Rugby star to turn out for Ulster Unionists

If there’s a better political party blog than that of the Young Unionists, we’d like to hear of it. Here they announce the decision of Tyrone Howe to stand for election in the relatively safe UUP seat of Dromore, Co Down. And of course they were still dining out of the Jim Allister coup on Sunday. Clicking on the jimallister.com site now takes you to the YUs, where you can view the original notice on their blog.

  • Two Nations

    has anybody heard any Tim Collins/UUP rumours? is there any chance he may stand?

  • yerman

    Its unlikely Tim Collins is going to run for a Local Council for the UUP after telling them where to get off when they were courting him to run for Westminster in East Belfast.

  • Two Nations

    I was talking about Westminster.

    I had not heard that. I had heard about the Lagan Valley debacle but not that one. could they not find him a suitable seat or could he not bothered with it all?

  • Bob Wilson

    I think the reason Tim Collins is not standing for the UUP is that he is an ambitious man.

  • Karl Rove

    Yes the DUP are bad men. They want to go into government with the IRA. This is Wrong.

    They were only a polaroid away from it before Christmas.

    Ulster won’t be fooled twice.

    DUP candidates can’t compare to UUP ones.

    Unionists west of the Bann know they have to vote for the SDLP in certain circumstances. It’s time to smash Sinn Fein!

    David Trimble is widely admired. And liked. And will be leader of the party this time next year. There will be a party this time next year. We helped make Northern Ireland what she is today. A century of service.

    The UUP haven’t made mistakes. We have been let down by: the British government; the Irish government; the American government; the SDLP; Sinn Fein; the IRA; intransigent Unionists.

    Don’t be DUPed!

    No one can take Gerry Adams’ latest statement seriously.

    It was a brave risk for us to take to go into government with Sinn Fein in the past. We had the courage to expose them for what they are.

    It’s time to unite Northern Ireland, not divide it.

    The decent thing to do is to vote UUP. The indecent thing is not to do so.

    The UUP will not not lose seats, we will win them.

    We are the party people outside Northern Ireland respect and trust. We have enhanced Northern Ireland’s reputation overseas.

    We are the party of Jim Nicholson. And John Laird. And Lord Ballyedmond, whose generosity and charm are renowned throughout the Province and beyond.

    Jeffrey Donaldson has no opinions now that he is in the DUP. Why wasn’t he like this in the UUP?

    Save our grammar schools!

    The UUP is now, has been, and will forever remain opposed, on principle, to any change from water rates.

    Karl Rove

  • Keith M

    “DUP candidates can’t compare to UUP ones.”. True enough but very few people can be compared with UUP candidates. The only comparision I can make is a bag of old apples. Full of duds, wanted by no one and long past their “sell by” date.

  • Karl Rove

    I should admit that my post above originally used to be here. For some mysterious reason, the younger members of my party have disabled the comments section there. Still, not to worry – onwards to victory! Don’t be DUPed! A Century of Service! And there’s more McGimpseys were they came from …….

    Karl Rove

  • G-Dawg

    what next… a star GAA player standing for Sinn fein, Tyrone Howe standing is just an election stunt,he should be concentrating on his rugby career..there is a place on the wing, wide open on the irish team,perhaps that should be his goal.

  • strand1

    Any man that stands tall & proud to the echoes of Amhran na bhfiann is good enough for me.

  • Sam Maguire

    You’re right G-Dawg, imagine the outraged comments if, in theory, Peter the Great was to actually stand for Sinn Fein rather than stand in a photograph with one of their candidates!!!

  • Ted

    G-dawg

    This isn’t just a stunt! T-bone is following in the footsteps of some famous Ulster rugger-buggers in getting into politics.

    Davy Tweed – Raymond Ferguson – Trevor Ringland – James Cooper (Campbell College Medallion B’s)

    The list is endless (and talentless!)

  • G-Dawg

    perhaps we should get Peter Canavan,Kieran Mc Geeney,Paddy Bradley,Stephen Maguire and some other GAA Stars to stand for the nationalist parties.

  • Davros

    Any man that stands tall & proud to the echoes of Amhran na bhfiann is good enough for me.

    interesting history – republican enforcers were sent round to ensure cinemas played it rather than God Save Ireland. Some things never change 😉 Some do – it was originally written mainly in English.

  • franc

    Davros

    You sound like a man who has totally lost the plot!!!!

  • Whistleblower

    Michael Shilliday is the editor of the YU weblog!

  • yerman

    “Michael Shilliday is the editor of the YU weblog!”

    Hence the attack from the ‘Editor’ of the website on the appointment of a Victims Commissioner.

  • Davros

    Davros

    You sound like a man who has totally lost the plot!!!!

    Why’s that franc ? It’s an anthem with a murky past.

  • franc

    I think as with most aspects of our past,whether it be anthems,parties or people,all have some skeletons in the cupboard or murky past,but hey thats history.

    But at least we have an anthem which represents our nation,unlike the six counties which has niether anthem nor flag.

  • Davros

    It represents the Republic of Ireland, nothing more and nothing less Franc. It certainly doesn’t represent all the people of Ireland.

  • Chris Gaskin

    Davros

    Does god save the queen represent all the people of britan? 😉

  • Davros

    Nope Chris, most certainly not. Glad to see you made it back safely from the Great Satan’s backyard!

  • Chris Gaskin

    I almost didn’t 😉

  • Davros

    Do tell ! E mail me LOL

  • franc

    As much as it may grieve you Davros, it also represents a large proportion of the population within the six counties

  • Davros

    franc – a national anthem should be acceptable to all surely ? That’s why both the tricolour and amhran are not suitable for the 32 counties IMO.

    Incidentally – I passed two tricolours today – one definitely Green white and orange and the other definitely green white and yellow. Isn’t that an interesting difference ?

  • Ted

    Davros

    You passed two tricolours! Just goes to show you have wrong John Hume was!

  • franc

    Davros
    Do you accept the right of people from any part of this island, who’s allegiance lies with the irish flag.

    Hope you had a good day flag spotting ???

  • Davros

    Do you accept the right of people from any part of this island, who’s allegiance lies with the irish flag.

    can you finish the question please ?

  • franc

    Davros

    Do you have any problems with those who regard the irish flag as the flag of the whole island?

    Do you believe that people have the right to show there allegiance to this flag – specifically within a six counties,if they so wish?

  • Davros

    Do you have any problems with those who regard the irish flag as the flag of the whole island?

    No more than I have with those who believe that the Union Flag is the Flag of all of the British Isles.
    People can pledge allegiance to whatever flag they wish. What they don’t have the right to do is force it upon others franc.

    Do you believe that people have the right to show there allegiance to this flag – specifically within a six counties,if they so wish?

    That is a considerably more complex issue. Flag flying is territorial and I would prefer concensus. I don’t think, for example, that flying a tricolour to get one over on unionists/protestants is any more acceptable than loyalist flags being erected around RC areas.

  • franc

    Davros
    I wouldn’t disagree with your answers,flags are abused on all sides and Yes it’s a complex issue.
    I have no problem with a community who’s allegiance lies within a British context,but it also has to be accepted that a community who do not wish to be part of a British state have the same right to express and exercise there right to be Irish

  • Davros

    100 % agree with you with one small proviso ….
    Your wrote:

    it also has to be accepted that a community who do not wish to be part of a British state have the same right to express and exercise there right to be Irish

    I would find it easier to agree with :

    it also has to be accepted that a community who do not wish to be part of a British state have the same right to express and exercise there right to be what they consider to be Irish.

    Otherwise you are denying many people who don’t feel that their “Britishness” precludes them from
    being Irish as well.

    If, as we are under the GFA, I have to choose an allegiance between ‘unionist’ Britishness or ‘nationalist’ Irishness, I’ll choose Britishness. But I consider myself to be every bit as Irish as any Irish Nationalist or republican – and more Irish than a few such as Pat Doherty, no disrespect intended to his Scottish roots.

    I would suggest that the challenge is to build an “Irish” identity with which the two poles can identify and find acceptable.

  • franc

    It was not intended to exclude those who feel themselves to be both British and Irish.

    As you mentioned earlier,its a complex issue.

    However many Nationalists don’t ‘consider’ themselves to be Irish they simply ‘are’ Irish.This of course applies to those from the Unionist tradition who ‘are’ British.

    Communities who DO regard themselves as exclusively Irish or British should of course have an equal right to express there traditions.

  • Davros

    Franc- how do we get round the problem that their definition of what it is to be Irish excludes those of us who see no contradiction in being both ?

  • franc

    I Don’t think it does exclude anyone.People have there own definitions and beliefs as to how British or Irish they feel,some more so and some less so.As an Irish Nationalist i believe that my future lies within an all Ireland basis, but i of course accept the rights of Unionists who are happy with the present constitutional position.
    While there has to be compromise in trying to achieve a stable and strong working relationship within the present system,
    there is a sizable proportion within the six counties who bear no allegience to the British state and therefore,as within any democracy, they have the right to try and change that system of rule.

  • Davros

    I Don’t think it does exclude anyone.

    From my side of the fence it comes across as being an either/or choice Franc. That’s the point of nationalism. It doesn’t just define by including but also by excluding.

  • franc

    But Davros,do you accept a peoples right to seek change?