Change to OTR legislation in the offing?

On the face of it even the Blair government was taken aback at the ferocious scrutiny that the OTR legislation. But the Telegraph reckons there could be a way back for it when it faces scruntiny and amendment in the House of Lords. Time limits and personal appearances may be the minimum level of change required.

  • Here’s an idea for amendment to the OTR legislation: scrap it altogether. This is what the SDLP demanded from day one, and what everyone has realised is the best option.

    Maybe Spin Féin will think again next time before colluding and doing dirty side-deals with the British. A repeat performance of their OTR comedy performance (for comedy, read comedy of errors) would certainly spell electoral disaster for them, and erode any modicum of trust which nationalists may still have in them.

  • Belfastwhite

    Dream on El Matador the SDLP have been finished since they procured UDA votes to unseat Gerry Adams and they Clearly jumped too soon on the PSNI.

  • Daisy

    “the SDLP have been finished since they procured UDA votes to unseat Gerry Adams”

    Is this a reference to Joe Hendron winning the seat in 1992? It doesn’t appear to have unduly damaged them (apart from in west Belfast) in the following years.

    “and they Clearly jumped too soon on the PSNI.”

    That will be up to the electorate to decide in the next elections. The SDLP managed to hold off the expected onslaught from SF last time, so I wouldn’t be too quick to write them off just because you’re not a fan.

  • Belfastwhite

    Aye Daisy we will see I was just reminding el mat that the Stoopers are throwing stones in glass houses when they mention dirty deals.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    El M,

    Why are the SDLP afraid to take on the PSNI over the leaking of the details of 400 Belfast republicans? This happened while the SDLP sat on the Policing Board. The SDLP told us they were going to hold the PSNI to account and that is why they joined the board.

    Maybe the SDLP are going to wait 20 years until the memory fades a bit and then try and convince us they were concerned about this act of collusion all along.

    Daisy,

    It doesn’t appear to have unduly damaged them (apart from in west Belfast) in the following years.

    Except for Newry and Armagh where the SDLP vote has collapsed. Also not to mention West Tyrone or indeed Fermanagh and South Tyrone. Or the significant in roads made in Derry and South. That also reminds of the SDLP now being seriously outstrpped in Upper Bann and North Belfast. East Derry and North Antrim fare no better.

    But apart from that you are perfectly correct.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    (Derry & South Down)

  • Daisy

    Pat, when I said “SDLP managed to hold off the expected onslaught from SF last time”, I was referring to the last election (the General Election). The SDLP managed to hold 3 seats, even though they were widely predicted (mainly by SFers) to hold only one.

    It remains to be seen how they will fare next time. However, it will also be interesting to see whether SF has been damaged by all the recent shenanigans. I wouldn’t write anyone off just yet.

  • I notice the provos posters on this thread have conveniently forgotten to mention OTR legislation (the subject of this thread) once. Quelle surprise!

    We even have Belfastwhite making bizarre claims about the 1992 General Election and some sort of weird alliance. Would this by the same UDA that stabbed Belfast SDLP councillor Senator Paddy Wilson, and his girlfriend Irene Wilson to death? Talk sense, you fool!

  • Apologies,

    Irene Andrews. Typo.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    The subject of the thread is of course the OTR legislation and according to any Stoop within earshot of a microphone, especially Durkan, the OTR legislation goes to the heart of collusion.

    Most nationalists recognise this as cynical opportunism from an organisation that refused to meet the relatives of the victims of collusion when invited to at Stormont.
    The most recent major incident of collusion was the passing of the details of 400 people from Castlereagh to unionist paramilitaries.

    The failure by the SDLP to confront the PSNI over their intial lying and their failure to inform the 400 people involved is clear evidence that the SDLP has no real interest in getting to the bottom of collusion as it now exists.

    The failure by the SDLP to confront the PSNI over this incident is also an indictor that they lied when they stated they were going on the Policing Board to hold the PSNI to account. Either they are unable, or even worse, unwilling to confront Orde et al. Either way they are despicably transparent. Worried about collusion? Next thing they’ll be telling us they are republicans.

  • finn

    Pat any fule nows that the SDLP are republicans in Monday, Nationalists on Tuesdays and Thursdays and Post Nationalist on Wednesdays and Fridays

  • El Mat

    reading your first post one would be forgiven for thinking that the SDLP politicians were the only people opposed to this from the start.

  • DerryTerry

    El Mat, Here’s an idea for amendment to the OTR legislation: scrap it altogether. This is what the SDLP demanded from day one, and what everyone has realised is the best option.

    How does this admirably unequivical position rest with Mark Durkan’s comments in the Belfast telegraph on Wednesday 7th December, “that he could reluctantly accept the OTRs deal but not security forces being added into the package.?”

    He even went on, “Given that the deal was specifically for OTRs – i see no problem with holding the Government to the original promises of this agreement. I may not like it, but if the Government say those are the grounds on which they are honour bound, he could accept it. The security forces were not in the original deal.”