McGimpsey ahead in South Belfast?

From the UUP Press Office this evening: “Canvass returns undertaken by the Party point to a clear Unionist lead for Mr McGimpsey. But according to the raw data the SDLP are also close behind him due to a split Unionist vote. The news from the ground in South Belfast confirms the findings of the NIO’s private poll, which has also indicated a strong lead for McGimpsey ahead of the DUP”. That’s a bit different from what we’ve been getting from the bookies, who have him in third place at 6/1. Is now the time to grab those odds? (or check out Betfair to set your own odds)

  • yerman

    Rebecca
    I really admire your bravery for talking about DUP dirty tricks today of all days.

    Remind us exactly which party has been reported to the Electoral Commission and the Police today – and it wasnt by the DUP either!

    You dont work for Circle Creative Communications do you?

  • Hansolo

    It was Sinn Fein, you’ll read about it in tomorrows papers

  • Young Fogey

    The fact of the matter is that with Michael McGimpsey only a few hundred votes ahead of Alasdair McDonnell, Nationalists look well poised to snatch the seat.

    In an unattributed poll which makes the basic error of trying to estimate actual numbers of voters.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Clug,
    That was just one murder, what about the hundreds of innocent protestant victims in Fermanagh, do they not deserve an inquiry as well?

    Indeed,
    I have one word for you and that is PARANOIA , calm down with the whole age factor, yea I cant vote this time but we be able next time, does the thought of a Young Unionist here upset you, well there will be plenty more to come.

    Erm let me see, have you not came out of your house in the last week – its impossible to miss them, there everywhere! I personally dont care what shape your posters are like but to me it looks like the DUP went cheap on the posters: you only get what you pay for. Really there were more posters put up, never noticed – that means they’ve been taken down, why do yas bother with posters areas such as Garrison??

    I have undeniable evidence, that’s all I can say on the matter for there are individuals involved, you may know some of the contributors but do you know them all? Do you know for sure that they are not just playing along with Arlene’s pathetic little attempt to undermine the UU even more?

    You obviously have not read today’s newsletter (pg 10) were I quote “neither of us voted for the GFA and in my view of that decision off seven years ago has not changed” Maybe Tom has his own personal views on the Trimble leadership but that wont really be a problem soon enough. Maybe Tom puts party before self publicity.

    Yea I have already admitted that the DUP council vote will increase but I think you are getting a little over optimistic. Robinson will increase only because of the personal support Arlene has gained from her native Skea. I can’t see the ekn vote increase much. When you claim that the west vote will increase dramatically, by how much really? Would you call a couple dozen more votes a dramatic increase for remember the DUP couldn’t even reach the 400 mark last time. I am amazed that you think there have been bad UU candidates chosen in the west, what exactly is wrong with Alec and Derrick?? Derrick has experience as local cllr and this is the first chance Alec has had the chance to stand for he was previously employed in the civil service, just to mention Alec first joined the YU and has remained a member of the UU all his life. So once again why are these people bad choices??

    Watchman,
    I still have not read the book but here is a question – what have the DUP done to help the security situation here? Last time I looked there are police stations closing all over the place?

  • Indeed

    FYU,

    ‘Really there were more posters put up, never noticed – that means they’ve been taken down, why do yas bother with posters areas such as Garrison??’

    Well young ovens, if these posters have been taken down its only an extension of what has been happening across the county. If the opposition, both from witihn unionism and Nationalism/Republicanism, reckon the DUP havent a hope, why go to the bother of taking our posters down?
    We in the DUP beleive we should put posters up everywhere, and that includes Garrison. Are there not unionist voters in Garrison? We in the DUP dont forsake votes simply becasue they live in a predominently Nationalist area. Is this the UUP policy, or did the company putting them up not fancy venturing down to Garrison?

    ‘I have undeniable evidence, that’s all I can say on the matter for there are individuals involved, you may know some of the contributors but do you know them all? Do you know for sure that they are not just playing along with Arlene’s pathetic little attempt to undermine the UU even more?’

    So at least you admit the UU vote is being undermined. As for the contributors, I know 95% of them. Maybe you could give examples young man to back up this allegation? Or at least tell us how such information was derived?

    Interesting that you mention todays Newsletter. I particularly liked the part where Tom declares his undying love for the UUP, stating that he’ll never leave it nor forsake it. Isn’t that sweet. Pity he’s not as committed to his principles. You see kid, its not a crime to leave something you no longer agree with or belive represents your principles. Ever heard of Martin Luther?

    Re Erne West council election: DUP vote will increase dramatically. If you reckon a dozen, your arrogance, stupidity or plain complacency is going to leave you with a big shock come Monday week.
    As for UU candidates, neither of them inspire confidence. How are they getting on with their canvassing? Started yet?

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Indeed,

    I see you take great delight in publicising my name and I still don’t know yours!! You have something to hide?

    You do realise how pathetic your statement that people in Garrison should leave them up is! Thats like SF going into Ballinlamallard and telling the unionists to leave the SF posters up. Your arrogance is unbelievable. Have you many DUP posters up in Kilmacormick or Cornagrade? The UU do have posters up around the Garrison area were they are not causing trouble and surprise surprise they have stayed up. A see you have ignored the point I made about the appalling state the DUP are in.

    I dont admit that the vote is being undermined, i was saying that Arlene was undermining it. It would not be hard to know most of the contributors for they same to be the same most weeks – fernando, bert johnson etc. then with a few annons. I cant tell you over this how i got the information but dont worry I wasn’t slow about passing the message onto regal pass.

    I am wondering in what way did the DUP change from 2000 to 2003, I only see one big change; they became the biggest party, now this shows something about Arlenes loyalty, she could have joined the dup in 2000 but why did she wait til dec. 2003? The answers pretty obvious. Now I bet your going to start talking about how they were forced out – that’s Arlene’s pathetic excuse and don’t believe a word now that comes out of her mouth .

    Notice I said a couple dozen….. Your getting a little too optimistic if you think Brownlee can inspire people. I have asked a number of 50+ yr olds and they can’t remember him standing all those years ago. Of course the UUP have been canvassing here, on our road alone they have been on it 3 times! Twice the council candidates and then Tom came with them the third time, we then had the depressing brownlee round, Id say that will be the only time and also i dont think Arlene has been round this part canvassing. I thought every unionist votes counted? She mustn’t have much time for the Western Unionists.

    p.s – do the decent thing and reveal your true identity.

  • The other FYU

    As a loyal ulster unionist and a member of the FYU I would like to voice my concerns with the way politics is heading nowadays. There is a huge split in the Unionist parties. A prime example of this is the events that occured shortly after the last election. By this i am talking about the moving of certain members of the UU to the DUP. Lets face it, if the people in question had not been in the Ulster unionists in the first place there is probably not a chance that they would be MLAs now. (With the exception to Jeffrey Donaldson.) The split in particular in FST will once again ensure that Sinn Fein will get the seat and any unionist standing will be left in the back ground. I personally feel that this split is destroying the Ulster unionists and people like Jeffrey Donaldson and Arlene Forster are to blame. Good hardworking (loyal) unionists are being disadvantaged in this election like Tom Elliott because of this.
    I beleive that canvassing posters are an eye sore for otherwise nice towns. Why do people have to be intimidated by them when they want to go into their towns. Would it not be enough just to advertise in the local paper?

    A point to Indeed – Are you seriously comparing one of the most well known religious figures ever (Martin Luther) to Arlene Forster? Do you believe that she is an equal to Him?

    The other FYU

  • Enniskillen DUP

    FYU

    What on earth do you mean the DUP is in an “appalling” state? Where is your sense of reality boy? Being a member of that vibrant and youth full party I know first hand what a well organised party it is. We are gaining members in all our four local fermanagh branches at an overwhelming rate. You may also be interested to hear that nowhere is this growth of support more rapid than in ERNE WEST! You mention that Arlene has not been in Erne West. I must take dispute with this ill informed statement. Arlene has covered much of Erne west from Churchill/Derrygonnelly to Florencecourt and Belcoo. As for Tom Elliott he is a vertual anonymous in South Tyrone.
    If you didn’t already know Arlene was born in Rosslea, an area scurged by IRA ethnic cleansing. Her father was shot by the IRA and they were forced to move to Lisnaskea. Unlike Tom who lives in the Unionist Safe house of Ballinamallard Arlene knows all about the plight of unionists in border areas.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Firstly you claim you are suffolk DUP and then you encourage people to vote Diane Dodds surely you should be supporting Arlene?

    How do you work out that whichever FYU you are talking about is not a member of the UYUC? Ask one of the other YU commentars on this site. Dont make slanderous claims if you cant back them up.

    How we are so stuck in our ways? At least our leader hasnt annoyed nearly every other world leader including the late Pope.

  • Suffolk Loyalist

    FYU,
    Suffolk is a loyalist area in west belfast.Strong DUP territory.

  • The other FYU

    Enniskillen DUP- How on earth can you say that Tom Elliott is a traitor!
    Every one knew that he was anti agreement before he was elected and he still stands firm in HIS loyal unionist beliefs so how has he betrayed anyone?

    Traditional Beliefs??? Who is the party that has served northern Ireland the longest? That would be the Ulster Unionists. How can you say that Arlene Forster has traditional beliefs when she was the one who LEFT the traditional unionist party. If I can remind you, the UU believe in talking to solve problems, not use hardline tactics.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    S. Loyalist

    I see your previous posts have been removed and also you failed to explain your proof that I am not a member

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Apologies Thomas
    It was meant to read. “I see you have ignored the point I made about the appalling state the DUP POSTERS are in. (notice the word posters)

    Who have you heard saying that she has been in Churchill? That’s rubbish!!
    Erm you obviously haven’t been speaking to many people from ST then for if you had they would have told you that Tom is putting an enormous amount of time and energy into the area.

    Yes I knew she was born there, sure it was even in the reporter yesterday. So your criticising Tom now for living in a unionist stronghold – just to inform you if you don’t already know Tom was a member of the UDR for 18 years so I would say he has a pretty good idea of how the IRA works around the border .

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    FYU,

    The Suffolk thing was a joke. Do you really think somebody through manure over sue ramsey(i know its possible but it didnt happen)!!!!!

    The reason i know this so called Fermanagh Young Unionist isnt in the Young unionists is because up until about a year ago i was in the Young Unionists(unfortunatley) and i know for a fact me and my friend were the only two people in it from fermanagh were us cause that is what we were told!!

    So the bigger question is who are you and why do u claim to be a member of the FYU!!!

    Vote Foster

  • Enniskillen DUP

    The DUP is the party of traditional unionism. No surprise then when you have Stalwarts within unionism like Lord Molyneaux, Martin Smyth and the orange order grand master coming out backing unionist candidates.

    As for Tom Elliott, would you honestly want him representing you in parliament. He is so easily pushed and pulled by the UUP heirarcy within F+ST. He is the puppet of James Cooper who is to spinless to confront Arlene head on.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    FYU,

    “Enniskillen DUP” and “Former Fermanagh Young Unionist” are not the same person, why are you taking things from both their posts but only addressing Enniskillen DUP???

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Former YU
    Ya see there you go, you have admitted you left a year ago, a lot can happen in a year such as new people joining. Just to inform you in there is a Fermanagh Young Unionists branch being set up agin in fermanagh.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    FYU,

    For your information while i may have left(thank god) i member of my Flute Band is the Young Unionist representitive for Fermanagh; Gary Andrews( even though he doesnt give a monkeys, only reason he is there is becasue his dad is a counciller). After frequent questioning he has informed me that there is no new members, so i think i do know that you are not an official member Mr Ovens.

    Vote Foster X

  • The other FYU

    Yes “Enniskillen DUP” I do want Tom Elliott representing F + ST. As for saying that James Cooper is spineless. Get your facts straight before you write things. Tom Elliott and James Cooper are the epitimy of what is expected in an Ulster unionist. They will have the staying power to withstand the ups and downs of politics within their own party, unlike a few others who could be mentioned for taking the easy way out.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    FYU,

    For your information while i may have left(thank god) i member of my Flute Band is the Young Unionist representitive for Fermanagh; Gary Andrews( even though he doesnt give a monkeys, only reason he is there is becasue his dad is a counciller). After frequent questioning he has informed me that there is no new members, so i think i do know that you are not an official member Mr Ovens.

    Vote Foster X

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Thomas,
    It has to be said though Saulters statement was a personal one, noway did it reprent the Orange Orders Views. Also Molyneaux has been supporting UU candidates as well such as McCune and Burnside .

  • Castlereagh DUP

    Looks like 3 Robinsons for Castlereagh.
    Three cheers!!

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    The other FYU,

    If James Cooper( as Enniskillen DUP so perfectly described him, the man who is afraid of competitionn) and Tom Elliot(whos only policy seems to be farming) are the epitimy of what is expected in an Ulster unionist, then the party really has gone to the dogs.

    Staying power you say, so thats why Cooper is afraid to run this time becasue he doesnt want to get beat again, that really is some good staying power!!!

    And as form Tomm Elliot, as i said before he is the ONLY traitor in F/ST, anti-agreement yeah rite, as i said before he is the most pro agreement candidate you will ever find.

    Vote Foster…X

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Former YU

    He clearly doesnt ‘give a monkies’ if he hasnt noticed. In the last fortnight alone 2 new member in Fermanagh have joined. Ask Michael Shillidays he would be able to prove to you, also who are you anyway?

  • Young Fogey

    Looks like 3 Robinsons for Castlereagh.

    Bring back Joan Collins for a new series of Dynasty!

    Can we give the culshies their own thread? 😉

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Michael Shillidays, emmm, now which ones that?? Is that the arrogant one, the ignorant one, or the snobby one. Oh yes i remeber the YU all too well, even they were divided and falling apart, even they belived Foster was the better politician. Oh shocked you mat be, but i heard it all that fatefull weekend in the Unionist hall, i even went to the killyhevlin with them for dinner.

    Your apparent party(dont know if you can actuallt call it that anymore, well not after 5th May anyway) is divided and corrupt to the core. That very weekend while Tom Elliot was leaving me home (which i considered was very kind)he told me personally that he believed Arlene Foster had “no choice” when i quizzed him about the whole apparent “betrayel”, so before you go making accusations i think u should look closer to home!!!

    Vote Foster…X

  • Enniskillen DUP

    FYU,
    thank you for answering none of my questions.

    Michael Shillidays is one of the most ignorant and rude persons I have ever meet. I will not be talking to him.

  • The other FYU

    Tom Elliott is already an elected MLA and a member of the local council. This may have been why Tom Elliott was chosen, not that “Cooper is afraid to run this time” as you put it. Maybe the Ulster Unionists believed that he would be more suited to the task, as if you can recall he did get the most Unionist votes in the last election. Maybe this could why he is the candidate standing.

  • Enniskillen DUP

    FYU

    You really are building yourself up for an almighty fall. Role on May 6th…

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Former YU
    You do know that the UYUC was re-organised. So i think your present views may be slightly out of date.

    And imagine you accused me off lying!! The fact that you claim Tom admitted that Arlene had no choice. That’s like me claiming here that I rang the Queen this morning for a chat. Don’t be so unbelievably stupid.

    Also can I have your name so I can ask Tom about your claim myself?

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    I just cant wait till MAY 6th , the day we either get to say ha ha told u so becasue Arlene is obviuosly going to beat Tom into the ground like David “the Trimble slayer” Simpson will do to the mole man in Upper Bann. 10-1 10-1

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Em what question was i meant to answer thomas?

  • Enniskillen DUP

    FYU,
    The only unionist who stood as pro-agreement in the assembly elections got a mere 2110 votes! less than 10% of the unionist vote. Be in no doubt as to where unionist opinion is on this issue. Perhaps that is why Tom hasn’t had David Trimble down here yet.

  • Castlereagh DUP

    Anyone head anyhing lately from Michael Copeland???

  • Enniskillen DUP

    I’m affraid I am going to have to go soon. The DUP are going to around the rural voters of Maguiresbridge tonight.

  • Enniskillen DUP

    I’m affraid I am going to have to go soon. The DUP are going to around the rural voters of Maguiresbridge tonight.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    I dont care what you say Tom did say that to me, i was there you were not, unless you are his personal stalker(wouldnt be suprised). Oh yeah the next time you are talking to the Queen will u get her number for me please i need to talk to her about a certain 16 Labour peers(but thats a different matter)

    P.s. why should i give you my name when i dont know yours!!!

  • Enniskillen DUP

    Castlereagh DUP,
    No. Just perhaps he is in police custody. Perhaps….
    As for Sonia not much since that initial publicity stunt

  • Enniskillen DUP

    Castlereagh DUP,
    No. Just perhaps he is in police custody. Perhaps….
    As for Sonia not much since that initial publicity stunt

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Former YU
    You can’t make a ludicrous claim here without backing it up so I take your unwillingness to reveal a name as a sign that you made it all up. Prove me otherwise

    Thomas,
    Most of Toms votes would have been pro-gfa and then a number of Arlene’s would have been also. Most unionists here who are against the agreement would have voted for the DUP. If Arlene had stood for the DUP in 2003 then it would have been made perfectly clear that there were not enough anti-votes to get 2 MLA’s in.

  • Castlereagh DUP

    Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Have you seen any sign of Michael Copeland around your neck of the woods??

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Former YU
    See your lying again you do know my name, you called me by my name 35 mins ago! Its Mark Ovens and now yours maybe…? I just want you to admit it was a lie thats all.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    FYU,

    If you go to your great young unionists website and go to the “about” section. Maybe then u will see the pain i have experianced and will no longer dismiss my statements as lies!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Castlereagh DUP
    No, dont no whats happening with it now and lets be honest it probably wont come to anything for it hasnt been mentioned now for a while and if there actaully was a chance of some wrong doing then do you think the likes of Paisley and Robinson would have let it go so easily? I think not!

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    No comeback now Mr Ovens

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Ok there’s a picture on it but that does not prove anything. You probably aren’t even on it, I one very mysterious thing is – you claim that you left the YU’s over a year ago while to my knowledge that photograph was taken on November last year.

    Still no name I see, your as bad as ‘Indeed’

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    any comeback now Mr……… oh yea thats right youre afraid to tell anyone your name just because you will be found out to be a lier!

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Mr Ovens i am in that picture you even seen me today!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Just give me a name, instead of playing these pathetic games, sure according to you – you have nothing to hide, so whats the problem

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    I only saw 2 people out of that photo today, Thomas Hogg and someone else (from churchill).

    Now your either Hogg using another name or your the other person without mentioning the name.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Seeing as you do not have the intellectual capabilities to guess the obvious

    My name is I-A-N G-O-W i thought even you could guess that one!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Could you not have just said that at the very start! I still think your lying about the Elliott confession.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    i know he said it so i dont really care if you think i am lying or not!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    right then we will end the point there

    Oh yea didnt get the chance to ask you today, you wouldnt happen to be responsible for the unexplained disappearence of UU posters in the d’gonnly, c’hill area would you?

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Question Mr Ovens,

    If Mr Elliot is so active in Erne West how come there ar NO UUP posters in Churchill and we havnt seen him there yet only Mr Brownlee

  • A.U.

    FFYU and FFYU – please consider taking your discussion to e-mail.

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    I would never do such a thing!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Now come on Gow there was one at the end of your lane last week! there was another on down the road! Ask your neighbours, Alec baird was up canvassing on Tuesday and last week the Tom, Alec and derrick Nixon were all up walking through Churchill. I am starting to even doubt you are who you claim now for it is impossible to miss the posters!

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    For you info Mr Ovens i was up there today and i dint see any posters about!!!

    So how dare you question me!!!

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Thats my point, there was last week and there isnt any about today, some may have blew off but others have gone missing. I wonder why Tom didnt think about paying you a friendly visit, hmm thats a hard question

  • Former Fermanagh Young Unionist

    For your info Mr Ovens i never touched those posters but i would shake the hand of the person who did take them down.

    Why would Tom not pay me a “friendly visit” he doesnt know i am a DUP supporter he still thinks i am one of use (unfortunately). I would blame his ignorance!!!

  • A.U.

    FYU and FFYU – enough bickering. I’m going to start deleting your posts soon if this continues.
    Please discuss issues.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Well i take it then you will have left the YU’s Tom can check the members in his area.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Ok A.U we will stop now

  • FFYU

    dont worry i have

  • A.U.

    Thanks Guys 🙂

  • pakman

    FYU/ Ovens

    What a lovely day I had out and about the Sligo Road today. Sun was shining, the company good and the reception for Arlene excellent.

    There is a reason that Arlene is 12’s with Eastwoods compared to Tom at 25’s. I appreciate that you are too young for the bookies but that means that an objective source, interested in our cash not our politics, puts Arlene twice as likely to take F&ST than poor old Tom. Why then would any unionist waste a vote on the UUP unless their motivation is not to remove Gildernew but rather “punish” Arlene for leaving them behind.

    BTW the reason Cooper isn’t running is that he didn’t want to risk the humiliation of being beaten by a former employee. So he found a stooge who you say is deserving of unionist support.

  • IJP

    Hansolo

    It was Sinn Fein

    Ay, and the bank robbery was the UUP…

    The fact of the matter is that the DUPers have pulled their troops out of SB and are concentrating on LV. They are moving there and EA to make sure they hold JDs vote and put Beggs out.

    Eureka! Finally I work out your identity!

    I thought Comical Ali was in Dubai, not Amsterdam, but glad you’re safe, mate. And thanks for the entertainment during the Gulf War.

  • Paul P

    IJP

    LOL

  • Roger

    Mark Ovens

    Now I do know you not all of your relatives share your view as some of the Kerrs are supporting Arlene.

    By the way your family is highly respected within ALL unionist circles and I dont want to slag you off.

    Two points to make

    In Saturdays Newsletter Eastwood bookmakers rubished the poll done by the UUP and said that Spratt was well ahead of Mcgimpsey.

    Arlene Foster with the Bookmakers and via straw polls is WELL ahead of Tom Elliott.

    I personally know many orangemen and friends of Toms who are supporting Arlene and from an objective point of view she is the only unionist whom can win FST.

  • Hansolo

    IJP

    well it was SF, i told you so. No need to get so touchy.

    if you want to know who I am all you have to do is ask.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Now roger,

    I am interested about the claim that some of the Kerr’s are supporting Arlene, firstly the Kerr name was brought in through marriage so the Kerr’s you are referring to may not be actually be related to me, if you are talking about my relatives then i would like to know where you got that information form for my aunt would have always been brought up as a solid UU, saying that she may have recently changed her views.

    “Family is highly respected within ALL unionist circles”, could you expand that theory for its news to me, i didn’t think we got on with many DUP supporters. Since you seem to know a lot about my family you will realise that the area we live in is generally unionist with the vast majority being UU supporters.

    I doubt that there are many Orangemen that will vote for Arlene here, many men out off the Orders will give Tom their vote through Loyalty to their leader.

    I’m not denying that it Arlene will receive a lot of votes but so will Tom, just you wait and see the difference between them on Friday there may be a couple thousand between them and hopefully Tom will come out on top.

    Since we seem to be on first name terms and you seem to know a right bit about me, would you mind sharing a few details about yourself?

  • Roger

    fyu

    Betting is a serious game they would not put Arlene at 12/1 and Tom at 25/1 if they thought that Tom had a remote chance of coming in ahead of Arlene and it aint gonna happen.

    Yes I know your family has a solid background in the UUP and the orange order and you will not be swayed from the fact that Tom running in fst will see Gilderniew returned.

    To quote a member of your party i hope that this election will bring a reallignment within unionism.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Why is it certain people on this site keep running away from revealing their identities?

  • Roger

    Lets just say that I’m a DUP supporter and I want a unionist MP returned in FST and I believe the best chance of this happening is by voting Arlene.

    By the way I am from the Erne North area.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Wow thanks roger that only leaves around 4000 unionists to choose from, If you have nothing to hide then why to you just show your identity, Do i know you?

  • John S

    The S. Belfast UUP branch – the supposidly ‘die hard’ UUP supporters aren’t backing their own man and are instead coming out in favour of Jim Spratt, and it appears that (thanks to Smyth, a distinct dislike of McG (who can blame them) and a number of other issues) the electorate are generally of the same opinion. The reception on the streets yesterday seemed very good for the DUP and I would put my money on Jimmy topping the poll, with the SDLP close behind. The UUP are simply in denial. If McG had any ‘decency’ he’d have pulled out of the race in S.B. If the SDLP do get the seat the blame will lie soley with him.

  • John S

    The S. Belfast UUP branch – the supposidly ‘die hard’ UUP supporters aren’t backing their own man and are instead coming out in favour of Jim Spratt, and it appears that (thanks to Smyth, a distinct dislike of McG (who can blame them) and a number of other issues) the electorate are generally of the same opinion. The reception on the streets yesterday seemed very good for the DUP and I would put my money on Jimmy topping the poll, with the SDLP close behind. The UUP are simply in denial. If McG had any ‘decency’ he’d have pulled out of the race in S.B. If the SDLP do get the seat the blame will lie soley with him.

  • John S

    Hansolo,

    ”The fact of the matter is that the DUPers have pulled their troops out of SB and are concentrating on LV”

    … wasn’t that the DUP battle bus I saw in SB yesterday and wasnt that Spratt I saw walking through the streets of SB with a team of about 15 people behind him…??

  • WindsorRocker

    One sure thing, nobody in the DUP has been pulled out of South Belfast to go to LV. If anything it is the other way around! 😉

    While McGimpsey might have an idea about how HE is going to do judging by the receptions (and even then I think he is talking up his chances, there is no way their own “private polling” could estimate how other parties will do. The reaction at the doors ranges from “Good Luck” to a polite curt “Thank You”. Nobody who is against you goes into the detail of who else they are backing.

    Oh and Alex B, the SB DUP campaign consists of a hell of a lot more that just the Battlebus in Sandy Row. We have numbers out that I never saw when I was in the UUP campaigns.

    From pulling out of radio programmes to snide “splitter” jibes, McGimpsey hasn’t distinguished himself in this election!

  • Roger

    To hear Mcgimpsey you would think that he is running a sharp focused campaign to win the seat for unionism which is at threat from nationlists. Its hard to forget the bad old days of unionism with Reg, Trimble and Mcgimpsey at the helm and I’m sure most protestants don’t want a return to that.

    This nonsence of Decent people vote UUP is bad but Mcgimpseys son Gareth was worse describing the DUP and its supporters as extremist sectarian protestants.

    I hope Spratt wins this seat it would be good for unionism.

    Young Fermanagh Unionist.

    I live in the same area as your beloved MP candidate you probably now know who I am.
    I was talking to several people from Fermanagh tonight whom durring the last election had campaigned for Cooper they told me of their dissappointment in Tom standing and how they would be supporting Arlene.

    As one person said to me tonight ‘no harm to the cub but whos gonna listen to him if he got elected’ and shes quite correct.

    One thing that surprised me was the optimism that Gilderniew can be replaced by Arlene there is a feeling that if enough people back her you never know what might happen remember she only won by 58 votes the last time and with the expectant collapse of the UUP vote in FST Arlene can nick it but WE NEED TO VOTE FOR HER.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    Correction it was 53 votes and then take away the illegal votes the UU were tantalizing close to a victory and that was with another Unionist candidate. Your not Thomas Hogg are you? for you always seem to comment when Thomas comments.

    If i probably know who you are then why cant you just give a name? Oh yea i thought about it, I would say that the Kerr’s do not want their private views publicised on the internet!

    This suppose-it person you were talking to tonight any chance off a bit more detail? Are you sure it just wasn’t Arlene wearing a mask for you know Arlene does have a reputation for being two-faced!

  • The Hawk

    FYU:

    You need to spend more time at school on your grammar and spelling.

    You and your candidate are beginning to look rather desperate.

    If Arlene beats Tom, should she get a free run next time?

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    The obvious answer to that is yes but then a lot can happen in four years, Arlene might begin to annoy the people who will vote for her this election and they could then see what she is really like and then put their support in the UUP again. Its impossible to say, we will see what the circumstances are in 2009.

  • The Hawk

    Actually, Arlene should be an even more attractive candidate in 2009.

    This thread, believe it or not, is on South Belfast, which Arlene could have had if she had wanted.

    It is to her credit that she has stuck to F&ST and I am sure she will succeed.

  • Roger

    I do not know this Thomas guy you are refering to, I can’t give you any more information on the person I was talking to other than their son canvassed for Cooper in the last election. You seem to have conceeded the fact that Arlene is going to beat Tom in this election and your attacks are becoming a little sad Mr Ovens.

    I suppose it aint good for you to know that your relatives are backing Arlene.

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    The Hawk,
    Do you really think that the unionists in S.B would really want her, they would know what trouble she caused throughout her years in the UUP and then what does Arlene know anout S.B? Surley the DUP would have chosen a candidate which isnt the other side of the country.

    Roger,
    Its getting to the point now that its not worth replying to you, you keep running away from the point and dont worry next time im speaking to the Kerr’s I will ask them and then I will tell them where I heard it from.

  • The Hawk

    FYU:

    For your information the UUP in South Belfast chose a candidate who lives in Newtownards, quite some distance from the constituency.

  • Gonzo

    I doubt if you could find a party where that doesn’t happen! Certainly the DUP can’t attack on this issue.

  • bertie

    If I have got it right (maybe someone was posting in his name), has FYU posted to the effect that Arlene must be kicking herself that she did not stay in the UUP as she would be the UUP candidate. Is that not an admission that she would be chosen over TE and would therefore be considered by the UUP the better candidate?

  • Fermanagh Young Unionist

    The Hawk,
    Still Newtonards would be considered relatively close compared to Lisnaskea.

    Bertie,
    You’ve got it right; I honestly believe that she would have been selected as the uup candidate for two reasons.
    1. She came within a dozen votes from being selected last time, doesn’t mean I would see her as the better candidate, remember its also about party as well as personality.
    2. She might have been the only ‘suitable’ candidate in the eyes of the DUP not to go and do something unbelievably selfish like going and backing an independent.

  • Unionist

    Michael represents South Belfast on the council and has done for 12 years, if he had been on Ards council and was seeking election to South Belfast as M.P., or seeking the westminster vote in Strangford while still sitting on Belfast council that would be inexcusable. Only one party tries to have members representing different constituencies – the DUPes. Maybe its the lack of suitable candidates, I don’t know, but I do know they wont be getting my vote on Thursday. Ulster Unionists are the only option for pro-union people, irrespesctive of class, colour, religion – even sexuality 😉

  • Keith M

    Just a question for the psephologists amongst us, if as now seems likely that all thre McGimpseys lose on Thursday, will they be the first family to suffer three election defeats in a single UK general election?

  • Roger

    Just making a final plea before voting tomorrow to vote for the DUP right across Northern Ireland to prevent Sinn Fein Ira being returned as the largest party.

  • Roger

    Well Mcgimpsey and the UUP gave this seat to the SDLP however I do not believe the SDLP will hold it long and I feel the DUP will win next time.

    Micy mouse said he will be returning next time, will he never learn.