that – it will help take the sting out of the rural acusations that all the touts are in Belfast and Sri Lanka. Lavelle, low level Shinner with a long sad history of alcohol abuse. He might be more of an embarrassment to his family (some of whom are senior RSF)than to SF. The problem is that it is part of the trend of these people being outed which causes SF grassroots to feel embarrassed

  • elfinto

    A Google search turned up no matches for Sean Lavelle AND fermanagh OR lisnaskea OR donagh.

    He was obviously either very low profile or very deep cover!

  • Ringo

    George –

    Where is unionism/loyalism in your analysis? In under the heading ‘Britain’?

    I don’t think that London was even really in a position to deliver sufficiently on the civil rights in NI – after all, Irish people weren’t marching for their civil rights in Coventry or Kilburn (I know there was some discimination there too). The likes of Paisley would have done in 1969 what they did in 1974 if London had attempted to force change upon them.

  • George

    Ringo,
    The forces of Unionism/Loyalism which ran Northern Ireland could have been faced down by the British state in the 1960s. Of course there would have been a price to pay.

    I amn’t privy to the security analyses of the time but I reckon the British (who always work in self interest) figured it would be easier to crush/control/contain any Catholic/Nationalist/Republican uprising than a Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist one.

    Therefore propping up the ruling unionist order and taking on the nationalist backlash was seen as the lesser of two evils. Perhaps they didn’t see the Provos coming. After all, they had been ruling the place from a distance from decades.

    Perhaps they did and figured they were manageable. Better than seeing the impoverished south fighting to maintain stability in the unionist maelstrom, which could lead anywhere. Better to engage in a conflict you know you can control and which you know you won’t lose if you maintain your will.

    Whatever the thinking, it doesn’t take away the fact, in my opinion, that if the British state had forced the civil rights issue on the unionist state and the unionist people that there wouldn’t have been a Provo campaign.

    Sure there might have been a UVF campaign twice as ferocious and twice as bloody as the Provo one.

    But it would have been as doomed to failure as the Provo campaign and would have brought us to where we are today.

    There was never going to be a situation where a unionist majority would be bounced into a united Ireland.

    No amount of UVF or Provo killing would have led to that. The best they could have got was re-partition.

    My only concern is that the virtual civil war (which is what NI verged on at times) hasn’t resolved the issue as the southern one did here. There has been no clear winner just losers.

    Ironically if there is one winner in all this, it’s the Republic whose population is now totally reconciled to a peaceful relationship with Britain, regardless of partition.

    “Unity by consent or not at all” is the universal mantra in the Republic these days. The armchair militant republicans, of which there were many, are dead and gone.

  • kate

    George,

    From your comments above do you think the official IRA was correct in 1972 to ‘continue its struggle by other means?’ Isn’t that what the provisionals are doing now anyway? The officials got no where towards continuing their struggle even when they gave up the violence, and the provisionals have got no where in their campaign, are you grasping at straws and saying if they’d left the civil rights campaign alone they’d have got further along in civil and human rights than we are now?

    Was it really the fault of the British that a sectarian war put a barrier on civil rights and their progress??

    Or do you see it differently? Your point of view is interesting.

  • George

    Kate,
    I don’t know how an organisation, which believes in the use of military force to bring about the end of British rule in Ireland, can suddenly decide not to use military force and still believe it can exist in the same form.

    To me, it would be logical for the Officials to have ceased to exist when they made that decision just like the Provos should cease to exist now.

    The GFA removed their 2nd Dail “mandate” anyway, which was probably one of the points of it.

    Were they right to do it? Morally and from my point of view of course not.

    But I am neither an Official nor a Provo. I also say that having been brought up in South County Dublin. I don’t know what I would have thought if I was brought up in North Belfast.

    For them as a movement with their goals, who knows if it is or was the right thing? You’d have to ask them.

    “are you grasping at straws and saying if they’d left the civil rights campaign alone they’d have got further along in civil and human rights than we are now?”

    I’m saying that if it was clear to nationalists from early on that the British state was going topple unionist hegemony, by lethal use of state force if necessary, the Provos would never been able to launch the ferocious campaign they did.

    The movement would never have got off the ground. The movement was not created in a vacuum, lying in the long grass, waiting for its chance to unleash the dogs of Republican war on an unwitting public.

    It got its power from the resentment, feelings of hopelessness and hunger for change among nationalists.

    “Was it really the fault of the British that a sectarian war put a barrier on civil rights and their progress??”

    I’m not blaming the British (unless you blame them for being there in the first place) because everyone is at fault.

    The Irish government and the southern populace for being moral and political cowards, the British for being brutal, ignorant and selfish, the unionists for refusing to share power and using unbridled state violence to maintain their control, the nationalists for allowing their community to wed itself to unbridled Provo violence as a means of achieving its goals.

    Many in Northern Ireland today want to create a hierarchy of blame. This will only be used by one side to absolve itself of fault while blaming the other. They are all kopping out.

    Change had to happen in Northern Ireland. When it didn’t come it exploded. Imposing the change might have caused a bigger explosion.

    Despite the risk, imposing the change was the right thing to do (in hindsight it’s easy to say that).

    Either way, the bomb has gone off and we are all sitting around the crater dodging the fallout and wondering what to do next.

    We are also hoping there isn’t another unexploded bomb just under the surface.

    Away from my computer till Monday but will look in then.
    Rgds,
    George

  • The Dubliner

    “In my experience every Agent recruited is responsible for approx five more recruits.” – Martin Mitty

    So, in your parallel universe, an informer chooses to act as a recruiting sergeant for the FRU knowing full well that any such effort by him would blow his cover and lead to his certain death. He does this, presumably, because his loyalty to SB/FRU is greater than his loyalty to his own skin. Indeed, the micks are so thick that an informer can successfully recruit “at least” five other informers out of the hundreds he attempts recruit without ever giving the slightest hint of any impropriety. Did you actually work with informers or was your role just an army office clerk? You are becoming increasingly detached from reality, Mr. Mitty.

    “If you take the UK Coal miners strikes of the eighties, this was a very difficult nut for the police to crack. The close togetherness of the miners was difficult to penetrate,the police have gone on the record to praise the total integrity of this strike. Even today some communities are still resentful of the police , this level of feeling was not replicated in NI.” – Martin Mitty

    Yes, Martin, it’s well-known that republicans embraced the RUC and regarded them as defenders of their community, so your argument is transparently in full accordance with the facts. It’s also well known that informers are not reviled, but are, in fact, celebrated members of the local community, so it’s wholly consistent with the actual facts to state that republicans “stopped you on the streets and gave you information.”

    Now, Martin, since you controlled the IRA, shouldn’t you be apologising to the British for all the trouble you caused? I mean, for heaven’s sake man, why did you blow up those lovely office buildings in Canary Wharf?

  • The Dubliner

    Whoops! I meant that last post for the other ‘informer’ thread. Sorry.

  • martin ingram

    The Dubliner,

    You see you like the Republican movement dont underdstand the basics of Intelligence, that is why you lost and was infiltrated for so long. Have you ever seriously asked yourself why the Intenal security unit of the Ra was not rotated?.When you are running an Agent he or she can be used in many roles one in certainly talent spotting or indeed recruiting .You have a lot learn my friend and very little time left. Game set and match.

    “So, in your parallel universe, an informer chooses to act as a recruiting sergeant for the
    FRU knowing full well that any such effort by him would blow his cover and lead to his certain death. He does this, presumably, because his loyalty to SB/FRU is greater than his loyalty to his own skin. Indeed, the micks are so thick that an informer can successfully recruit “at least” five other informers out of the hundreds he attempts recruit without ever giving the slightest hint of any impropriety. Did you actually work with informers or was your role just an army office clerk? You are becoming increasingly detached from reality, Mr. Mitty.”

    Martin Ingram.

    As regards Spies recruiting other spies. Ever heard of the Cambridge Spy ring?.Thought not. Quote”micks are so thick” Unquote Once in a while you come up with a gem.

  • Kathy_C

    Hi all,

    I think the Sinn Fein leadership has failed miserably.

    Sinn Fein has a lot to say about other political parites and their faults.. It is time the president of SF looks at his party and admits it’s faults…..

    I find it quite ‘ballsy’ that adams had sf put up on ebay auction the listen devise that mo mowlan had put in adams and mcguiiness car when they were going to speak to the IRA…photo ops…the whole big thing….and then with the spy donaldson….what was the sf statement….something like…..’we advised him/donaldson…to get an attorney.’

    EXCUSE ME>>>>>>the advised donaldson to get an attorney….I would have told him….get the f*** out of here NOW….and then I would have gone to my attorneys to see if sf as a politcal party or members of the party could sue the pants off that spy and totally destroy him financially, socially.

    Gerry adams should resign.