All the Kings men….

With all the talk of repealing the act of succession and also the death of the Pope, the British media has recently taken an interest in religious and constitutional affairs. Peter Oborne in the Telegraph writes that Tony Blair has “betrayed the crown and the country“. Damian Thompson also looks at the religio-constitutional relationship between the Monarchy and the Prime Minister. Guardian writer Mark Almond writes on “The strange death of Protestant England“.

  • smcgiff

    Tell me this is an attempt at satire?

    Is the irony of the sentence, ‘The papacy stands for autocratic and hierarchical principles and attachments to ancient dogmas that are alien to the British state,’ in relation to the article in question lost on Peter?

  • beano @ Everything Ulster

    LOL i did wonder at the criticism of the catholic church for being hierarchical and at the same time promoting the monarchy!

    To be fair though, he does make some points – like where should an Anglican’s loyalties lie in such a conflict of appointments? When did the troops become the the Prime Minister’s? (did they change the oath of allegiance or is this in Tony’s manifesto for his next term as Preside… er, PM?)

    I was puzzled by the amount of coverage for the Pope’s death in the British media and wondered if it had been a slow news day on the mainland. I could accept it here; I don’t hate the Pope, he just isn’t relevant to me – but he obviously is to the 0.8m (or whatever the figure is) catholics here. On the mainland, though, catholocism is a minority religion (10%?)

  • Henry94

    For almost four centuries, English Catholics have been praying for the reconversion of their homeland from Protestantism.

    Conversion from paganism is probably a more fervernt prayer. What the death of the Pope showed above all is the extent to which serious Catholics and serious Protestants the world over have realised that what unites them is now far more important than what divides them.

    If a believing orthodox Catholic in Northern Ireland was to vote on ethical policy alone then Nigel Dodds would be a more far obvious choice than Gerry Kelly.

    In a neat historical parodox someone who wanted to live under the closest they could get to Rome rule would be advocating an independent Northern Ireland under the DUP.

  • Davros

    In a neat historical parodox someone who wanted to live under the closest they could get to Rome rule would be advocating an independent Northern Ireland under the DUP.

    Good point Henry.

  • beano @ Everything Ulster

    I’ve long thought that Paisley is a wannabe pope in disguise. If proof were needed, I have 2 words: Line Dancing.

  • Davros

    That said Beano, I don’t think that the Free P’s have ever claimed that Paisley is God on Earth as the New York Catechism in the early 20th century claimed for the Pope.

  • Gonzo

    beano

    Yeah, but he MEANT to say lap dancing!

  • Alan2

    “In a neat historical parodox someone who wanted to live under the closest they could get to Rome rule would be advocating an independent Northern Ireland under the DUP.”

    The difference being that the Free P`s openly elect their moderator and don`t claim him to be above all men, kings and rulers.

    They also realise that to force people to believe doesnt work and only corrupts the Church. Thats why it works. It stands for something and it only wants people that want to be there.

    Lastly DUP does not equal Free P. There are alot of Free P`s in the DUP but just as many don`t like politics and many DUP members are nominally religious at best.

    This is an interesting article about how Protestants and Catholics are united in the states.