More interesting demographics

The Northern Ireland Statistics Agency has released further table breakdowns on the 2001 census requested by users, which show some interesting trends among the main religions.

The “all persons aged of working age in employment” table shows that in the 16-74 age group, Catholics make up 35.1% of those in “higher managerial and professional occupations”.

However, in the 16-40 age group this rises to 41.8% while in the same grouping, Catholics account for 50% of “small employers and own account workers”.

In the 60-65 group, only 26.1% of higher management is Catholic while 36.4% are small employers.

Catholics also make up 51.5% of all full-time students in the 16-40 group but worryingly 63.1% of those who have “never worked” and 60.8% of those considered “long-term unemployed”.

The table from all persons of working age shows that while numbering 42.4% of those working in “further and higher” education, Catholics make up 49.7% of those in “other teaching professions”.

The “All economically active persons of working age” table shows that Catholics make up 41.5% of the overall working age population but 48% of those aged 16-24 as opposed to 35.4% of those in the 45-64 age group.

  • Dead_I_Well_May_Be

    Sorry to barge in here but some of my posts on other threads seem to have disappeared.

    Do I have to be careful what I say on this site or face censorship or perhaps there are lots of technical glitches?

    I didn’t use bad language or call people names or use prejudiced language either.

    Thanks for any clarification.

  • Alex

    Hey

    The policy of the site is that users should ‘play the ball and not the man’. That basically means we welcome comments that are not simply person bashing.

    As far as possible we try to keep the comment’s main line of arguement, removing only parts which play the man.

    Hope that clarifies it for you, any further questions may be sent to Mick, his email is on the top right of the page.

  • Fraggle

    This brings a smile to my face. The information is also 4 years old. I wonder what the situation will be at the next census.

  • finn69

    Dead_I_Well_May_Be

    haha, don’t suppose your delete posts were in anyway anti-unionist, cos if they were say tata to them son they won’t see the light of day on this site

  • Blackadder

    “This brings a smile to my face. The information is also 4 years old. I wonder what the situation will be at the next census.”

    You can expect a very even split as the Catholic population continues to grow and the Protestant population starts to dwindle.

  • IJP

    finn69

    Have you even the remotest proof to back up your ludicrous argument about the editorial policy on this site?

    Wouldn’t like to think you just go around making things up now…

  • Achilles

    There are lies, damned lies and then stastics.

    The reason there are no subject related posts here is that 89% of the 45% of bloggers logged in today (21% of the oveall seasonally adjusted figure) cannot tell what these numbers mean.

    A further 5% don’t care and the rest are having tea.

  • Roger

    I would hardly call these old demographic polls ‘interesting’ their the same old rhetoric of Protestant population dwindling and Catholic one growing with certain areas showing catholics being discriminated against.

    These polls do nothing but to stir up unrest in the Unionist/protestant communities whom fear there culture is eroding.

  • George

    Roger,
    they are not polls or rhetoric, they are statistical tables extrapolated from the 2001 census by the Northern Ireland Statistics Agency and released on June 2.

    Also, it is interesting you look at the figures put up as trying to show that the Protestant population is dwindling or Catholics are discriminated against.

    Why not look at it from the point of view that the figures show that anti-discriminationary policy is working as younger Catholics are much more proportionally represented in the workforce than older ones?

    That’s what I got out of it, and what I found interesting.

    It seems the Catholic middle class are doing as well as their Protestant counterparts but poor Catholics still seem to be more deprived.

    Also, if my intention was to present figures to show dwindling Protestant numbers I would have factored in the numbers who refused to state their religion to the stats. I didn’t.

    In other words, when, for example the figure in the post says 51.5% of full-time students between 16 and 40 are Catholic, I could instead have written that just 43.7% are Protestant.

  • Roger

    George

    You can’t help mentioning the fact that Catholics yet again are somehow discriminated against but there is no mention whatsoever of the discrimination against protestants.

    The fact that there are more full time Catholic students than protestant is a pointless statisic as it is a) well know already b) there are more catholics between 16-24 than there are protestants.

    Maybe you could give a demographic breakdown of Magee university and how well treated the protestant population is there both in the university and halls of residence.

  • George

    Roger,
    I only said the statistics seem to show that those most deprived are more likely to be Catholic. That may or may not be down to some sort of religious discrimination but it could also be down to a host of other reasons.

    I would say while it can be strongly argued that all discriminatory religious barriers have been removed at this stage, the most deprived sections of Northern Ireland also need positive actions to help them bridge the gap.

    I believe the most deprived area in Northern Ireland, Whiterock, is overwhelmingly Protestant while less than 1% of West Belfast Protestants attend third level.

    These people aren’t deprived because of their religion, they are deprived because they are discriminated against when it comes to deciding which parts of NI society deserve support.

    There is still ongoing institutional and social discrimination against the most deprived communities in NI (and of course ROI) which has nothing to do with religion.

    It’s just that the history of NI means that there are more Catholics living in deprived areas even now.

    Maybe you could tell me about Magee University as I have never been there and no nothing about the place other than a lot of Dublin companies hire a lot of computer graduates from there.

    On the student statistics, I would draw from that that the likelyhood is that there will be even more Catholics in senior positions if there are so many going on to third level.