Interesting twist in Bank investigation…

It seems that one of the two men arrested was Chris Ward, the bank official who’s family was apparently detained in the Northern Bank robbery whilst he was ordered to take out the money for the robbers. Curiouser and curiouser.

  • DaithiO

    Oh dear oh dear,

    What will be the political fallout if it is proved that the Provos had nothing to do with the raid when so many people stated as fact that they were ?

    What if the poitical establishment and the mainstream press was shown to have been duped by a young, non-aligned lad from Poleglass and his workmates ?

    The mind boggles !

  • Lonely Pint

    Er… Or could it be that he might (allegedly) be the insider?

    We do not know, nor can say for certain unless and until charges are brought and the law takes its course.

    😉

  • yerman

    DaithiO
    What you say is possible. However its equally possible that it was an IRA raid. What do all the Shinner fans say then. All their protestations and claims of innocence go out the window.

    Lets see where the investigation points shall we.

  • BogExile

    ‘a young, non-aligned lad from Poleglass and his workmates’

    I nearly lost my breakfast on this one. There is, just maybe an alternative thesis – that this ‘non-aligned’ person from a staunchly republican area may have colluded with republican paramilitaries. I think this would be slightly less surprising than if perhaps they managed to persuade, say, Sammy Wilson to leave the padlocks off.

    Time and time again, when paramilitary crimes are committed in this benighted place, it is with the collusion of sympathisers.

    But, hey, lawyers, everyone’s innocent until released on amnesty! Right?

  • Like I said, curiouser and curiouser.

  • Henry94

    yerman

    However its equally possible that it was an IRA raid. What do all the Shinner fans say then. All their protestations and claims of innocence go out the window.

  • Carnhill

    Doubt that there’ll ever be any admissable evidence in this case unless someone cracks under questioning – seems that the RUC may well be getting closer to the truth, but more likely than not any evidence they do have (phone-taps etc) will be inadmissable. Grasping at straws I think. No money recovered, (well none that can be definitely linked to the raid), almost a year gone by since the raid = 0 chance of convictions. May as well just give up the ghost and move on !

  • Padraig

    Carnhill, how are ‘the RUC getting closer to the truth’ when the RUC have been replaced by the PSNI?

    Freudian slip?

  • Carnhill

    RUC / PSNI – I think we’re best not gettin into that one, eh ! Suffice to say it’ll be a while until many of us believe that the RUC has totally ‘ gone away ‘ if ye pardon the expression 🙂

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    If Chris Ward has been arrested, then this shows the PSNI really are grasping at straws.

  • Shore Road Resident

    Will that be the official Daily Ireland line?

    If Chris Ward has been arrested it just means that Chris Ward has been arrested. Likewise if he is shortly released. An investigation of this magnitude and complexity could involve lifting hundreds of people, all of them bar the last few completely innocent.

    Quite a few people around here who think they are journalists could do with a legal refresher course.

  • seannaboy

    I should have known when this item was on the 7.30 news on Radio Ulster this mornnig.Brit Intelligence / RUC PSNI Branch / Securocrats / Politicos fed a ‘line’ ( past masters of it, look at any situation over the last thirty years or more) and we end up with all the outrageous disgraceful comments, like some of the ones on this thread. It would be funny IF it was not so dangeous to the people who have ONLY been arrested this morning. If you ask me ( and I know many of you will not) but the hiiden hand still rules policing here.

  • fair_deal

    If Chris Ward has been arrested, then this shows the PSNI really are grasping at straws.

    On what basis do you make that assertion? How does that prove the PSNI are grasping at straws?

  • martin

    It would be a right laugh if a group of small time/ once off criminals pulled of the most gigantic robbery in Ireland ever–and all the so called security experts were seen to have been talking through their rears–

    I can just see Michael Mc Dowell and the Sindo giving statements like –ward is a definite PIRA member sure his great,great,great ,great ,great grandfather read one of Robert Emmetts proclaimations

    —Sindo poll 82% believe Ward is leader of ultra violent left wing faction of PIRA opposed to the peace process 1.5% don’t know and the other 16.5% polled turned out to be illegal assylun seekers come to fleece the Free State’s social welfare system

  • Shore Road Resident

    A wheelie bin full of money in Cork says the inside-job-only theory will only make even bigger eejits of the provo apologists floating it.

  • seannaboy

    Question: Since when has it been PSNI policy to announce details of arrests within one hour of those arrests being made? Makes you think, doesn’t it?

  • martin

    Here’s one for you—suppose you are a bank employee who comes in after a large group of men have just cleaned out loads of dosh–would anyone be tempted to dip in a little for yourself –consider 26 million already gone–but theres still open safes with a fair bit left lying around after the main raiders had scarpered–What would a trivial amount like 50,000 or so be between friends ????

    Would any of you be ever so teensy weensy bit tempted ???????

  • Shore Road Resident

    Seannaboy – anything that makes you think is fine by me.

  • BogExile

    DIRELAND NEWS RELEASE:

    PSNI TO BE REARMED WITH STRAWS:

    The Human wrongs unit of the PSNI have revealed that in response to political pressure from now on officers on duty will have their pistols with drawn and replaced with straws.

    We have to admit that the best way of reducing crime in Northern Ireland today is to grasp at straws said spokesman, Inspector Hugh J’Arse. By issuing straws to all officers to clutch we will bypass the expensive and contentious problems with actually bringing terorists, gangsters and anti-social spides to justice and instead replace good police work with arbitrary guesswork.’

    There are signs that the policy is already working. This morning, Detectives raided Enniskillen Cathedral and Arrested the Bishop of Clougher in connection with the 1963 Great Train Robbery. Ian Paisley has also been arrested on suspicion of murdering himself next Tuesday.

    ENDS

  • seannaboy

    Shore Road Resident
    Maybe i should ah just like ah believe everyfing wots on the news, like ah cos like ifs its in the news like it gotta be troo like, wot you fink?

  • Brian Boru

    Looks suspicious but maybe he was in the PIRA. Otherwise its a PSNI plot.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    To take a middlin’ approach, its is entirely possible that it was an inside job, but PIRA became involved after the fact (money-laundering, etc.) If we wants to discuss the possibilities, then we could go on forever.

    If (and I stress *IF* — arrested is not convicted) Mr. Ward was truly part of the criminal enterprise, a few things are explained, such as the foolish stealing of the brand new, completely uncirculated bills that were a) still in the original shrink-wrap and, thusly, could readily be traced, since, as new bills, the serial numbers would a sequential, giving the PSNI at least an approximate start and stop of the series of bills stolen. Given the much ballyhooed “professionalism” of PIRA in the fine art of bank robbery, this was the part that bothered me — the take was too much, too traceable and demanded way too much of an official response.

  • martin

    When all the traceable stuff was accounted for–how much of it now is worth anything ?

  • seannaboy

    I wonder what the Littlejohn brothers (or their friends or their handlers or whatever) are doing this weather? Are they alive? Are they writing their memoirs? Are they passing on their, ahem, expertise? Are they training in the fine art of bank robbing? Who knows?

  • seabhac siulach

    In the absence of hard facts let us look at what little we do know…

    The one and only place where actual traceable money from the robberies was found was in a PSNI leisure centre. Dealing with this fact, then we have to assume logically that the PSNI or someone attached to it was involved (unless the PSNI centres have very lax security, allowing unknown people to wonder in from the street with wads of freshly stolen cash).

    This little fact has been conveniently airbrushed out of the picture, I notice, in most media reports on the robbery.

    There has yet to be any link made to the money found in Cork (forensic or otherwise), despite wishful thinking on the parts of many…
    There have been some statements from the Garda Commissioner Conway stating that he is certain that the money was from the raid. Without mentioning any proof, whatsoever, we are expected to just believe his word.
    After 12 months of hard trying, there has yet to be any link made by the Gardai with the money being laundered in Cork. It is likely that the IRA was laundering money in Cork, etc., but not money from the Northern bank raid. If there was a link, do you think that they would be slow to reveal it?

    It all stinks…

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Martin: “When all the traceable stuff was accounted for–how much of it now is worth anything ? ”

    The new bills, with their wonderfully traceable serial numbers, are not worth the paper their printed on. Potentially the old currency could have been traded in, although it would have had to been traded in either small lots or under a big cover, but the new specie is worthess, since it couldn’t be exchanged for new scrip.

  • Lonely Pint

    This speculation and supposition and what-have-ye is great craic. In fact, the Northern Bank job has inspired the most intriguing, entertaining, and downright hilarious threads on Slugger for some time.

    I don’t know who did what, when or how – but at the time I thought it was definintely the work of the provisional IRA. Now, now… hmmmm…. They were involved in some way – but how… That’s the thing.

  • martin

    Could it have been a combination of a sizeable number of PIRA men working on their own,corrupt cops and bank staff aligned with a number of non-paramilitary ordinary decent criminals–say about 30 people all together

  • Shore Road Resident

    All we can say for sure is that IRA was involved at some point – because Gerry Adams has conspicuously failed to categorically rule it out.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Lonely Pint: “I don’t know who did what, when or how – but at the time I thought it was definintely the work of the provisional IRA. Now, now… hmmmm…. They were involved in some way – but how… That’s the thing. ”

    IOW, who cares what “the truth” is, so long as its a politically palatable and socially acceptable truth that dovetails politely with your political beliefs?

    Martin: “Could it have been a combination of a sizeable number of PIRA men working on their own,corrupt cops and bank staff aligned with a number of non-paramilitary ordinary decent criminals–say about 30 people all together?”

    Could be, but it’s a real longshot. Honestly, it’s much too large of a mob scene. The chance of recruiting either an idiot or an informer grows exponentially to the number of conspirators. The old saw in the United States (att. to B. Franklin, iirc) is that three can keep a secret if two are dead. In Ireland, I believe the saw runs that if you have four conspirators, what you really have is three idiots and one informer.

    For something this big, you would want as small a unit as possible, with tight unit integrity… folks who knew and could rely on one another, with at least a whiff of discretion not to boast or want to spend like a drunken sailor after the fact. Lesee…. you might be able to handle some extra hands by using “cut-outs” and hiring some bodies as lookout and the like on piece-work, but that is a potential liability / security leak after the fact. Perfect universe, say 8 to 12 — figure 2-3 watching each family, the balance driving the vans and playing look-out. If they really had an inside man in Ward, the field of potential bad-guys goes beyond disaffected cops and paramilitaries of either variety to a whole range of unhappy ex-employees and inspired amateurs.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Shore Road Resident: “All we can say for sure is that IRA was involved at some point – because Gerry Adams has conspicuously failed to categorically rule it out.”

    I am sure there is a world of deeds you could ask Mr. Adams about that he would neither confirm nor deny. Given his distrust of the PSNI and the other security apparatus, not wholly unwarranted, given the undue closeness between the cops and the Loyalist thugs (demonstrated by recent events), he might have not categorically denied it hoping that someone with your staggering grasp of logic would follow precisely that blind end. I would also point out that the classic “resistance” model of cells prevents anyone from knowing everything in an organization. All it takes is one liar in the chain from the field to control for “information failure.” More purdent to deny all knowledge, whilst leaving the door ajar, just in case.

  • Shore Road Resident

    Nope Dread, your argument doesn’t make sense.
    Whatever the failings of the PSNI or its problems with Special Branch, Gerry’s ‘denial of any suggestion’ of involvement stands alone as a cop-free cop-out. Plus I’ll remind you that Hugh Orde waited almost a month before making a public assessment of the likely culprits, and only then because everyone else was laughing at him for so obviously attempting to gloss over a politically embarassing episode for Sinn Fein.

  • The speculation may be fun, but I’m with Lonely Pint, Yer Man and few others on this thread. We will have to wait and see what’s comes out in the final wash.

    This is a twist, but which way the road goes is guesswork.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Shore Road Resident: “Plus I’ll remind you that Hugh Orde waited almost a month before making a public assessment of the likely culprits, and only then because everyone else was laughing at him for so obviously attempting to gloss over a politically embarassing episode for Sinn Fein.”

    I would argue a parallex position — the rush to pin the blame on PIRA may have delayed the investigation of this case. We will see what we will see and we will have to wait and see it — I suspect the plot has at least two more kinks left in it, but its not looking good for your or Mr. Orde’s prognosticating abilities. If I was in charge of a covert organization without a clear set of internal controls and a history of internal division, there is no way I’d be making categorical statements about who did or didn’t do what to whom. If Mr. Ward was really involved, all prior assumptions (even those that you really wish were true) are worth about as much as one of the stolen bank notes.

  • Shore Road Resident

    Now don’t be putting thoughts in my head, which is a lovely place where the IRA went out of business in 1998 and everyone holds hands in a beautiful garden.
    If the provos didn’t rob the bank it’ll be curtains for the security establishment north and south – for a start, the media will never forgive them.
    But that just makes it even less likely that the PSNI, Garda Siochana, NIO, Dublin govt. etc would have made the allegation up unless they were absolutely sure. If the investigation now leads towards an ‘inside job’ scenario, that makes it even less likely again that there was a ‘securocrat conspiracy’ to pin the blame on the provos. It just means there was a stupendous fuck-up. If the security forces subsequently uncover that fuck-up, whither any conspiracy theory on their dark political intent?

    Wait and see, like you say – but so many signs still point to the provos that it is people pointing urgently in other directions on the basis of a single arrest who would appear to be guilty of wishful thinking, n’est pas?

  • carlos blancos

    Is there such a word as curiouser?

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Shore Road Resident: “Now don’t be putting thoughts in my head, which is a lovely place where the IRA went out of business in 1998 and everyone holds hands in a beautiful garden.”

    Singing Kumbyah, no doubt, but a fair enough point.

    Shore Road Resident: “If the provos didn’t rob the bank it’ll be curtains for the security establishment north and south – for a start, the media will never forgive them.”

    I would disagree — its a round-robin event, what with someone up, someone down and someone in the middle. The profound silence heard on this board regarding the revelations out of Castlereagh makes me wonder if anything exists that the media would never forgive.

    Shore Road Resident: “But that just makes it even less likely that the PSNI, Garda Siochana, NIO, Dublin govt. etc would have made the allegation up unless they were absolutely sure.”

    Stuff and nonsense. All it took was the first politico within the first agency to get the ball rolling. History around the world is rife with easy scapegoats and lazy bureaucrats and crooked cops. PIRA will always be the PSNI’s preferred bogeyman, partly earned and partly out of habit. The ties to the Loyalist paramilitaries don’t hurt, either.

    Shore Road Resident: “If the investigation now leads towards an ‘inside job’ scenario, that makes it even less likely again that there was a ‘securocrat conspiracy’ to pin the blame on the provos. It just means there was a stupendous fuck-up. If the security forces subsequently uncover that fuck-up, whither any conspiracy theory on their dark political intent?”

    Mayhaps, but I’m not necessarily arguing malice, just laziness, laxity and a need to look like progress was being made. As Capt. Renault was want to exclaim, “Round up the usual suspects.”

    Shore Road Resident: “Wait and see, like you say – but so many signs still point to the provos that it is people pointing urgently in other directions on the basis of a single arrest who would appear to be guilty of wishful thinking, n’est pas?”

    Funny, folks sneered when the same line of logic was applied with the *first* round of arrests…

    Carlos Blancos: “Is there such a word as curiouser?”

    Blame the Rev. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, if you will.

  • jim

    Why did the police spend several hours in the house, this morning carrying out a forensic examination.

    Did they not spend three days examining the house after the robbery ?

  • Whatabout

    Why would anyone set up the IRA (or Sinn Fein) for this robbery?

  • Comrade Stalin

    Dread:

    The profound silence heard on this board regarding the revelations out of Castlereagh makes me wonder if anything exists that the media would never forgive.

    What “revelations” came out of Castlereagh ?

    PIRA will always be the PSNI’s preferred bogeyman, partly earned and partly out of habit.

    This isn’t about the PSNI’s bogeyman. Why did Brian Feeney – no friend of the British, the unionists or the PSNI – conclude that the IRA were involved ?

    The ties to the Loyalist paramilitaries don’t hurt, either.

    The only ties loyalists have to the police at the moment appears to involve target practice. If the police are friendly with loyalists, what are loyalists doing hanging up “police brutality” notices along Sandy Row and shooting at them with crossbows ?

    Jim:

    Did they not spend three days examining the house after the robbery ?

    Perhaps the police were not considering him a suspect at the time and have come to change that position. Who knows.

    It’s still not possible to draw conclusions on this matter yet but I was surprised when this chap was arrested today. Either he is completely innocent, or he is a bloody good actor. It’s hard to believe that someone would be involved in a robbery like that and then go on TV to talk about it. As I said before, the police better be right about this – otherwise they’re going to come off very badly indeed.

  • Shore Road Resident

    The other possibility is that Chris Ward is a hostile witness – which would be understandable, if his family was genuinely threatened by the IRA, as he claimed. The police have powers for arrest for questioning under such circumstances, don’t they? (I’m not certain of this.)

  • martin

    But why would the IRA rob the money–think about if if it was to be used as a post conflict pension fund for their volunteers-we’ll say roughly about 1,000 of them—-how could they ever distribute that money among them without the majority of them flashing it around and showing off and slabbering to everyone while under the influence of drink—quite a sizable portion of them aren’t the brightest candles on the birthday cake–Im just calling a spade a spade here–if the leaders wanted to horde it for themselves it would be mainly useless to them as well- what could they do with it—could the 7 members of the army council suddenly own property worth 3 million a piece without any eyebrows being raised.

  • Comrade Stalin

    But why would the IRA rob the money

    Why would anyone rob money ? Why does anyone rob anything ? No offence but that’s a bit of a daft question.

    we’ll say roughly about 1,000 of them—-how could they ever distribute that money among them without the majority of them flashing it around and showing off and slabbering to everyone while under the influence of drink

    The IRA have managed to keep wraps over far more serious and deadly matters than the robbery of a bank. I think this is a straightforward matter of discipline.

  • martin

    ”No offence but that’s a bit of a daft question.”

    none taken ,

    “The IRA have managed to keep wraps over far more serious and deadly matters than the robbery of a bank.”

    but what Im getting at is that ok moralistically to murder someone is much worse than to rob a bank–but to murder someone and keep the group silent who carried it out would be much easier than to hide the proceeds of a huge bank robbery and then distribute the money among about 1000 without any slips.

    E.G 5 people take part in varying degrees in the murder of a man-they have a vested interest in keeping their mouths shut=20 years in the slammer.

    10 people take part in a 26 million bank robbery they will keep their mouths shut because they have a vested interest=5-10 years in the slammer–thats them—if they’ve taken the risks how do they feel about sharing that money with 1000 others-any of whom could boast to people or start flashing the cash or alternatively–they could give it to a group of leaders [7] who give them no purpose as what they intend to do with it other than take it from them and keep it themselves.

    Now 10 men might commit such a robbery to share it among themselves and to keep it for themselves=possible PIRA members on a freelance–or just 10 ordinary decent criminals who pulled off the big heist.

  • barnshee

    “(unless the PSNI centres have very lax security, allowing unknown people to wonder in from the street with wads of freshly stolen cash). ”

    Sadly –this was in fact the case the centre was and is open to anyone

  • Shore Road Resident

    Yep, I’ve been in there to pick people up in the old Joe-Maxi, and also for a drink after an evening to a cricket club nearby, if beer-stained memory serves.
    Anyway, in my opinion the cash in the RUC club toilet, discovered after a tip-off to the media by the way, is *the* strongest indicator of IRA involvement. The apologists love to claim that ‘anti-peace process securocrats’ have a motive to frame the Shinners. I ask you – who else but the Shinners would frame the PSNI?

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Shore Road Rrsident: “Anyway, in my opinion the cash in the RUC club toilet, discovered after a tip-off to the media by the way, is *the* strongest indicator of IRA involvement. The apologists love to claim that ‘anti-peace process securocrats’ have a motive to frame the Shinners. I ask you – who else but the Shinners would frame the PSNI?”

    Frankly, anyone with a) a sense of humor, b) a bunch of freshly worthless specie and c) no love for the cops.

    if you would prefer a specific culprit, lesee… if’n you read Comrade Stalin’s post, the Loyalists have no love for the cops, although the transfer of information between the “demmed securocrats” and the loyalists seems to be in working order, such as the transfer of sensitive information on Nationalists that the security apparatus said *wasn’t* handed over / leaked by insiders to the Loyalist paramilitaries but somehow ended up there anyway.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    whatabout: “Why would anyone set up the IRA (or Sinn Fein) for this robbery? ”

    Lesee — how about not getting caught?

  • Henry94

    If we are looking at an inside job then we can forget about the earlier theory that the raiders were surprised by how much cash was available. The inside man would have let them know that the time was right.

    I always thought the two trips disproved that anyway. Time lines are surely well worked out in these situations.

    It is also worth looking at political events since the robbery. The pressure on the IRA to exit the stage became overwhelming in the one place that it mattered which is republican Ireland.

    Because the political agenda we wanted to follow was undermined by the claims the IRA were involved irrespective of the truth or otherwise of the allegations.

    Cui bono? All of us I suppose. But who could have set up both the robbery and the subsequent political storm? Clearly the security services could have.

    So would they have an ethical issue? To ask the question is to answer it.

    Motive, means and opportunity. Form? The Littlejohn case shows that robbing banks to discredit the IRA is already part of their repertoire.

  • DK

    Another posibility (one for the conspiracy theorists).

    IRA carried out the robbery and, as part of secret SF-HMG negotiations, HMG is hamstringing the investigation and covering the IRAs back. HMG’s motive is that a bank robbery is a small price (paid for by the bank anyway) for disarmamanet of the IRA, while SF also gets the IRA off their back to pursue their political ambitions, and finally the IRA get wodges of cash to retire happily with.

    Poor old PSNI plod is unaware of the above and will never get anywhere, but will keep trying. The blaming from all the governments etc. on the IRA is political expediency and maybe those doing the blaming are also unaware of the secret deal. Plausable?

  • Henry94

    DK

    But the British wouldn’t actually need the IRA to do the robbery.

  • Michael

    It will be interesting to see how this develops over the coming weeks.

    I have to say that I was very surprised to see Chris Ward giving such an indepth interview after the robbery. I thought this a very strange action on the part of Mr Ward and presumed that it would make him a key suspect.

    If, as thought at the time it was the IRA, or even if it was a criminal gang who knew where you lived, why would you ever appear on tv and endanger yourself or your family?

  • Betty Boo

    It was very strange acting on the part of Mr. Ward.

  • seabhac siulach

    Can the truth on the robbery come out now that there is no election coming up?

  • Michael

    Betty Boo

    Indeed 🙂

  • Dread Cthulhu

    DK: “IRA carried out the robbery and, as part of secret SF-HMG negotiations, HMG is hamstringing the investigation and covering the IRAs back. HMG’s motive is that a bank robbery is a small price (paid for by the bank anyway) for disarmamanet of the IRA, while SF also gets the IRA off their back to pursue their political ambitions, and finally the IRA get wodges of cash to retire happily with.

    Poor old PSNI plod is unaware of the above and will never get anywhere, but will keep trying. The blaming from all the governments etc. on the IRA is political expediency and maybe those doing the blaming are also unaware of the secret deal. Plausable? ”

    Possible, but unlikely… It doesn’t really scan — the bulk of the money is now worthless, any real effort to exchange the untraceable bills from the bank would have been a large and risky operation and, of course, that many people can’t possibly keep a secret.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Lastest update from al-BeeBeeCeera…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/4491302.stm

    The short form — they hung onto Ward, tossed the girl back, remanded McEvoy (also talk of preventing a bail application) and arrested a 50 yr old from Carrickfergus, County Antrim.

    IOW, more of the same — gotta look busy.

  • Northern FF

    Coming fresh to this thread, I’m disappointed that no one has picked up on the most curious public comments of all – i.e. those of Mssr Ward’s solicitor Mr Kevin Winters.

    In the Irish News he strongly criticised the arrest and claimed it was grossly unfair for the PSNI to compare interviews given when he was in polic custody and the interviews he gave in the Irish News and on BBC (no word of why).

    But the best of the lot – he condemned the arrests on the basis that they were POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. ??

    ‘a young, non-aligned lad from Poleglass and his workmates’ Mmmm. Time for a new solicitor?

  • Dread Cthulhu

    Northern FF: “In the Irish News he strongly criticised the arrest and claimed it was grossly unfair for the PSNI to compare interviews given when he was in polic custody and the interviews he gave in the Irish News and on BBC (no word of why). ”

    Curiouser and curiouser. First of all, what the heck was the solicitor’s theoretical basis? I mean, if absolutely nothing else, if one contradicts the other, then the differing interviews would muddy the water what and if someone actually goes on trial. Secondly, I’d have to say giving the media interviews was asking for trouble.

    NFF: “But the best of the lot – he condemned the arrests on the basis that they were POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. ?? ”

    ‘course he did… *EVERYTHING* in NI is politically motivated.

  • Yer Woman

    Michael Said: “I have to say that I was very surprised to see Chris Ward giving such an indepth interview after the robbery. I thought this a very strange action on the part of Mr Ward and presumed that it would make him a key suspect.”

    My thoughts exactly. I remember myelf and my boyfriend watching this interview, and my boyfriend (who has absolutley no interest in current affairs or the NB Robbery)immediatley said that something was up with him.

    Ward was too calm and too forthcoming with information for a man who had just gone through what should have been a terrible ordeal.

    But his ease infront of the camera might have been down to lapping up all the media attention he was getting at the time?

  • Comrade Stalin

    ‘course he did… *EVERYTHING* in NI is politically motivated.

    How could arresting a person who is nothing to do with any organization be politically motivated ? How could arresting CW have any political implications for anyone ?

    The only aspect of the bank robbery which is political is the IRA’s alleged hand in it.

  • Joe

    “Why would anyone rob……”
    A famous (infamous) Toronto bank robber back in the 50’s was asked by a reporter why he robbed banks. He replied “Because that’s where the money is”.

  • Dread Cthulhu

    DC: “course he did… *EVERYTHING* in NI is politically motivated.”

    CS: “How could arresting a person who is nothing to do with any organization be politically motivated ? How could arresting CW have any political implications for anyone ? ”

    Sarcasm, CS, sarcasm… Everything in NI ends up being political to someone. I’d think you would have noticed it by now.