A long time watcher…

Harold Good has just spoken. “Father Reid and I have spent days, many days watching [the decomm team] decommissioning a vast amount of arms on a minute by minute basis”. De Chastelain has note how much of it there was. There may be missing – but infinately small amounts. Most of it was the manufacturers packaging. It was also clear he said that there was also a lot of material in belts and small bits and pieces, clearly brought in in small quantities from a wide number of people. He thinks they have all the arms that were in the knowing possession of the IRA.

  • yerman

    I feel distinctly underwhelmed.

  • smcgiff

    I’d a feeling you’d feel distinctly underwhelmed.

  • yerman

    The whole press conference has been faintly shambolic. The General has only been giving the same kind of info as he was able/allowed to give at previous conferences. I suppose that isnt very surprising.

    However, the ‘independent’ witnesses have added absolutely nothing to the whole press conference. They gave no extra details over an above what the General has given. Surely the whole purpose of independent witnesses was that they wouldnt be bound by the legislation and the agreements between the IICD and the IRA and would therefore be free to tell us answers to the questions we all want to know.

    How many weapons were decommissioned? How were they decommissioned? How many days did it take? How many sites were visited?….. You could go on for some time.

    It ranks up there as as poor a performance as the General’s last press conference which was a bit of a disaster.

    David Trimble would have been back warming up the First Minister’s chair by now of course.

  • baldrick

    As an ulster prod (small u small p) – I’m happy that several thousand guns and assorted rockets, HMG’s and all that deadly sh*t is gone. I’d be even happier if there were any sign that the drug dealing, extortionist scum bags who masquerade as “my defenders” were lining up to hand in a few guns too.

    To my mind getting all anal about whether this is all PIRA guns or (just listening to the Journo’s questions) what happened to the post 1992 Florida guns is a exercise in futility while LVF/UDA et al continue to hold and use their weapons.

    And on that basis I’m happy to cut SF/PIRA a fair degree of slack as we wait for the passage of time to finally prove one way or another how sincere and how complete this act is.

    From were I’m sitting – it’s been a Good Day for Ireland North & South.

  • smcgiff

    Yerman,

    As I’m at ‘work’, I haven’t seen the press conference, but didn’t they say they destroyed the weapons that the security forces knew to be held. i.e. 600 Kalashnikovs etc. I’m certain the exact information will come out in time.

    It’d be foolish to think that these people will not have kept some weapons such as handguns. It’d be foolish of them not to, imo.

  • smcgiff

    Well said, baldrick. It, er, sounds like a plan!

  • baldrick

    As an ulster prod (small u small p) – I’m happy that several thousand guns and assorted rockets, HMG’s and all that deadly sh*t is gone. I’d be even happier if there were any sign that the drug dealing, extortionist scum bags who masquerade as “my defenders” were lining up to hand in a few guns too.

    To my mind getting all anal about whether this is all PIRA guns or (just listening to the Journo’s questions) what happened to the post 1992 Florida guns is a exercise in futility while LVF/UDA et al continue to hold and use their weapons.

    And on that basis I’m happy to cut SF/PIRA a fair degree of slack as we wait for the passage of time to finally prove one way or another how sincere and how complete this act is.

    From were I’m sitting – it’s been a Good Day for Ireland North & South.

  • Overhere

    I’m with you on this one Baldrik

  • George

    “I’m happy that several thousand guns and assorted rockets, HMG’s and all that deadly sh*t is gone.”

    First time I’ve ever heard HMG called “deadly sh*t” and I think it’s a bit premature to think it has been decommissioned in Ireland just yet 🙂

    But I share the belief that this is a good day for Ireland, north and south.

    Most importantly, it gives a clear sign as to the futility and bankruptcy of violence to achieve political means in 21st century Ireland.

  • lamh_dearg

    more impressive than I expected, the witnesses did what bthey were supposed to do, they witnessed arms being destroyed, they have seen the amounts and the security forces estimates and are happy that they match. Well done IRA/SF, now let’s deal with the Loyalist paramilitaries and everybody’s gangsterism

  • BogExile

    GUNS

    Guns, guns, glorious guns,
    Nothing quite like it for arming the Huns
    So follow me follow
    To some bunkered hollow
    And there we will wallow
    In glorious guns

    Guns, guns, bye-bye to guns
    But what do we do if we need some more funds?
    We’ll keep some, yes thanks
    For robbing the banks
    The public will swallow
    A few missable guns

    Guns, guns, visible guns
    We need a few photos
    To score some more runs
    So give us a pic
    To put up on a stick
    And win a few votes from your
    Truprinted Guns

    Guns, guns
    You can but them like buns
    And Semtex take visa
    To buy a few tons
    So apart from today
    We’ve not gone away
    And we still have money
    For glorious guns.

  • darthrumsfeld

    LOL LOL LOL

  • Dandyman

    Excellent