McDonnell broadsides Adams and Sinn Fein

If anybody thought Alisdair McDonnell was going to tiptoe softly to polling day to keep SF voters in his South Belfast constituency on his side, well, it doesn’t look as if that’s in the gameplan. Tonight he released a statement excoriating Gerry Admans and Sinn Fein’s tardy response to the McCartney killing.

A Better Way to a Better Ireland

SDLP PRESS STATEMENT

From Alisdair McDonnell:

ADAMS IS DUCKING CRITICAL QUESTIONS ON MCCARTNEY MURDER – MCDONNELL

Reacting to Gerry Adams’ latest statement on the McCartney case, given only to Daily Ireland, SDLP Deputy Leader Dr Alasdair McDonnell said:

“Gerry Adams must explain in a credible way the role played by a former treasurer for Sinn Fein in Belfast. It is clear that Sinn Fein are still not coming clean. Gerry Adams has not answered the relevant questions. He cannot simply answer the questions that suit him.

“Why did Gerry Adams wait until 14 days after the murder to comment?

“Why did he only wait until after the McCartney family had spoken out?

“How many involved in the murder were election workers for Alex Maskey?

“How many of those suspended were election workers for Alex Maskey?

“If Sinn Fein are really serious about cleaning up their act, why have they only withdrawn the likes of candidate Cora Groogan?

“Why have they have not withdrawn Alex Maskey?

“After all, Alex Maskey condemned the police searches of the houses of the McCartney murder suspects, refused to condemn rioters who obstructed the searches and misleadingly dismissed the murder of Robert McCartney as ‘knife culture’ and not the brutal slaying that it was.”

  • Chris Gaskin

    Poor Alasdair is obviously finding the doorsteps less receptive than many stoops would have you believe

  • Michael

    Alisdair McDonnell is not the man for this constituency, much better that it go to a Unionist in the interim, that it go to an utter Uncle Tom like Alisdair McDonnell

  • NewYorker

    Good questions directed to the right person.

    Here’s another question for the same person: Who ordered the clean-up and cover-up? It’s not just the lowlifes with the knives and bottles but also the honchos who pull their strings.

  • kitty

    Is this a surprise? He was bound to start the negative campaigning the closer the election got. Doorsteps not too receptive then Alastair?

  • peter

    The problem with Alistair is that he has counted his chickens before they hatched. S.Belfast is a strong Unionist seat. Where is Alister going to get the extra 6000 votes needed to win?.

    His back is up against the wall. Unionist turnout will be high.If Allister had of fought a quiet campaign he might have stood a chance. However alienating SF voters is not the way forward.

  • Scarlet

    It once amazed me that anyone would vote in Hitler, it now amazes me that anyone would vote Sinn Fein. There are alternatives and although I am not a great fan of the SDLP no one associated with them is going to do me serious harm. The worst one is likely to suffer is utter boredom. I know what the outcome of the coming election is going to be and it will be a disgraceful indictment of the people of Northern Ireland.

    We are going to tell the world that we are intolerant, inflexible and quite prepared to support by proxy all sorts of nefarious activity. Are so many of us smitten with Nelson’s eye syndrome?

  • peter

    And who in the world really cares about who we elect?. Most politicians in all countries are so dire and corrupt anyway.

  • El Matador

    It amazes me that when the SDLP stand up for democracy and have the ‘audacity’ to criticise Spin Féin, they are called all the names of the day, or it is claimed the response on the doorsteps is not good.

    On the contrary, response on the doorsteps is very good. Soft SF voters have turned their backs on the Provos and flocking to Alsdair in south Belfast. Even hard SF are intending to vote tactically for the SDLP.

    Alasdair has criticised Adams for no other reason than becasue he deserved it. Spin Féin conduct since the McCartney slaughter has been disgraceful, and the SDLP will continue to represent the needs and interests of nationalist people living under the provo shadow, despite vilification from the Spinners

  • Scarlet

    Peter

    Investors care

  • bigwhitedove

    El Matador,
    you appear to know quite a lot about the response on the door steps,can you tell me how well received John Hume was in Finaghy on Sunday?
    I dont think any SF votes will move to the SDLP never mind the so called soft ones as the candidate lost all credibility in 2001 and nearly lost his assembly seat in 2003!! Carmel now would have been different?
    I hear Alex Maskey was really well received on the Lisburn and Malone Roads on Saturday.
    Could you confirm if Alisdair is now speaking on behalf of the family?

  • pakman

    S.Belfast will go to the lead Unionist. The odds at Eastwoods’ for 10 DUP MPs seem generous.

  • El Matador

    As usual John Hume was received warmly.

    I dont think any SF votes will move to the SDLP never mind the so called soft ones

    The SDLP’s private polls and simple evidence from the doorsteps reveal a different story. Alasdair has won a lot of respect for his straight-talking and willingnes to confront the issues facing the residents of south Belfast. This is supported by the sterling work of SDLP councillors in the area.

    Maskey’s campaign has fallen apart in south Belfast, and they’re having to ship in paid workers from west Belfast to help canvassing.

    Could you confirm if Alisdair (sic) is now speaking on behalf of the family?

    Alasdair speaks on behalf of the people of south Belfast, on behalf of truth and justice, and on behalf of common decency.

  • peter

    Considering the Short Strand is in E.Belfast it should be Peter Robinson speaking for the family.

    Secondly their campaign for justice is being hi-jacked by the SDLP to bash SF.

    No one seems to know what went on in that pub are why McCartney was killed?. The obsession with his sad death by people for overtly political ends is nauseating.

    Leave it to the police and courts to sort out. Mad media speculation and wild statements by desperate politicians in losing campaigns only means that there will never be any justice. If this case ever comes to court the case will collapse due to the names that McDonnell and co have repeatedly mentioned.

    However by that time the election will be over.So McDonnell probably wont care.

  • El Matador

    Considering the Short Strand is in E.Belfast it should be Peter Robinson speaking for the family.

    In their hour of need, so called ‘representatives’ did nothing to help the McCartneys. Alasdair McDonnell stepped into the fray on a purely humanitarian basis.

    No one seems to know what went on in that pub are (sic) why McCartney was killed?

    Where have you been the past few months? Dozens of people know what went on, but none have come forward- hence the uproar about provo involvement and the cover-up.

    However by that time the election will be over.So McDonnell probably wont care

    That is an absolutely untrue and scurrilous remark- completely unfounded. Alasdair McDonnell stepped up to help this family when no one else would, and his prime motivation is getting justice for them.

  • Liam

    For crying out loud – stop trying to score stupid political points over this mans death!!

    But ask yourselves two pertinent questions and stop ignoring these:

    WHY is there no focus at all on the murder of Lisa Dorrian??

    WHY have the PSNI still not proferred charges in the case of Robert McCartney?? The PSNI should be called to account for their handling of this case!!

  • beano @ Everything Ulster

    If the McCartney’s thought the PSNI weren’t doing their job do you not think they’d take their case to the Ombudsman? I thought that’s what she was there for.

    “Considering the Short Strand is in E.Belfast it should be Peter Robinson speaking for the family.”
    It wouldn’t matter, you’d just accuse him of seeking to make political benefit from the man’s death instead of McDonnell.

    “The obsession with his sad death by people for overtly political ends is nauseating.”
    Almost as nauseating as the willingness of some to dismiss his death and sweep it under the carpet.

  • El Matador

    The PSNI should be called to account for their handling of this case!!

    The obsession with his sad death by people for overtly political ends is nauseating.

    The McCartneys are also slated for ‘daring’ to campaign for justice, and a smear campaign is being waged against them.

    The one thing that seems missing from all this is a criticism of those who are really to blame: THE KILLERS. If the provos had come clean from the start, there would be no need for politicians to take up the case. The PSNI wouldn’t be behind with the investigations. The McCartneys wouldn’t have to go from pillar to post looking help and support.

    The only people to blame in this are the provos, and any attempt to criticise anyone else is disgusting. The provos killed the man, the provos are covering up the truth. That’s what really matters. If they want to stop the political ‘capital’ being made or shut the McCartneys up, then COME CLEAN!

  • bigwhitedove

    El,
    I agree Sf should come clean with everything they know about what happened that night. If they do would your party accept it and accept that some of what the SDLP and the sisters have stated, as fact, may well be untrue?

    I would also like to see the SDLP person who was canvassing in Finaghy on Sunday come clean about some of the unsavoury aspects of his past or is your party prepared to “bury the hatchet” in relation to that one

  • PS

    Maskey’s campaign has fallen apart in south Belfast, and they’re having to ship in paid workers from west Belfast to help canvassing.

    El Matador

    That is a blantant lie and you know it. Why must you keep embarrasing yourself on a public forum?

  • El Matador

    That is a blantant lie and you know it.

    PS, I wouldn’t have thought Spin Féin knew what the difference between lies and truth is. Funny how on this forum when SFers are confronted with party lies, they simply gloss over them. And on various media Spin Féin reps tell blatant lies, such as on Seven Days when Maskey had to pulled up by Alasdair McDonnell for falsehoods, and on Question Time when McGuinness had to be censured by Mark Durkan for telling untruths.

    It’s well known that SF in south Belfast has serious probs. Apart from the fact they couldn’t even run their second candidate in Laganbank. Maskey’s clutching at straws at the electoral results will show this come 6th May.

  • Occasional Commenter

    I welcome political point scoring over murder and criminality. Why can politicians talk about health and education but not crime?

  • PS

    So you aren’t denying that your earlier assertion is untrue. SF in South belfast is alive and well and will increase its representation come May 5th.

    Any response to my offer on a side bet with terms hugely in your favour on the result of Newry and Armagh?

  • bigwhitedove

    Are the SDLP going to gloss over the fact that one of their senior members in South Belfast has a very violent history ? are they going to campaign on behalf of his victims?
    Is the OIRA an acceptable organisation? Do the victims of that organisation deserve justice? will the SDLP campaign for them?

  • carlosblancos

    Alastair may not be the master of finesse but I don’t think his back is against any wall and I think these are questions that need to be asked.

    Remember that Maskey’s improved performance last time didn’t just come from the old Lower Ormeau SF vote, it came from those who’d never voted SF before (and who live outside of Lower Ormeau). Those who voted SF in the last election for the 1st time are unlikely to voted SF this time because of McCartney. My predicton is a steady SF vote and a slightly increased SDLP vote. Whether thats enought for Alastair to win South Belfast is anyone’s guess. McGimspey isn’t looking the best this week and my hunch is the DUP are waiting for next time so their man will appear top dog.

  • Occasional Commenter

    bigwhitedove, who are you talking about?

  • carlosblancos

    Bigwhitedove,

    Care to elaborate on that statement? I’d be interested to hear who the SDLP candidate with the violent history was?

    And to answer your other questions:

    No the PIRA is not an acceptable organisation: it is an anachronistic twisted organisation whose only acheivement has been the unification of Unionism that will result post May 5th elections.

    Yes its victims deserve justice, just like all victims of the various paramilitary and state/paramilitary organisations who killed and maimed throughout the Troubles.

    And the SDLP does campaign on behalf of these and all victims. It was the SDLP who stopped the troubles and convinced the IRA how futile to the cause of Irish unity their informer ridden organisation was.

  • bigwhitedove

    Carlos two points

    1)What makes you think he is a candidate? I mentioned he was a senior member

    2)I asked about the OIRA!

  • Traditional Unionist

    S.Belfast will go to the lead Unionist. The odds at Eastwoods’ for 10 DUP MPs seem generous.

    repeat ad nauseum

  • El Matador

    SF in South belfast is alive and well

    I would disagree, but even so, it is more than can be said about Robert McCartney.

    What makes you think he is a candidate? I mentioned he was a senior member

    Who exactly are you talking about?

  • bigwhitedove

    Anyone any idea about which past president of QUB he is alleged to have been impersonating for and how it could possibly be related to the SDLP in South Belfast?

    Bomb charge student in voting inquiry

    By Gary Grattan, Education Correspondent

    QUEEN’S University Students Union today confirmed that
    one of the four people charged with conspiring to bomb
    London is being investigated over allegations of voting fraud
    in a student election.
    John Cousins, Permanent Secretary of the Union, today said
    that Dundalk man Darren Mulholland is one of the students
    currently under investigation over alleged personation in
    student elections.
    The 19-year-old was one of four people who appeared in a
    London court yesterday charged in connection with an
    alleged plot to bomb the city last Friday.
    The first-year student is one of five students under
    investigation over the claims.
    Mulholland’s photograph is said to be on one of a number of
    false student identity cards uncovered after the election.
    An election court, which was convened on the campus, has
    concluded its investigations and it is believed the
    university
    may take disciplinary action against certain individuals.
    Mulholland and his co-accused were remanded in custody
    until July 23 at Belmarsh Magistrate’s Court.
    They were all charged with conspiracy to cause explosions.
    Mulholland and two others are also charged with possession
    of explosive substances.

  • Circles

    From El Mat
    “SF in South belfast is alive and well

    I would disagree, but even so, it is more than can be said about Robert McCartney.”

    A cheap throw away smart crack about the murder of a man. Extremely bad taste El Matador, but also an extremely clear example of how this murder is being played simply as a point scorer against SF.
    Very cheap (and smacks of the bitter stench of desparation)

  • carlosblancos

    Bigwhitedove,

    Please excuse my mistake.

    But do you have any info on the senior SDLP member with a violent past?

  • Occasional Commenter

    Circles,
    El Mat is perfectly entitled to discuss crime as part of the election campaign. And what better way to do that then to discuss this particularly high profile crime?

    It could be said SF were playing for party political points by inviting the McCartneys and Robert’s partner to the Ard Fheis.

  • El Matador

    Circles: A cheap throw away smart crack about the murder of a man

    Look at my comments earlier in the thread to see my views on the case.

    BigWhite- I still don’t see how this story about a bomb plot has any relation to the SDLP. Explain.

  • peter

    The drinking partner of McCartney should be able to clear everything up. Why has he not come forward?. It only takes one honest statement to convict.

    As for other murders that are never mentioned, Well it just proves my point.This tragic killing has been hi jacked by the anti SF movement for their advantage.

    One sure bet. McDonnell will not win S.Belfast ever.

  • Occasional Commenter

    peter said: It only takes one honest statement to convict.

    That may be the case in Rafia kangaroo courts, but the courts need more than that, i.e. complete statements from everyone who was in the bar.

  • Dec

    Except the murder did not take place in the bar, but in a side alley so your point is irrelevant. I would have thought witness testimony from the surviving victim would be enough to warrant charges at least.

  • reds under the beds

    To EL Matador,

    ah go and get a life – the SDLP are falling apart at the seams. Alisdair McDonnell has no chance, why would nationalists vote for someone who has no interest in Irish unity?

    Sinn Féin shipping in ‘paid election workers’ – this is rich coming from a party who ploughs money into ad campaigns, spin doctors and professional poster putter uppers. Roll on May 5th to the demise of the Stoops

  • PatMcLarnon

    El Matador,

    The SDLP commissioned an opinion poll at the last Westminister elections that had them controlling the West of the Bann and winning seats hand over fist. I do believe Alasdair ewas even supposed to be elected then as well. The Irish News flogged the poll for all it was worth in order to help the SDLP. Result was the continued demise of the SDLP and the poll was discredited along with those who flogged it for all it was worth.

    I see you brought up the old chestnut about the response on the doorsteps etc etc, very favourable blah blah blah. Wasn’t that the line spun by SDLP bright young thing Martin Morgan during last years European elections. Apparently the SDLP had trurned the corner. Nationalists had come back to the SDLP. Result, Martin brought the SDLP to the worst result in their history.

    The SDLP are rubbered and the sad thing is that despite recognising that fact you feel compelled to come on here to embarrass yourself to flog the party line.

  • bigwhitedove

    El Mat.
    Its not the bomb plot its the vote rigging at QUB DOH
    Who were the votes rigged for and whats he doing now?

    Carlos,
    you obviously know to whom I refer as the often quoted “dogs on the street” will tell you especially the(greyhound) dogs in the ormeau & market area

    Are the sticks a criminal conspiracy?

  • hensons

    the comment that someone made above about SF sending in paid workers from W belfast is a lie.

    Unlike SDLP, FF, FG, LAb Sinn Fein never have or will be paying people to put up posters, deliver leaflets or canvass.

  • El Matador

    Who were the votes rigged for and whats he doing now?

    Why are you asking me? You came up with the idea that this story was somehow linked to someone in the SDLP.

    Do reveal what you mean

  • El Matador

    The SDLP are rubbered and the sad thing is that despite recognising that fact you feel compelled to come on here to embarrass yourself to flog the party line.

    I apologise profusely. Sorry for actually having an opinion which is at odds with Spin Féin. So now apparently it’s an embarassment to support the SDLP party line. Charming.

    Pity the provos don’t have any embarassment about massacring innocent people for thirty years. The SDLP have nothing to be embarrassed about. at least they can hold their heads high and don’t have to cover-up their past.

  • john

    El Mat

    Its difficult for the SDLP to hold their heads high when they are clearly sinking fast

  • A.U.

    Can you substantiate any of these claims Paul Panther ? Otherwise the post will be removed.

  • Paul Panther

    The comments are vague enough as to not warrant a lible case.
    There are about 25 SDLP councillors in the greater Belfast area.

  • A.U.

    Not good enough paul panther. They are gone.
    We need to maintain standards , especially in the build-up to an election.