Deeny will not be a single issue candidate

In a letter to the Newsletter, Dr. Kieran Deeny has said he is not a single issue candidate and that rather than trying to score political points over the UUP, the DUP would be better advised to acquaint themselves with his political health objectives.

He also calls for both the UUP and DUP to stand down and allow him run on his own against the “abstentionist MP”.

Deeny claims the DUP have misrepresented him by implying that he is seeking “to acquire modernday health care for the people in Tyrone by denying the Fermanagh population these same health care rights”.

“Secondly, and to both unionist parties – I will not be a single issue candidate in the forthcoming election and so let me bury this allegation now.

“It is fine to focus completely and entirely on a single issue when aiming for one of six Assembly seats. As an MP comes added responsibility and I will not shirk that responsibility and will extend my agenda and objectives to well beyond a single issue.

“I have many unionists on my campaign team and others who have pledged their support. Knowing that a vote for their usual party may help re-elect the present MP, it still has been described to me by many of the unionist tradition as a “win-win” situation where unionist voters in West Tyrone can vote for the person most likely to acquire modern-day health and hospital services for their families and, at the same time, be able to remove the present abstentionist MP.

“Indeed, many people from right across the whole community are saying that we must now have representation for West Tyrone in Westminster.

“Unionists in Omagh and West Tyrone, overall, would understand it if both unionist parties stood down in West Tyrone for this election.

“The two unionist parties have it within their power to help all of the people in West Tyrone by standing down and contributing in a major way to the full and professional representation of all of our people in Westminster.”

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Single issue candidates can be successful
Unionist co-operation still in play?
Unionist pact could end Sinn Fein veto

  • PaddyCanuck

    He has a new single issue, defeat Sinn Fein!

    He can play the abtentionist card all he likes, but the fact is a single independant MP from West Tyrone, or any Irish Party for that matter, has as much chance of affecting a change in British Health Care policy through the British Parliament, as I do of landing a night out with Angelina Jolie, or Northern Ireland winning the World Cup.

    Only in the context of All Ireland institutions, and Irish representation in Irish institutions, can Irish people determine their own future, and the programs and policies which will sculpt that future.

    Sinn Fein is the party which will deliver that future, and will place real sovereignty in the hands of the people of West Tyrone.

    The Irish in the British parliament have never delivered anything of substance. They did not change Thatchers policies, they will not change those of Blair, Brown or Howard. Anyone who wishes to contradict me, some examples please.

  • Ringo

    Didn’t the Irish in Westminster have a crucial role in supporting Major’s minority government?

  • PaddyCanuck

    What was there reward for doing so, any major change in British Policy, or did major just throw the lap dog a bone?

    That bone happened to be the exclusion, and continued disenfranchisement of Nationalists in Ireland.

    Is that the best you can come up with?

  • Everything Ulster (formerly Beano)

    Actually I think it would send quite a potent statement to the UK government if unionists and nationalists could overcome their petty tribalisms to vote for someone independent fighting for a real cause that affects people every day.

    I have yet to study all of his policies but it seems likely that he could command popular support in West Tyrone, and if the DUP can see past their own ambitions to destroy the UU and compromise for once, we could see the absentee MP ousted and the people there actually getting some representation.

    It’s a pity the provo propaganda machine has already come out in such force. What possible reason have the Sinners for standing in his way in West Tyrone? It’s not like they’re going to achieve any more for their constituents in Westminster!

  • Roger W. Christ XVII

    “Sinn Fein is the party which will deliver that future”

    How ? Rightly or wrongly Sinn Fein have been frozen out of politics in the North and South. Don’t you think these people are serious when they say Sinn Fein is going nowhere until it sorts out the criminality and the IRA’s ongoing existence ?

    Incidentally I believe rather strongly that the constituents of West Tyrone, irrespective of how republican they are, would rather have the NHS than the privately funded mess that exists in the RoI. So how can all-Ireland institutions achieve a damn thing in this respect ?

  • Jacko

    Other than “to defeat Sinn Fein” I can see no argument for giving this guy a free run.
    The same argument just as readily applies to giving any of the other non-SF candidates a free run.
    He’s a doctor, so what! He’ll be another voice in the wilderness at Westminster.
    If he wants to play at politics let him play by the same rules as everyone else.

    His single issue (a cause long lost, by the way) is beginning to smack of self-promotion to me.

  • lámh dearg

    Well if we’re going on track records, neither Dr Deeney, nor any Westminster MP, nor Atilla the Hun could be any worse than Bairbre de Brún, our last local Minister of Health.

    She famously decided the best way to avoid making a mistake was to avoid doing anything (well she did take one decision to be fair). Our health service has been paying for her incompetence and inaction ever since. I believe even SF would have moved her if they could have spun it right.

    Dr Deeney’s campaign was discussed in another thread here over the weekend, he has no hope of saving Tyrone County Hospital but if he follows, as he appears to want to, the example of the guy in Kidderminster, he may punch above the average NI weight in Westminster, with membership of the Commons’ Select Committee on Health a strong and influential possibility.

    And the real health battle in Tyrone will be about access, with day-case provision, improved ambulance services and better infrastructure, a battle with a reasonable chance of success, – if the local MP makes an effort.

  • Henry94

    The danger for the DUP is that if they cave in to David Trimble’s demand that they stand down in West Tyrone, Foyle, FST and NA will lose their position as the biggest party.

  • Everything Ulster (formerly Beano)

    I’m cautious about backing Deeny since I can’t seem to find any major policy document. He says he will not be a single issue candidate, but we’re still waiting for his position on other issues – like Northern Ireland’s stadium, for example 😉 – other than cross-border co-operation on health, the details of which are non-existant and the story came as a scare story from the DUP.

  • Keith M

    I see no reason why the DUP should stand aside if West Tyrone. It is up to every political party to try and convince as many people as possible of the merits of its policies. Standing aside (by any party) is simnply another form of disenfranchisement.

  • Everything Ulster (formerly Beano)

    Or trying to keep criminal/terrorist apologists out of government..
    In a first past the post system like this, sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. DUP voters will surely be less disenfranchised with an independent MP than they would be with a Sinner! Face reality, because that’s the choice they’re going to have to make.
    I hope the DUP do not let ego get in the way of this, assuming Deeny’s policies are reasonable.

  • Keith M

    EU, your post does not make sense to me. Are you genuinely saying that the DUP voters are better off NOT having their own candidate in the field? I know N.I. is the land of zero sum poltics, but this defies any logic I can think of.

    The DUP should run a candidate and trust the electors to decide if they want to put representation or policies first. Voters are still free to cast a tactical vote for Deeny if representation is more important to them.

  • beano @ Everything Ulster

    I’m saying the DUP should make the case for supporting Deeny. If their voters prepare to make some point in the old sectarian headcount then so be it.

    To me, as a unionist, I’d rather see someone with principles elected than have had a chance to waste my vote on someone I preferred but who was never going to stand a chance.

  • Jimmy Sands

    I don’t think the complaint is that he’s a single issue candidate. Let’s face it, virtually all NI elections since its inception have been won by single issue candidates. The complaint seems to be that he’s chosen a different issue.

  • Rebecca Black

    PaddyCanuck

    I fail to see why you and our sinn fein posters get so outraged at the idea of a unionist pact…..Sinn Fein did exactly the same thing when Bobby Sands ran in Fermanagh-West Tyrone in the 80s, the only difference is unionists are sorting it out by negotiation while Sinn Fein terrified the SDLP candidate out of running.

  • Rebecca Black

    PaddyCanuck

    I fail to see why you and our sinn fein posters get so outraged at the idea of a unionist pact…..Sinn Fein did exactly the same thing when Bobby Sands ran in Fermanagh-West Tyrone in the 80s, the only difference is unionists are sorting it out by negotiation while Sinn Fein terrified the SDLP candidate out of running.

  • PaddyCanuck

    Rebecca, I am not a bit outraged, that mister Deeny wants to be an anti Sinn Fein candidate, as part of a unionist pact.

    If the SDLP join this unionist pact as well, I am sure Nationalist voters will rally behind the only party which seeks to maximalise change for nationalists, the only party that is working in all parts of the Island to build an impetus for all Ireland istitutions, and for the party that is seeking to deliver an acceptable and an accountable police force, and an end to misrule by unionists and westminster\whitehall\NIO.

    It is only in the context of political sovereignity being placed in the hands of Irish people, unionist and nationalist alike, that will see people in West Tyrone and other areas being able to deliver social, economic and political infrastructure that they deserve and can call their own.

    Trying to send an agreed unionist\sdlp candidate to the wilderness that is westminster can only be seen as an attempt to disenfranchise, and exclude the nationalist and republican voters of west tyrone. Those voters will eject these attempts at the polls.

  • beano @ Everything Ulster

    People who vote for Sinn Fein at Westminster disenfranchise themselves, they don’t need anyone else to do that for them, quit mope-ing. Why is the fact that the rest of us can try and reach agreement on something so threatening to you?

  • New Yorker

    PaddyCanuck,

    I don’t think “Nationalist” voters want to be intimidated, murdered, their banks robbed, children beaten and be represented by people without any credibility, ethics or intelligence at Westminster. That requires a candidate of higher principles and character, which excludes the party you favor, but would include the good doctor.

  • Jimmy Sands

    Paddy, what do you understand the word “disenfranchise” to mean?

  • Rebecca Black

    Paddy

    Maybe the papers in Toronto aren’t as good as I remember concerning news from Northern Ireland so you should know that uninonists are not recommending unionist voters to vote for the SDLP – that would be a nonsense and would damage both participants. Deeny attracts cross community support because he is non party political and because he is running on an issue that people are very concerned about.

    Besides the people of West Tyrone deserve to have their voice heard in Westminster.

  • franc

    sss

  • lámh dearg

    Paddy posts

    “It is only in the context of political sovereignity being placed in the hands of Irish people, unionist and nationalist alike, that will see people in West Tyrone and other areas being able to deliver social, economic and political infrastructure that they deserve and can call their own.”

    So how come Barbara failed so miserably to deliver the health infrastructure the people of Tyrone deserve?

  • franc

    Fairly simple.sdlp/uup/dup stand aside.Deeny V Doherty.Sinn Fein percentage of the vote is certain to increase irrespective of the final result, so the shinners can still claim increased support.

  • Nicholas Whyte

    If either of the Unionist parties was serious about wanting to defeat Sinn Fein, they would of course back Deeny as neither has a chance of winning, even if there were an agreed Unionist candidate.

    Of course, for both parties getting more votes across NI is much more important than depriving Sinn Fein of a seat, so there is no chance that they will support Deeny.

    And I can see why; after all, the 18 winners of the Westminster seats will not actually make any difference. (Though I would have thought that was a good reason to swallow one’s pride and back the one candidate who might beat Sinn Fein. But then, I’m not a Unionist.)

  • jamesquigley

    to new yorker

    Why then have sinn fein been the largest growing party on the island (3rd overall) it must be because their nazi/communist (depending on the day of the week) control over the media is slowly brainwashing everyone! Or maybe people have growing aspirations which they feel only sinn fein can deliver. why does someone have to have a TITLE B4 OR AFTER THEIR NAME TO BE CREDIBLE As for intelligence at westminster i would rather vote for someone who doesnt recognise the queen as their head of church because their faith and beliefs do not

  • New Yorker

    James Quigley,

    SF receives probably less than 10% of the 32 county vote. SF receives less than 230,000 votes on an island with near 7million people. They are a very minor party. Now everyone is disgusted with them because of their recent activities. Less than 10% means they are a fringe party. Every country has at least 10% of their electorate who are marginal in every way.

  • Henry94

    Nicholas

    What you say holds true for the DUP but it looks like Trimble, knowing he can’t win the headcount, is pushing deals in every possible constituency.

    The DUP will concentrate on destroying the UUP first. So no deals this year.

    The nationalist parties won’t make any deals either but for voters in South and North Belfast there is an obvious basis for voting SDLP in South and Sinn Fein in North.

  • DXI

    Of course he will be a single issue candidate! Down here in Free Ireland we have had a raft of parish pump “hospital” candidates looking to retain a General Hospital in every hamlet. Played no small part in screwing up the Health Service and preventing much needed reform.

    Rebecca Black from what I can guage most nationalists in NI have no more interest in being represented in Westminister than us Dubs have.

  • lámh dearg

    Glad to see that no-one attempts to defend the record of Bairbre de Brún!

    Obviously the reports of SF embarrassment at her dire performance were true, ah well, she can do less damage in Europe.

    DXI, have you an evidence to back up your assertion about Nationalist indifference to representation at Westminster? I would argue that with Direct Rule continuing and English idiots recking our Education system, for example (and after the creditable performance of Martin McGuinness in the Education Department) effective MPs in Westminster are even more important.

  • Bob Wilson

    I think Henry makes a very valid point about DUP to maximise their vote vis a vis the UUP one.
    That said I will be urging the three members of my family in West Tyrone – who are small u unionists to back Deeney.
    Not that they need much persuading when you look at the other parties

  • DXI

    Pardon me but I cannot duplicate your handle L Dearg. Nope. I have no evidence. Since when is evidence required to draw conclusions on events in NI? This some new thing?

    It is what I “gauge”, by examining a mountain of variables and reaching a conclusion. Kinda like Hugh Orde or the muppets in the SDLP.

  • lámh dearg

    DXI

    Fair enough, but do you not see a difference between the Dub not wanting a rep in Westminster but who has a TD in the Dáil amd a voter in NI with a non-sitting MLA, an absentee English MP visiting a few times/month and taking decisions with no reference to the local people at all and with no need to be accountable to local voters.

    While the decisions are being made at Westminster we are entitled to have elected reps who represent our interests in Westminster.

  • Alan

    I see no evidence that McGuinness acted to prevent the ELB overspends that have resulted in our current crisis in Education. Failing to tackle those overspends meant that unelected ELB’s were deciding Education policy rather than elected politicians – and that includes the times when the Assembly was running things.

    It is also important to challenge the views that either nothing important is decided at Westminster, or that nationalists are not interested in what goes on there.

    Since the Assembly was closed, legislation for Northern Ireland at Westminster has covered Pensions, Firearms, Prisons, Rates, Mental Health, Anti Social Behaviour, Financial Assistance for Young Farmers and Criminal Justice.

    In the same time frame, hundreds of statutory rules have been passed covering everything from social security to the social care council and Gas safety.

    Also, during the same period, the NI Affairs Committee considered Hate Crime, Reconciliation, Waste,Electoral Registration, the Functions of the Policing Board and Social Housing – among many more.

    These are all issues that abstentionist parties like SF choose to neglect by not playing their full part at Westminster. A few weekly e-mails to the NIAC won’t cut it at Westminster and certainly does not represent the needs of their constituents.

  • DXI

    L Dearg – the solution for you would be to vote for non-abstentionist candidates. I imagine you so that anyway… and after the election we can see whether my conclusions have any supporting evidence!

  • lámh dearg

    Alan

    I’m no friend or champion of Martin McGuinness but he did a better job than some other ministers, he got the money and made a dent in the back-log of school building work. These new “cuts” in ELB budgets puzzle me but seem a fairly recent phenomenon, I am unsure if it is fair to blame these on McGuinness.

    Otherwise I agree totally with your points, abstentionism, particularly when the Assembly is suspended is stupid and wrong. But again SF can use their lack of input and refusal to get involved to feed their sense of victimhood and, as aleays blame everyone else. without ever having to prove if they can deliver to their famous mandate

  • Bob Wilson

    “I’m no friend or champion of Martin McGuinness but he did a better job than some other ministers, he got the money and made a dent in the back-log of school building work”
    He ‘got the money’ because the Executive experiment was generously funded and coincided with a UK wide splurge in public expenditure.
    We can all do a good job if people throw money at us.
    The bill will be in the post after the General Election rest assured.
    The ‘cuts’ are an attempt to bring reality back into public spending

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Deeny has been singularly unsuccesful to date on the issue he camapaigned on to get elected to the Assembly.
    Now that he is not just a single issue candidate is there any reason to believe he will be any more productive on these other ‘issues’.

  • lámh dearg

    Bob

    “We can all do a good job if people throw money at us.”

    No we can’t, Bairbre de Brún had millions thrown at her and she squandered it to no effect at all

    Pat

    Anyone who participates in the decision making process is more likely to achieve something than someone who refuses to particpate. Also, as I mentioned earlier the Health Service battle for Tyrone is not over, no-one will “save” TCH but an active MP may well influence and help shape the services delivered to Tyrone and make gains in this field which will be lost by abstentionism

  • Bob Wilson

    “Deeny has been singularly unsuccesful to date on the issue he camapaigned on to get elected to the Assembly.”
    Pat – the Assembly hasn’t actually met since it was elected

  • Keith M

    Nicholas “If either of the Unionist parties was serious about wanting to defeat Sinn Fein…”. This election does thankfully not revolve about the one issue of beating Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein may be the common enemy of all democratic parties but this election is not simply about beating them. If it were then the SDLP should be given a clear run in Foyle, Newry and Armagh, South Down etc. This kind of corruption of the democratic process might sit well with an APNI supporter given the 2001 fiasco in North Down, but most unionists have a wider agenda.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    ‘Anyone who participates in the decision making process is more likely to achieve something than someone who refuses to particpate. Also, as I mentioned earlier the Health Service battle for Tyrone is not over, no-one will “save” TCH but an active MP may well influence and help shape the services delivered to Tyrone and make gains in this field which will be lost by abstentionism’

    The decision making process has already been made and it chose Fermanagh. Now, the English MP presently responsible for the Health portfolio may change the location, but that seems unlikely. The best hope for health services in Tyrone and elsewhere is the Assembly, until that is up and running again progress will only be made lobbying the direct rule minister. One doesn’t have to take an oath at Westminster to achieve that.

    ‘Pat – the Assembly hasn’t actually met since it was elected’

    That has not stopped Deeny (as an elected rep) being able to lobby the direct rule minister responsible for health on the TCH issue. He has in fact failed to date.

  • lámh dearg

    Pat

    “The best hope for health services in Tyrone and elsewhere is the Assembly, until that is up and running again progress will only be made lobbying the direct rule minister. One doesn’t have to take an oath at Westminster to achieve that.”

    but if one wants to exert influence through the Health Committe or the NI Committee (both of which have more clout over NIO ministers) one does need to be there at the meetings, ON the Committees.

    btw, what did you think of Bairbre’s tenure as Health Minister?

  • J Kelly

    DXI, have you an evidence to back up your assertion about Nationalist indifference to representation at Westminster?

    There has been clear evidence of nationalist indifference for one the largest nationalist party in the north abstain and it desn’t harm their vote at Westminster Elections or their ability to represent their constituency. Secondly the SDLP representatives have for years been some of the worst attendees at Westminster and I do not believe that their attendance affected their vote or their ability to represent.

    The core issue at the centre of this thread is whether or not to give Deeney a free run in West Tyrone I believe that this would be a disater for the SDLP. The SDLP lost a MLA to Deeny the last time out and if they surrender their vote to him now they will find it impossible to get it back and secondly it will do their localgovernment candidates harm as they will not have the advantage of a Westminster campaign to run behind. A free run for Deeney and Sinn Fein still have a chance of winning the seat this would finish the SDLP in West Tyrone.

  • Tim Roll-Pickering

    Keith M: No supporter of McCartney has the right to complain about Alliance withdrawing from North Down in 2001 when the DUP always gave Bob a free run. Why is it acceptable for one to withdraw but not the other?

  • DerryTerry

    Only now is the Stalingrad claim beginning to make sense. Whereas we all thought the SDLP were comparing themselves to the Red Army, who heroically held the city in the face of the Nazi advance, they were actually comparing themselves to von Paulas’s Sixth Army, who ended up abandoning the city and surrendering.

    And they accuse Republicans of taking the long view.

  • DerryTerry

    Only now is the Stalingrad claim beginning to make sense. Whereas we all thought the SDLP were comparing themselves to the Red Army, who heroically held the city in the face of the Nazi advance, they were actually comparing themselves to von Paulas’s Sixth Army, who ended up abandoning the city and surrendering.

    And they accuse Republicans of taking the long view.

  • Roger W. Christ XVII

    “maximalise change for nationalists”

    PaddyCanuck has turned into George W Bush.

  • Nicholas Whyte

    DXI and J Kelly,

    I agree with you about Nationalist attitudes to the presence of their representatives in Westminster. In fact, for all the good they can do when (as is the case most years) the government of the day has a clear majority, it’s a perfectly rational position. I suspect that even for most non-Nationalists, Westminster is a far-off parliament of which they know little.

    Keith, ah, Keith,

    This election does thankfully not revolve about the one issue of beating Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein may be the common enemy of all democratic parties but this election is not simply about beating them. If it were then the SDLP should be given a clear run in Foyle, Newry and Armagh, South Down etc.

    Have I just been imagining it then when Unionist politicians keep banging on about the need to defeat Sinn Fein? Wasn’t it your own pals in the DUP who once used “Smash Sinn Fein” as an election slogan? (And how visibly successful was that? Were Sinn Fein duly smashed? I don’t think so.)

    Of course I agree with you that if Unionist politicians were serious rather than hypocrtitical on this issue, they would be giving the SDLP a clear run in those three seats at least. But, as you rightly observe, they are not.

    This kind of corruption of the democratic process might sit well with an APNI supporter given the 2001 fiasco in North Down, but most unionists have a wider agenda.

    The only fiasco in North Down was Robert McCartney’s, in that he was defeated. Since (as Tim points out above) he had only got elected in 1995 and 1997 thanks to his pact with the DUP, he was hoist by his own petard.

    Electoral pacts are a perfectly sensible reaction to the primitive first-past-the-post electoral system. Funny that McCartney and his supporters only approve of them when it suits him. A sore loser and a hypocrite? You betcha.

    And the only agenda you’ve demonstrated Unionists to possess is that of maximising votes for their own parties. Doesn’t seem very wide to me…

  • samneilson

    ‘DerryTerry’
    My oh my does the Derry Provisional movement have a long memory when it comes to the SDLP statements for 2001!! would you like anyone to repeat any of the statements made by PSF in the city to the wider world – the one that still cracks me up is as an interested observer/politics student listening to PSF ‘politicians’ claiming that they were in a position to ‘run’ Derry – still sends shivers up my spine. As you are a history expert perhaps you could repeat the NSDAPs mantra with regards to taking political power???!!!

    BTW you’d need to read up on your World War II military history are you entirely sure about the Stalingrad comparison- I’d still like to compare the PSF movement to the entire Fascist movement from the formation of the NSDAP in the early twenties to 1945, if you don’t mind!!

  • lámh dearg

    And still no defence of Pat Doherty or de Brún and their efforts to protect the health service in Tyrone

  • IJP

    Nicholas

    I’ll ignore the North Down issue, since we’re getting on so well, and agree entirely with you that Unionists are being hypocritical.

    Since when was seeking a political objective ‘by any means’ democratic? Since when was majority rule (whose leaders are proclaimed on the UU website) democratic?

    Democracy is about fair representation of all the people for the good of all the people. Both Irish Nationalism and Ulster Unionism are ethnic nationalisms, in essence utterly sectarian, and therefore in essence utterly anti-democratic. So let’s have less of this galling hypocrisy.

    And good luck to Dr Deeny.

  • DerryTerry

    samneilson,

    4 years isn’t that long.

  • Keith M

    Nicholas, firstly I would never agree with the idea of leading an an election campaign with “smash Sinn Fein” as that simply generates more publicity SF/IRA. The current DUP stategy of finding a new agreement which has support in both communities and makes all parties accountable, has been far more successful, both for the DUP in electoral terms and for removing SF/IRA’s threat to the democratic process.

    Unionism is not simply about smashing SF. There is no benefit to unionism to have an SDLP or someone like Deeny as an MP instead of an abstentionist SF/IRA one. Indeed it could be argued that based on the 1996/7 experience when a minority government relied on unionist votes, that having abstentionist MPs would benefit unionism as it makes the pool of critical swing voting MPs smaller. That scenario is however not likely to be repeated, but unionists should still consider the dubious benefit to them of having an SF/IRA fellow traveller like Hume in Westminster as against someone who won’t take their seat. That’s why unionists should not vote for people like Durkan.

    As for North Down, are you seriously trying to draw an equivalency between the relationship between the UKUP and the DUP (two unionist parties who had run a joint anti Belfest Agreement campaign in 1998, and who had established a transfer pact in previous elections) and APNI and the UUP?

    The fiasco I refer to is the fact that having taken the cowardly approach in 2001, the APNI were “rewarded” by the North Down electorate by getting their worst ever result, falling below 10% for the first time. I believe that APNI have learnt their lessons and will now stand in N.D. in May.

    “Electoral pacts are a perfectly sensible reaction to the primitive first-past-the-post electoral system.” Funny then that we’ve not seen one on the mainland (bar the Lib / SDP one which was basically a pre-numptual arrangement).

  • Nicholas Whyte

    Keith,

    Funny that in North Down, in the 2001 elections where Stephen Farry withdrew in order to defeat McCartney, in the simultaneous local elections his was the only part of North Down where Alliance actually increased its vote! (And the party’s vote was down rather more drastically in East Belfast, where they had actually contested both 2001 elections.)

    But I’ll agree that I was unfair to accuse you of being against electoral pacts only when they cause candidates you like to be defeated. It would have been much fairer to say that you’re only in favour of them when they cause candidates you like to be elected!

  • Keith M

    Nicholas, my position on electoral pacts has nothing to do with my personal preferences. I am in favour of pacts when you have two or more parties with the sufficiently similar policies coming together rather than splitting the vote and letting an opponent win. That did not apply in North Down in 2001 and it most certainly does not apply in West Tyrone today.

    I am against pacts where the electorate is denied the opportunity to vote for a party with a distinct set of policies for the reason of political expediency, and that would be the case if the unionists decided not to contest West Tyrone.

  • yerman

    How wonderful of Kieran Deeney to tell us he’ll not be a single issue candidate this time – aside from the fact that this is a complete U-turn.

    Maybe he could also explain to his Assembly Constituents why he is still practicing as a doctor…. While he may be a ‘Health’ Assembly Member, surely that is taking it a little too far.

  • Tim Roll-Pickering

    Keith M: “I am in favour of pacts when you have two or more parties with the sufficiently similar policies coming together rather than splitting the vote and letting an opponent win. That did not apply in North Down in 2001 and it most certainly does not apply in West Tyrone today.”

    And Bob McCartney has been consistly close to the DUP has he? So they are both integrations and devolutionists, both avowedly pro Protestant and anti-sectarian, both conservative and labour inclined and so forth…?

    Or is that to one side given their mutual scepticism to the Good Friday Agreement (again there is a great disparity between their records) and that becomes a key issue? How is this different from a pair of pro Agreement parties?

  • kevin

    Well hello from Omagh and i must say that it is good to see such debate about our good Dr For only the second time in my 45 years i will be actually bothering to take the time to vote and my vote will be going to Dr Deeny as he gives me some reason to vote . That reason is the ending hopefully of tribal party politics Concerning his manifesto we are busilly putting it together at this time As regards single issue candidates we have had these for years . On one hand the uniters of Ireland who have never asked us the public do we want ireland united and the stronger links with the U.K groups who agian have never held a referendum to decide what we want.These groups do not realise that the hayclone days of supremacy are gone and there are as many of their supporters on the dole as the catholic population and that the british government do not really care one hoot about us
    What we want to do is too throw all polititions into the river Lagan and take over the country with people power However we cannot even consider such a move as we would be taken to court by the E.U. for gross pollution.Finally i might say slightly tounge in cheek that there are a few things working against Dr Deeny as a politition in that he is a gentleman a man of integrity and a friend to all not traits that are needed in the dishonest melle of deceit lies and pervarication that is politics in Northern Ireland
    You can see from this post that i am a Deeny supporter and indeed by a much valued part of his team from his election to the Assemblly
    I am proud to haev known the good Dr for many years now and if anyone can make a change it is Dr Kerian Deeny M.L.A. and hopefullt Westminster M.P for West Tyrone

  • Henry94

    kevin

    It’s good to see people getting involved in the political process. But running as an non-politican is the oldest trick in the book. They say politics and stand-up comedy are the two things that non-professionals think they could easily do.

    I’ll be watching Dr Deeny’s concession speech for signs of the latter. I’d suggest this for an opener.”It’s a sad reflection on Northern Irish politics when a fake Doctor can get elected and a real Doctor can’t”

  • Davros

    They say politics and stand-up comedy are the two things that non-professionals think they could easily do.

    look at the mess our “professional” politicians have us in and tell me with a straight face that the man in the street would do a worse job 😉

  • kevin

    I write this to find out why anyone would class the good Dr as a non-politition what warped logic has lead you or anyone else to suggest that the good Dr is not a politition . By excepting a mandate he becomes a politition however he is a Dr first and foremost .
    Let me point out that the reason the good Dr had to become a politition was the complete deraliction of the Tyrone health service by those elected party polititions . Though they are now all posing and posturing. The four main political parties all supported the review that suggested removing acute in-patient care from not just the Omagh unit but four others . Let me also point out that the people across the border do not want an all Ireland health service i have met them and they have told me so . By the way i do not blame the fromer health minister Barbera Brown Sinn Fein for removing services from Tyrone the only thing i blame her for is being so incompatent as a minister as to allow the Department of health to lead her into taking a decision that was on the cards for over twenty years As far as professionalism is concerned it is questionable that the way in which the main unionist parties are behaving is in a professional way if this is the type of professionalism we can expect from our elected members of parliment give me rank amatuers any day . Moving on to comedians i think i do not have too say anything
    Bye bye from Omagh