12th may become a public holiday in the Republic

The Galway council of trade unions is to put forward a motion calling for July 12th to be made a public holiday in the Irish Republic as well as Northern Ireland at the upcoming ICTU congress in Belfast, according to a report in the Sunday Tribune (hardcopy available only).

The reasons are apparently twofold; to recognise the other tradition on this island and to get Irish workers another public holiday as they are currently shortchanged in comparison to their European counterparts.

If the ICTU passes the motion, it will likely be put to Taoiseach Bertie Ahern when talks about a new national pay deal start in September.

  • garret

    It is not a bad idea and a way of showing that all-Irelandism isn’t a one way street. Its a great time of year for one.

  • Young Irelander

    An atrocious idea. Since when is bigotry worth taking a holiday over? Irish people would rather work than celebrate one of the darkest days in Irish history.

  • Young Irelander

    An atrocious idea. Since when is bigotry worth taking a holiday over? Irish people would rather work than celebrate one of the darkest days in Irish history.

  • Young Irelander

    An atrocious idea. Since when is bigotry worth taking a holiday over? Irish people would rather work than celebrate one of the darkest days in Irish history.

  • Traditional Unionist

    a teling contribution YI

  • Joseyboy

    YI

    “one of the darkest days in Irish history”

    How’s that ?

  • maca

    Why should the 12th be a public holiday?
    Would a date such a December 6th not be more appropriate for example? Or something more important like Worlds Aids Day or World Peace Day?

  • Keith M

    People who know me, will know that I’ve been championing this idea for years for several reasons. Firstly the Battle of the Boyne was the most important battle fought on this island. The repercussions spead accross Europe and played no small part in the ending of the reign of the corrupt absolute monarchies which ruled throughout the continent. Secondly it would help bring an all island dimension to the event, and in return, I think St.Patrick’s Day should become a public holiday in Northern Ireland. Thirdly it would help understanding the history around the battle (which is obviously lacking based on the posts on this thread). Finally we’re due an extra holiday (based on other EU countries) and by having one in the middle of July, and moving the August one back to the end of the month it breaks up the summer much better.

    This is a great idea and for once I’,m right behind the trade unions.

  • irishman

    A preposterous idea.

    We’re being asked to turn an event in Irish history which led to more than 100 years of the penal laws criminalising the mass bulk of irish people for their religion into a public holiday.

    Only a naive fool could have thought this one up.

  • Ricardo

    ‘Irish people would rather work than celebrate one of the darkest days in Irish history. ‘

    Hang on a sec YI. I’m one of these Irish people and i’ll have my holiday if it’s all the same with you. Or maybe I’m not irish enough for ya?

  • maca

    Ricardo
    “I’m one of these Irish people and i’ll have my holiday if it’s all the same with you. Or maybe I’m not irish enough for ya?”

    I thought you were from NI? Are you southern?

    Keith
    “Firstly the Battle of the Boyne was the most important battle fought on this island.”

    And? Do we need to “celebrate” that?

    “Secondly it would help bring an all island dimension to the event”

    Why would we want/need an all Ireland dimension for such an event?

    “Thirdly it would help understanding the history around the battle”

    As would a good history book 😉

    “Finally we’re due an extra holiday”

    Why not take a different one. As I mentioned, Worlds Aids Day, use the holiday to highlight something important or at least of value to Irish people.

  • Ricardo

    Northern Irish people are irish too maca. And british. Personally, I tend to alter my nationality depending on how much I think it will annoy someone 🙂

  • maca

    Ricardo
    “Northern Irish people are irish too maca.”

    Yes. But since we’re talking about the Irish state, ‘Irish’ means the Irish from this state. You’re not one of “these people” 😉

  • martin

    MACA,

    The battle of Kinsale was the most important battle fought on this island.

  • Ulsterman

    It should become A Holiday throughout Ireland. [Hmmm.. ed. Mod]

  • Keith M

    Maca,
    We don’t *need* to celebrate it, no more than we need to celebrate the birth or dead of Jesus etc. The question is *should* we celebrate it, and thereby help bring a better understanding of the significance of the event. I believe we should.

    Secondly, I thought you believed in all-island coming together, as someone else pointed out this shouldn’t all be one way traffic. I have suggested paddy’s day becoming a public holiday in NI, a classic “win win” solution.

    Thirdly, history books obviously haven’t reached most posters on here, so what little hope is there? As it happens the history of the battle in hardly mentioned in secondary school textbooks in this country.

    I think an event which still has far significance is far more worth celebrating than some arbitary days with no historical base.

  • Keith M

    Martin, can I humbly suggest you read a good history book if you think the Battle of Kinsale was more important than the Boyne, based on its international impact. Even Clontarf would be more important than Kinsale using local significance as a measure.

  • maca

    Keith
    “The question is *should* we celebrate it”

    Why bring about a better understanding of the event? What does it matter to anyone?

    “Secondly, I thought you believed in all-island coming together”

    Not necessarily…
    “as someone else pointed out this shouldn’t all be one way traffic.”

    Of course. Why not celebrate an “Island Day” where we could have a carnival with all the various cultures on the island?

    “I have suggested paddy’s day becoming a public holiday in NI, a classic “win win” solution.”

    Up to them. I don’t see it working though.

    “Thirdly, history books obviously haven’t reached most posters on here, so what little hope is there?”

    I don’t see a holiday changing anything. How would it? It’d be a day off work, nothing more.

  • Roger

    I am very impressed with some of the steps the Republic are seeking to make in order to reach out to the protestant community. The fact that they are willing to spend money to preserve the Battle of the Boyne area as well as possibly making the 12th a public holiday is all very encouraging.

    One of the best 12th of July celebrations that I attend each year is held in Rossnolliagh(cant spell that word) in Donegal on the Saturday before the 12th and it is a hugely enjoyable and fun day out.

  • martin

    If unionists want to celebrate wandering willie stealing his father in laws property then more pober to him James 2 was known as Seamus the shit as a result of him fleeing the battle before it was over, anyway willy married James daughter Mary ,Ive seen some portraits of her and even from sympathetic artists , I think the saying runs true

    He who marries for wealth —earns it

  • Joseyboy

    Why don’t we look at the here and now instead of back several hundred years. Why don’t we have a long holidays weekend Friday and Monday off somewhere between September and Christmas on and have as the theme a celebration of work-life balance, pulling back on the crazily long hours many of us are working these days and promote the precciousness of our leisure time and the need for proper social interaction time and, of course, shaming the bosses who work us ever longer hours.

  • martin

    keith m,

    You dont think the battle of Kinsale which lead to the Gaelic royal houses of O’NEIL and O’DONNEL being deposed after ruling Ulster for over a thousand years,ended the Gaelic way of life, led to the plantation of Ulster——–is more important than a glorified domestic dispute between fopish willie and his equally fopish father in law

  • Roger

    Martin

    If it was so important why isnt it remembered.

  • George

    Keithm,
    FYI: St. Patrick’s Day already is a public holiday in Northern Ireland according to the diary I’m looking at.

  • aquifer

    An all-Ireland 12th Holiday is a great idea in principle, and could be put in the ‘United Ireland by Invitation’ category, rather than in the ’32 County Ethnic Cleansing’ box.

    The atlanticist political and economic character of the Republic, and republicanism itself, probably owes more to Billy than to James and the other powdered dictators.

    In practice it may be better to have holidays on different days to encourage people to cross the border and to make best use of local tourist infrastructure.

  • Davros

    The ‘Gaelic way of life’ was feudal – who wants to go back to slavery and feudalism ?

  • Keith M

    George, can I suggest you get a new diary? St.Patrick’s Days is that unusual beast, a bank holiday that isn’t a public holiday (the same as Good Friday is this country).

    Martin, no, we’re talking international as well as local significance, the Battle of Kinsale made little long-term impact outside Ulster.

  • Keith M

    George, can I suggest you get a new diary? St.Patrick’s Days is that unusual beast, a bank holiday that isn’t a public holiday (the same as Good Friday is this country).

    Martin, no, we’re talking international as well as local significance, the Battle of Kinsale made little long-term impact outside Ulster, besides we already have a holiday at the start of January, and I don’t think a second one would be that welcome.

  • Martin Dub

    I dont know about this one. The 12th is the day when Unionism celebrates its history. I dont think its fair that we should get in on the act.

  • MARTIN

    keith m,
    first time England got the fright of Ireland being used as launching pad to herself being invaded by a hostile power, that fear has been evident until quite recently in the greater scheme of things—THE MOST IMPORTANT BATTLE FOUGHT ON THIS ISLAND—pertains to this island,on an international scale you could say that Britain having given the treaty ports back in 1938—almost lost the Battle of the Atlantic in the second world war of the Irish coast-please dont further this by being petty about off or on the island on this one.So let me see you now dont think i was so way off the mark as you did at first–.

    Davros,
    Gaelic Ireland was not feudal–it was clan orientated–chieftain was elected by the clan–primogenature inheritance was ENGLISH, women had better rights than their English COUNTERPARTS,could inherit property and could divorce their husbands if unfaithful ,unlike England where wives were beheaded when their usefulness passed,some people would argue that people back then had more freedoms,protections and rights than they have these days.

    Roger—commemoration every year and 2 films made about hugh o’neil and hugh’o Donnell–the reason it doesnt get the same publicity as the boyne is that Kinsales commemoration is not hijacked by biggots.Funny thing about Billys army at the boyne it seemed to contain every nationality but noticably sparse were the Ulster protestants who claim it as their victory.

  • Martin Dub

    Boyne vs Kinsale argument is a bit strange. I don’t think the Boyne is commemorated because of its importance, because Aughrim was probalby more important militarily, i thought there was some more symbolic or emotive reason for the Boyne commemoration. Please inform me.

  • Davros

    Gaelic Ireland was not feudal

    I suggest you read “The Origins of Early Christian Ireland, Harold Mytum, 1992, pp 135-136”

    How else would you describe the system of fuidir, bothach and sen-cléithe ?

    ( after 10 generations on the land the first two’s classes of people ‘s family became the last class – serfs.)

    And Gaeldom encompassed slavery .

  • CavanMan

    If by making the 12th of July a public holiday, we in some way, improve relations with our fellow irishmen/women who also assume a british identity, then it is worth it.Republicans should be the first ones welcoming it, as it shows the unionist community that in the even of a united Ireland their traditions would be most welcome.

  • Cavan Man

    event***

  • Davros

    Good post CavanMan.

  • martin

    Davros,

    Early Christian Ireland would be what 600 AD not the time of the Ulster earls,the class system then would have not been much worse than now–say if you were a roadsweeper from 10 generations of roadsweepers,you talk of slavery in the wrong context–they were landless labourerss–the cotier class which was extinguished at the time of the famine,the only similarity be would they did not receive wages,they worked for their bed and board–the lowest class the criminals,or other people who had offended the clan were—what would be considered in church terms cast out of the kirk,or persona non grata a modern equivalent would be a supergrass who tried to re-intigrate with the community they had betrayed.
    The things you talk about are more pre-christian when the monks were trying to win support from the back woods Crom Cruach worshipers who carried out animal and human sacrafices,not the time of the o’neil and the o’Donnell,

  • tra g

    Does this mean they would also have 11th night bonfires.

    That would be great craic.

    The uvf and uda would have to hire buses to travel to Cork,Dublin,Galway etc..jump off the bus,put on the balaclavas,fire automatic weapons into the air,jump back on the bus and travel home.

    Exhausting !!

  • martin

    Keith M,
    yes and if you go by the old calender ,kinsale was fought on Chrismass eve, how could we do our last minute shopping.

  • Paddy

    The more holidays the better, take it as a Holiday no need to celebrate you lot. Marching season lasts for ages, as it give certian people somethign to actually do in there live (collect wood). Another day off would be great. Why not have another for St. Georges Day. You know the guy that killed a lizard ?

    Enjoy

  • Henry94

    No other national historic event is commerated with a public holiday. The June, August and October weekends are about nothing in particular but they all fall on a Monday which makes a nice long weekend out of it.

    Any new holiday should also be on a Monday. The second Monday in July would be as good as any. But to politicise it would be a mistake and a break with current practice.

  • martin

    Davros,Roger and others of the Unionist family,

    You also have a big issue with the O’NEILS and O’DONNELLS in that being monarchists loyal to Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg Gotha ,you can’t bear the fact that she’s not the rightful monarch of Ulster even by royalty standards—their descendants are !!!

  • martin

    Davros,Roger and others of the Unionist family,

    You also have a big issue with the O’NEILS and O’DONNELLS in that being monarchists loyal to Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg Gotha ,you can’t bear the fact that she’s not the rightful monarch of Ulster even by monarcist standards—their descendants are !!!

  • Millie

    So the Battle of the Boyne was a number of key battles in the English Revolution, the battle between absolutist monarchy and parliamentary democracy. Absolutely fascinating. However I don’t believe working class people should parade their ignorance for all to see, nor indulge the prejudices of the ruling class.

    When orangeism opened up to the working classes during and after the first Home Rule crisis so began an unofficial system of patronage, access to housing and jobs mostly. But the orange state is no more and joining a lodge these days serves no practical purpose, hence the steady decline in numbers over the last 30 yrs. True, membership rose again during the height of Drumcree but at the same time a lot of older members resigned over the same period in disgust at the manner of the protest. Curiously though the decline in members has seen an increase in the numbers of parades from about 1,800 in the mid 80’s to nearly 3,000 today. A case of spreading themselves thin? So the sight of the Protestant working class, or anyone else for that matter, ‘celebrating’ an event which ushered in a political and economic system which has reduced most of their lives to one of long-term poverty, bad housing and low educational achievement, is indeed bizarre.

  • Davros

    Gaeldom as preached by Martin is as much of a sham as the blethers about Chivalry and justice to all men in the Days of King Arthur – which was just as fake as the society that’s claimed to have existed in a linear fashion stretching back into the mists of time 🙂 And as for the nonsense about the
    O’Neills and the O’Donnells – what sort of irish Republican believes in Royalty of any kind ? Of course , if we go back a few years ago the Irish recognised the Stuarts as their lawful kings 🙂

    Oirish History from across the pond – don’t ya love it ?

  • Davros

    This reminds me of other threads about Gaelic provision in the North – people – excepting CavanMan – are focussing on negative reasons for the dominant majority to deny the minority something. What harm will it do to make the 12th a Holiday in the ROI ? What harm will increasing provision of Gaelic do in the North ?

  • Davros

    So the sight of the Protestant working class, or anyone else for that matter, ‘celebrating’ an event which ushered in a political and economic system which has reduced most of their lives to one of long-term poverty, bad housing and low educational achievement, is indeed bizarre.

    Aye Millie , life was a doddle under systems of absolute Monarchy 🙂 Everybody ate meat every day, worked a 35 hour week, retired with a pension and all children had free schooling ….No mention of the Industrial revolution and the arrival of Capitalism as we know it in your equation ? No recognition that these may have contributed to conditions today ? 😉

  • Young Irelander

    The Battle of the Boyne was a dreadful moment in Irish history and laid the foundations for the mess that subsequently followed within this island. I think we should be trying to forget moments like that rather than glorifying them.

  • Young Irelander

    The Battle of the Boyne was a dreadful moment in Irish history and laid the foundations for the mess that subsequently followed within this island. I think we should be trying to forget moments like that rather than glorifying them.

  • Young Irelander

    The Battle of the Boyne was a dreadful moment in Irish history and laid the foundations for the mess that subsequently followed within this island. I think we should be trying to forget moments like that rather than glorifying them.

  • martin

    Davros,

    Did I hit a raw nerve-I know i have you beat when you get so melodramatic as for your –what kind of Republican supports any form of monarchy any -way, I never said that i Supported the return of THE O’NEILLS AND O’Donnels ,i just pointed out that they would have a much better claim than your LIZ of German extraction to be monarchs of Ulster.
    BY THE WAY SPAIN IS A republic with a monarchy, only difference is that JUAN Carlos doesnt cost his tax-payers millions unlike your Lizzy and her disfunctional family.

  • Davros

    Which part of the states are you from Martin ? I might be heading over there later in the year – It would be fun to buy you a beer !

  • Sol

    Im so stupid, I read it as the 12th of May, I was wondering what the hell happened on 12th May, The day before my mothers birthday? LOL

    Sol
    (Requires reading classes)

  • Millie

    Davros, I’m not lamenting feudalism but nor do I see the need to celebrate capitalism, unless I was Richard Branson or some earl living on land his family stole via wars and clearances generations ago. Either way it’s just not exciting to the rest of us.

  • martin

    DAVROS,

    Tyrone–TIR EOGHAN=OWEN’s county has not been acquired by the U.S.A

    unless you know something I dont.

    As for your arthurian mists of time argument–the O’NEILS and O’DONNELS descend from Nial of the Nine hostages (Further back is the Mileasians but records are scetchy) Nial is quite well documented historically as a 9th century Irish high king–no question about them not being of old stock–.

    by the way im down south at the moment finishing college exams will be home soon we must meet up though for that beer sometime,ive grown quite fond of you on a personal level,politics aside.

    another area of interest i have off the topic —whats your opinion of the last Yorkist king of England Richard 3 guilty or innocent of the murder of the princes in the tower??

  • Davros

    I’m not lamenting feudalism but nor do I see the need to celebrate capitalism

    Millie – you are one of the best informed posters here – good to see you posting more often these days – you know as well as I do that Capitalism as we know it wasn’t around in the days of the absolute monarchs and the Williamite wars 🙂 The Industrial revolution was a long way off ….And the pretence that most people in Ireland, Protestant or Roman Catholic, before the Williamite wars lived in anything else than poverty, poor housing and had little schooling is
    verging on dishonesty.
    Similarly – are you seriously trying to say that if James had won and we had an absolute Stuart Monarchy then Capitalism and the Industrial revolution would somehow have by-passed Ireland and this would be a land of milk and honey ?

  • Biffo

    Why don’t we, in Northern Ireland, return the compliment and have a day off to celebrate the battle of Yellow Ford,

    “..the greatest victory Gaelic Ulster ever achieved over the Crown and the most disastrous defeat the English ever suffered at the hands of the Irish…O’Donnell overran Connacht and, when the O’Mores and O’Connors rose in furious revolt, the plantation in Laois and Offaly disintegrated.”

    I’m sure unionist-minded slugger posters would welcome such a generous gesture to “recognise the other tradition” in Northern Ireland.

    I think nationalists would appreciate generous gestures every bit as much as unionists.

  • Biffo

    ..except it happened in January.

  • me

    a day for Oliver Cromwell would be great

  • Biffo

    No, sorry it was August, it’s perfect.

  • MARTIN

    DAVROS,

    Ireland would not have been a land flowing with milk and honey before the Williamite wars–after the collapse of the confederate government of Kilkenny and the death of Owen Roe o’Neill(secretly crowned high king of Ireland in 1643),Cromwell invaded Ireland 1n 1649 and brought devastation,confiscation, famine and the sword aprox 20% of the Irish people died in the 10 year tyranny of the protectorate’s rule in Ireland—to hell or to Connaght–When Charles 2 was restored in England he did nothing to restore the native Irish to land they had been turfed out of—including the Protestant people who had taken up the royalist cause—the masacre of Droheda had been Anglo-Irish protestant royalists along with the native population.

    Im sure the economy had not improved much by the time of Orange willie and Seamus a schacca(excriment in OIRISH)

  • Davros

    Hey ho, when you start on about Cromwell like that then I know you are a plastic paddy martin 🙂
    Learn some history and get back to me sonny.

  • mythspelt

    Just thought I’d throw this into the debate;12th July is also St.Veronicas Feast Day.So maybe if Galway Council bring onboard not only the ICTU,but the Catholic Church,The Orange Order,and both governments,well. . . they could be on to winner.

  • mythspelt

    12th July is also St.Veronicas Feast Day.So maybe if Galway Council bring onboard not only the ICTU,but the Catholic Church,The Orange Order,and both governments,well. . . they could be on to a winner.

  • mythspelt

    . . . and I only meant to post that once!

  • cladycowboy

    Dav

    ‘a plastic paddy martin :)’

    I tought BillyP had set you right on this one! 🙂

  • MARTIN

    DAVROS,

    actually i was trying to help you against millie– and my Cromwell stuff is historically accurate,maybe you should read it first-by the way where do you get this rediculous idea that im an American-read back through my posts I’ve told you im a native of the O’NEIL county —mines a Guiness

  • MARTIN

    Claddy cowboy, thank you for clearing up the matter of my nationality—-where did he get the American idea?—

  • Henry94

    mythspelt

    It is also the feast of St John Gualbert. A noble military knight he met the murderer of his brother on a Good Friday.

    He was about to slay him (in what could only be described as a tit-for-tat killing) when the assasian begged his pardon for the sake of Christ crucfied.

    Changed by God’s grace he embraced him as a brother in Christ and became a monk.

    Now that is someting we could learn from.

  • MARTIN

    Davros,

    I forgive you ,there is no need for you to go into hiding.

  • PS

    I like the idea in principle, simply beacuse I think that ALL holidays should be synchronised north and south.

    I agree however with Henry’s point that Monday is a better day for a holiday, however the 12th would seem to have the advantage in tradition.

  • mythspelt

    Henry94

    . . . . I did’nt know that.Good info.Thanks

  • Davros

    Martin – How could Charles II have restored anything to the Anglo-Irish protestant Royalists you claim were killed at Drogheda ? They were after all dead …

  • martin

    Im sure they had relatives, it took you all that time to come up with that one ,YOU MUST BE TIRED, if you apologise for your heinious mistake of referring to me as an American ,Ill let you go to bed and not slag your views on politics while your not here.

  • Davros

    As an example of how things could and should be done – a senior member* of the Roman Catholic church in Ireland participated in the Centenary celebrations for the lifting of the siege of Derry 🙂

    * Bishop McDevitt and several of his priests – and the Catholic Church only stopped in 1838 – some 24 years after the first ABOD ‘club’ was founded.

  • martin

    A .B.O.D

    Associated body of domestic servants ?

  • Davros

    it took you all that time to come up with that one

    LOL – I was reading Thomas Kinsella’s translation of Merriman’s The Midnight Court 😉

    Here’s some Heaney for you –

    ‘The English language
    belongs to us. You are raking at dead fires,

    rehearsing the old whinges at your age.
    That subject people stuff is a cod’s game,
    infantile, like this peasant pilgrimage. . . .’

    Seamus Heaney

  • martin

    HE EITHER FEARS HIS FAIT TO MUCH
    OR HIS DESERTS AREE SMALL
    WHO DARES NOT PUT IT TO THE TOUCH
    TO WIN OR LOOSE IT ALL.

    james Graham earl of montrose in 1644

    STICK WITH THE ERA DAV

  • Davros

    The era ? Cromwell ?
    Try this :

    The first time I met Oliver Cromwell
    The poor man was visibly distressed.
    ‘Buffun’ says he, ‘things are gone to the devil
    In England. So I popped over here for a rest.
    Say what you will about Ireland, where on
    Earth could a harassed statesman find peace like
    This in green unperturbed oblivion?
    Good Lord! I’m worn out from intrigue and work.
    I’d like a little estate down in Kerry,
    A spot of salmon-fishing, riding to hounds.
    Good Lord! The very thought makes me delighted.
    Being a sporting chap, I’d really love to
    Get behind one of the best sides in the land.
    Manager, perhaps, of Drogheda United?’

    ( Brendan Kennelly )

  • martin

    Davros,

    very good, pots just boiled ,we can resume in approx an hour-if you like,after ive had my weetabix-or shall we suspend hostilities till dawn–your call.

    IN ONE WORD THOUGH–Richard 3 =innocent or guilty.

    by the way I hope you dont get a late night call from the politically correct police–your first poem shows a bit of age discrimination in one of its lines

  • spirit-level

    Nurse, nurse, where’s my medication 😉

  • martin

    I guess he just had his cocoa and dozed off in front of the fire with his book of poetry–either that or theres been a late night call to band practice for the twelvth in Galway–they must have got the go ahead –God rest the poor creatuer

  • Bored

    The 12th as a holiday in the South – fair enough. The points made by Cavan man are reasonable. It may also have the advantage of drawing some of the bilious poison out of the current ‘celebrations’ in the North (burning tricolours and chernobylesque piles of tyres; kick-the-pope bands; masked gangs of semi-literate scum ratcheting up their annual campaign of sectarian violence in order to herald the upcoming ‘celebrations’; hordes of drunken, slack-jawed, dull-eyed vermin staggering round town centres pissing on the street, holding up traffic and generally being obnoxious etc. etc. etc.) Yeah, on second thoughts – why don’t we declare all of July a national holiday and pay for all interested parties to bugger off to Toremolinos, Tenerife or some other suitably dreadful hell-hole where in exchange for 200 Regal, a lifetime supply of Tennants and £500 in Argos vouchers they could undergo a voluntary sterilisation procedure – I’d vote for it…..

  • martin

    BORED,

    AH come on dont be getting the Orangemen confused with leaving and junior cert students after they finish their exams–their much better behaved

  • spirit-level

    Bored you got a lot of anger there dude. Can you tell me where it hurts?

  • Fanny

    I propose that in line with global recognition of the triumph of the Anglo-Saxon economic model not least as it has succeeded in the Celtic Tiger, the preposterous old socialist holiday of May Day be replaced throughout the island with a celebration on May 5th of ‘Paisley Day’, when everyone except northern Nationalists can join together to express their contempt for northern Nationalist – or “the most morally degenerate electorate west of Serbia”, as I believe the Dublin papers now call them.

    Ah, isn’t the progress of the union endlessly fascinating?

  • blue-kite

    Dear All

    I have a much better idea and a follow on from your posts.

    why not have a HOLIDAY FOR EACH BATTLE FOUGHT IN IRELAND…

    A quick check of my calendar would suggest these additional dates:

    16th Feb
    2nd May
    8th May
    23rd May
    29th May
    5th June
    11th June
    13th June
    18th June
    1st July
    2nd July
    26th July
    5th Aug
    14th Aug
    19th Sept
    25th Sept-Oct 2nd
    9th Oct
    24th Dec

    Before you comment, this was all I could do without getting very very bored. Anyway, its shows us that a good portion of the summer and autumn is off next year. Enjoy.

    BK