"I caught a fleeting glimpse"

Regardless of my criticism of the campaign itself.. and I will note that there are rumours [from Andrew Marr – no links yet] that perhaps the most important issue, that of trade, will not be sufficiently addressed at the G8 meeting at Gleneagles.. but my personal pick of the concert in Hyde Park has to be [most of] The Floyd re-uniting and, in particular, Comfortably Numb.. acid flashbacks optional – feel free to make your own nominations.

  • Stray Toaster

    The Who rocked. Truly they did. In a different way from the Floyd. (If anyone has the DSoT video, the camera sweeps over my head at one point. At least, I tell people it is me. Perhaps if I get the DVD I could get a perfect still and prove it.)

    The other high point? The Red Hand of Ulster on display throughout the whole show. The dude’s arms must have been sore, for he kept it up (now, please, stop that) all day.

    As for the coverage, I just kept thinking show up the fookin’ music. Then thought better of it, as most of it was absolute rubbish. Still, Madonna is well put together for her age…

  • spirit-level

    Had to be Pink Floyd, absolutely awesome

  • Tomasmaguire

    Maidin mhaith,

    When it all started with Bono and McCartney I felt a little queezy at being lectured to by mega rich musicians on poverty but reasoned that some action is better than absoltely none and in that context fair play to them.

    The highlight for me was Miss dynamité, loved her rendition of Marley’s Redemption song, her proud demeanor and her emotive political statement referring to the rape and pillage by this country (the british) of Africa was fabulous and personally very brave given the platform.

    She was clearly conflicted at being there. Even refering to the many who criticised her for her presence (including her very good friend Harvey) as one of the few black artists invited to the primarily white gig at hyde park. Yet she came with a message, shouted it out big time and left with immense dignity.

    This woman was one of the REAL stars of the show. Compared for example to Josh Stone who declared I really agree with all this and by the way here is my new song.

    It beggars that age old question though. Do you protest from the sidelines like Harvey & her other critics did or do you, like this noble young woman get stuck in there and protest from within? I guess both are right given individual conscience.

    Tomas

  • Jacko

    Thank God for that.
    I was totally blown away by the Pink Floyd performance (sober as a judge, incidentally), but heard some woman on the radio this morning describe it as boring. Was talking to someone else and they said the same.
    I was beginning to think my taste had evaporated. But no, the above comments have confirmed I was spot on.
    Of the others, I thought Stereophonics, Scissor Sisters, Coldplay and Annie Lennox were really excellent.
    The guy Doherty was an absolute embarassment – Elton still doing his care-in-the-community bit, I see.
    Have to admit, though I can’t stand the guy, McCartney was good at the end, particularly with Helter Skelter. (BTW, this is the song Charles Manson somehow cited the inoffensive – and largely meaningless – lyrics from to somehow convince his followers to commit the murders of Sharon Tate etc.)

  • Jacko

    Pete

    Andrew Marr, who was interviewed at least twice by Wossy, said on air that trade – as you rightly point out, the most important issue – would not be sufficiently addressed by the leaders.
    I really like Marr. An excellent journalist with a great self-deprecating sense of humour. I read his book on journalism earlier in the year – I have loaned it out and can’t remember the exact title – and would highly recommend it.

  • spirit-level

    same as Jacko. Andy Marr is a genuine guy and rightly points to the trade problem. Maybe a sea-change of attitude against rampant materialism will help, and I feel this is the inner revolution that must complement the outer aid and help we are giving to Africa to really solve this huge problem of trade barriers CAP etc.

  • Jacko

    Tomasmaguire
    “When it all started with Bono and McCartney I felt a little queezy at being lectured to by mega rich musicians on poverty but reasoned that some action is better than absoltely none and in that context fair play to them.”

    I agree entirely with the above. I watched throughout the entire concert and felt the same way – often. A voice in my head kept screaming, “and how much have you given yourself, then?” interspersed with, “if it wasn’t for the publicity, would you even be bothered?”
    As a related aside, Bill Gates gives an enormous amount to charitable causes and to aid programmes in Africa. I suppose we could say “he can well afford it” but there are many who also could, but don’t.

  • Mick Hall

    Don’t lets mention the war, ah. What a load of spineless creeps. How about having a convicted pedophile headlining on a show about Africa for tactlessness. The very place, now Thailand is getting a bit hot they are all heading for. I think Bill Gates presence just about summed it up for me.

    By the way, what is it with these old guys and Grecian Two Thousand, the Floyd seemed to be the only act or presenter over forty who had not pored a bottle of crap on their heads, which made them not only look stupid but ten years older. Don’t they have wives, girl friends or daughters to point this fact out to them.

    These type of shows remind me of the Royal Variety Performances we had to endure when we were kids. No act is on long enough to warm up, so even if they are at their best they are off before they get into their stride.[which few were at yesterdays concert in HP] Im convinced rock has had its day, once it became a career opportunity for nice middle class boys it was doomed to become just another brick in multi national capitals wall. What were PF doing there, Gilmore looked decidedly uncomfortable to me.

  • Mick Hall

    Don’t lets mention the war, ah. What a load of spineless creeps. How about having a convicted pedophile headlining on a show about Africa for tactlessness. The very place, now Thailand is getting a bit hot they are all heading for. I think Bill Gates presence just about summed it up for me.

    By the way, what is it with these old guys and Grecian Two Thousand, the Floyd seemed to be the only act or presenter over forty who had not pored a bottle of crap on their heads, which made them not only look stupid but ten years older. Don’t they have wives, girl friends or daughters to point this fact out to them.

    These type of shows remind me of the Royal Variety Performances we had to endure when we were kids. No act is on long enough to warm up, so even if they are at their best they are off before they get into their stride.[which few were at yesterdays concert in HP] Im convinced rock has had its day, once it became a career opportunity for nice middle class boys it was doomed to become just another brick in multi national capitals wall. What were PF doing there, Gilmore looked decidedly uncomfortable to me.

  • Andrew Ian Dodge

    I think everyone with a pulse and any taste will say Floyd stole the show with Robbie doing well in addition. The crappiest performances were from Coldplay & that numbnut from Babyshambles with Elton John.

  • Jacko

    Cheer up, Mick Hall.

  • spirit-level

    Jacko I guess we have to be pleased Mick Hall didn’t end up doing a “Bored” and going on and on about “the slack-jawed, dull-eyed, Argos Jewellery wearing ……etc etc. Have you been noticing!
    I think you made some good points there Mick
    particularly the mid-class boys “doomed to become just another brick in multi national capitals wall” that was class man 🙂

  • Ziznivy

    I thought the performance of U2 was excellent considering they were starting the show in the mid-afternoon. The crowd were particularly poor, they didn’t seem like a regular concert going audience at all. Pete Doherty of course was a ……. well a shambles! He was too messed up even to sing properly. I also thought Richard Ashcroft was well our of his depth. SNow Patrol were poor on Chocolate, they sounded very nervous, but came back strongly with run.

    I would have to say that the criticism of Joss Stone’s a bit harsh. She’s 18 FFS, she can’t be expected to be hugely thoughtful or articulate. But then I’m probably biased because she’s gorgeous!

  • Blackadder

    I thought Pink Floyd were the best band on the day, though I appreciate they aren’t exactly a particularly upbeat festival band. However, the quality of the music was just so far above everyone else it was untrue.

    Madge stuck in a good performance too, she can sing AND perform, which is a lesson that some of the Britney’s and Christina’s of the world could take heed from.

  • Baluba

    No arguments from me about PF – absolutely a cut above the rest, even when trying desperately to get over the urge to kill each other!!!

    Madonna was surprisingly good. Annie Lennox brilliant.

    Coldplay are sooo over-rated it’s unbelievabe to me!

    U2 were massive obviously although I can NOT stand Bono’s constant pontificating! Smash poverty? This coming from the man who paid a first-class fare for his lucky hat from Dublin to Rome once? A bit rich if you ask me (and pardon the pun).

    Snoopy Snoopy Dog Dog? mmm…not for me.

    Miss Dynamite? Not for me, but fairplay for the sentiments.

    In light of the fact that, at this very minute, parts of Ethiopia are in extreme drought and hundreds are dying, I thought maybe collecting a few pound would not have taken away from the sentiment of the day and made a bit of a difference to some Africans too.

    Must be nice to be a celeb and get to further your own career AND give yourself and your peers a good pat on the back at the same time.

    I suspect Bushy doesn’t give a damn about all this by the way!

  • Mick Hall

    Your right Jacko, I did sound like one of those old gits on the TV program, but that is how the whole thing made me feel, it just did not lift me, let alone make me tap my toe. I missed Joss Stone, although I saw her on the Jonathan Ross Show on Friday night doing a duet with James Brown which I enjoyed, she seems a real talent. It looks like her record company is taking her down the same road as Steve Winwood when he first burst on the scene as a solo artist. Both he and Joss are great singers but the record company made them take a disco, middle of the road course. Understandable as the US market is where it is at, but I don’t feel it draws the best out of them musically.

  • Jacko

    Baluba
    “This coming from the man who paid a first-class fare for his lucky hat from Dublin to Rome once?”

    Well said.
    I think about that every time I hear the Bono fellow giving off about poverty, greed etc.

    Cheers Mick
    Don’t worry about that, you only said what most of us tried hard not to think about while lapping up the music, i.e. most of these people don’t give a toss about Africa.
    Beckham and the wife being there made me feel physically sick – those two tossers couldn’t spell Africa never mind know where it is or care about it’s problems.
    Joss Stone is excellent, but I share your fears re. record bosses etc. I also find it a little off-putting her singing about experiences she can’t possibly have any personal knowledge of – but that’s probably because I’ve always been a massive Janis Joplin fan and spoiled by the authenticity of that lady’s performances.

  • Tomasmaguire

    Don’t lets mention the war, ah. What a load of spineless creeps. How about having a convicted pedophile headlining on a show about Africa for tactlessness. The very place, now Thailand is getting a bit hot they are all heading for.

    Apart from MS Dynamité Mick, credit where creidt is due? Who was the paedophilic abuser who was headlining the show, my jaw droped open when I read that.

    Tomas

  • Mick Hall

    Tomas,

    It gives me no joy to say it but it was Pete Townsend, he pleaded guilty to downloading thousands of pornographic images of children being sexually abused from a US internet site. When this happened, I said to a friend without having given the matter much thought, well at least he is not going out and doing it, but gratifying himself by looking at pictures. My friend sharply put me in my place, saying, Im sure that is some consolation to the kids being abused in the photos. If people like him did not buy the images there would be no market for them.

    Townsend has brought much enjoyment to many people via his music and in todays world this should not be underestimated. However I just feel having the problem he appears to have/had he would be better living the rest of his life out of the public eye. For him not to do so and the rest of us accepting it is in my view sending out all the wrong messages. Not least if you are rich, famous and powerful you can get away with almost anything.

    I have no wish to pillory people and maybe he thought he was making amends somehow by being at the live 8 concert, but what message does his appearance say to the rest of us, not least more active pedophiles, we already know from research that they do not feel they are doing anything wrong when they have sex with children or look at child porn. A wretched subject yes, but I mentioned it because I wished to express my disapproval of him being there, little good it will do.

  • Baluba

    Mick,

    Is that right that he pleaded guilty? Did he say he was researching a book or something?

    I was thinking the same way as you and was not aware that he had pleaded guilty. Was he sentenced? What happened?

    I agree with you. He shouldn’t be there. JUST looking at the pictures is as bad as doing it in my eyes, it lends support and some kind of validity to the sick peoplle exploiting and abusing these children.

    I know that there weren’t enough black artists at the gig either, but is a big ‘gangsta’ with a handgun as a medallion round his neck a good ambassador for the fight for justice in the world either?

  • Mick Hall

    Baluba,

    Townsend made a deal, he admitted the offence in return for receiving a caution.

    regards

    LONDON, England (CNN) — British rock star Pete Townshend, legendary guitarist of The Who, was “formally cautioned” Wednesday for accessing a Web site containing images of child abuse, police said.

    Police informed Townshend at noon, and as a routine part of the cautioning process, took fingerprints, a photograph and a DNA sample.

    Standard procedure in these cases provides that Townshend will be entered on the Sex Offenders Register for a period of five years.

    The formal cautioning — short of a criminal charge but an official warning that next time charges would almost certainly follow — came after four months of investigation by officers from Scotland Yard’s Child Protection Group

  • Mick Hall

    Baluba,

    Townsend made a deal, he admitted the offence in return for receiving a caution and was placed on the sex offenders register for five years.

    regards

  • Baluba

    Cheers Mick,

    but I’m not too happy not to be able to enjoy their fine tunes anymore with clear conscience!

  • Jimmy_Sands

    It’s odd that there are those who will argue that those convicted of the most serious criminal offences should have their records wiped clean in order to improve their career prospects, and yet a man whose rap sheet consists of a police caution is never to be permitted to work again.

  • DCB

    Jimmy

    I agree

    But top marks for getting the topic back to wee norin Ireland

  • Jimmy_Sands

    Well I thought kiddyfiddling was already pretty much off topic.

    As for live 8, all I’d say is f*** the begrudgers.

  • Keith M

    I saw bits of the show inbetween watching the wonderful ladies’ final at Wimbledon and doing my annual shopping weekend in Glasgow.

    I thought U2 were dreadful (they looked lifeless and Bono was off key several times), Coldplay were very ordinary, and Pink Floyd were just as boring as I remember them from childhood. The worst performance though was Pete Doherty murdering “Children Of The Revolution”.

    My highlights were Razorlight, The Who and surprisingly Paul McCartney who all chose their songs well and really looked like they were into it.

  • savatagefan

    floyd were the best by a mile, but it says alot for the audience that they were at their most active during the fat dancers turn, by the way did you see the crap they had on in philadelphia some change from 85 (tina turner,stones,zeppelin,young madonna,black sabbath,bryan adams,clapton to name a few though zeppelins set was so bad they have refused permission ever since to have see the light of day could be to do with phil collins drumming)

  • Chris

    Pink Floyd rocked. Tears were coming down my eyes when I saw them on stage.

    It was a beautiful thing.