WE EXIST wristbands

On the subject of top-quality fans, you have to give credit to the great supporters on the Our Wee Country site. In the face of indifference in some quarters to the fate of the NI team, some enterprising people have commissioned some green and white ‘WE EXIST’ wristbands, which you can purchase to showcase your support of Lawrie’s boys. The artist’s impression looks pretty cool, better than the Nike ones.

Before we get any complaints – I haven’t ordered one myself, so can’t vouch for the seller’s authenticity. Your mileage may vary.

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392 thoughts on “WE EXIST wristbands”

  1. “Just as some nationalists will reject any Northern Ireland team out of hand, most Northern Ireland supporters are just as opposed (if not more so) to being swallowed up by an all-island side.”

    Regarding the wearing of football tops, i travel widely throughout the country due to my job,and i can honestly say that i have never seen anyone within a Nationalist area wearing a Northern Ireland football jersey.

  2. I have seen my share of young lads with NI tops over the years at both Beechmount and Andytown leisure centres…nationalist “strongholds”.

  3. OCH AYE ***** I’m not the one making non-sensical comments on this thread. Never mind who I am.

    Look at what you say…

    1. wouldnt buy a house near the shankill for fear being pipebombed or burnt out…However many visible minorities live in Anderstown.

    2.I dont care what anybody is I just want unity and cross community friendship.

    3.I have been trying to promote a unified team for both communities to support and play for

    4.Maybe seeing the Palestinian flag is offensive to you because of how you have treated the Palestenians.

    5.Your just a stubborn old man who likes the old ways…

    6.hahhahahahhaha They would warm the pine on ROI….

    7. Beano appreciate the post

    8. Mucker-Are you helping paint the curbs red, wihte and blue?

    9. I dont feel as though I have to apologize.

    10. your the one spewing out excrement and hatred……

    **** ALL OF THIS IS FROM “OCH AYE” ON THIS THREAD. I’M NOT SURE THAT EVEN YOU (Och Aye) KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT!!

    Never you mind me, Och Aye. Sort out your confused wee self before posting again.

  4. OCH AYE ***** I’m not the one making non-sensical comments on this thread. Never mind who I am.

    Look at what you say…

    1. wouldnt buy a house near the shankill for fear being pipebombed or burnt out…However many visible minorities live in Anderstown.

    2.I dont care what anybody is I just want unity and cross community friendship.

    3.I have been trying to promote a unified team for both communities to support and play for

    4.Maybe seeing the Palestinian flag is offensive to you because of how you have treated the Palestenians.

    5.Your just a stubborn old man who likes the old ways…

    6.hahhahahahhaha They would warm the pine on ROI….

    7. Beano appreciate the post

    8. Mucker-Are you helping paint the curbs red, wihte and blue?

    9. I dont feel as though I have to apologize.

    10. your the one spewing out excrement and hatred……

    **** ALL OF THIS IS FROM “OCH AYE” ON THIS THREAD. I’M NOT SURE THAT EVEN YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT!!

    Never you mind me, Och Aye. Sort out your confused wee self before posting again.

  5. Mucker/Loafer

    If, however improbable, NI and RoI merged football teams, would you too feel like you had no team left to support?

  6. Clady – Its a good question. If there was a united team that represented Belfast, I would probably be a supporter. When it comes to the international football (FIFA) world, NI is a seperate country – I agree with some posters, it should be distinct from England, the Union Jack, and anthems. On the international scene, it is England that represents the UK in the eyes of other nations.

  7. ah, so you are a proud Belfastman. When you say you could support a UI team that represents Belfast, do you mean one that plays some/all of its home games in Belfast or a team that contains at least some Belfast/6 county players?

    If UI team was formed tommorow and contained the RoI starting 11, picked purely on footballing ability, and played its games in Dublin, would this scenario leave you lacklustre in your support?

    I agree if NI wants to broaden its support base then anthemns and flags will have to be addressed. This is of course only if it wants to

  8. “I have seen my share of young lads with NI tops over the years at both Beechmount and Andytown leisure centres…nationalist “strongholds”.”

    I worked in A/town L/C for 8 years and never saw anyone wearing an n.i top.

    Most Nationalists consider the ni top to be akin to a Rangers or Linfield jersey

  9. Don: First of all, you said you “worked” at A-Town L/C. Nobody “works” at leisure centres in Northern Ireland…you just piss around acting tough while the British Government pays you to look the part in your polo shirt and track pants.

    Second, I “snuck” into your A-Town L/C with catholic friends from finaghy and played 5-a-side every week for 2 years with my white NI shirt circa 1986-88. During those years I noticed 3 others with the classic white jersey (away kit) with the three green stripes down the sleeves. Could have been other protestants!
    FYI, nobody said boo to me.

  10. philly boy

    What do you mean Doctor who a dreadful show…are you och aye in disguise.
    If not, given that, that was your only post, I suggest you return to looking up free porn threads on your pc.

  11. Sandy
    you seem to b e preoccupied with attendances at Windsor Park over the years against un attractive opposition.
    The fact is that all recent and some future games have sold out…Like they used too when Windsor had a 25000 capacity.
    Look at what happened to the Welsh attendances once they had been given a new stadium.

  12. Wales did have a few players who could play football, Ryan Giggs for example, i don’t see anyone on the northern ireland team who could remotely be called a class act

  13. “The fact is that all recent and some future games have sold out”

    Another Ostrich who lives in dream land.

    Neither of the 2 world cup qualifying games at windsor park during this campaign have been sold out.The capacity is 14000 and the 2 match attendances were 11800 & 12400.

    It think there is a good reason why the remaining 2 fixtures are sold out, its called England.

    How many of northern ireland’s loyal supporters will sell their tickets to England fans for a few extra quid.

    It should be interesting to see.

  14. Clady – I see where you are going. I am a bit Belfast-centric. Talent and not city of birth would be a priority, but the matches would have to be played in Belfast:)
    Anyway, sure its all Och Aye’s fantasy…but I appreciate your point.

  15. Doctor Who: There is no question that Och Aye is Philly Boy. He is probably also leisure centre worker “DOM”. Och Aye knows alot about Andy-Town…remember, Och Aye told us “many visible minorities live in Anderstown”. Of course he left out the “sons” on the spelling.

    Markie: Brilliant post. Good on ye for
    [1] pointing out what all of us have known for years about L/C workers in NI.
    [2]. wearing that beautiful rig with pride.

  16. My well-meaning aunt bought me that white adidas NI shirt with the 3 stripes when I was 13. I am no NI fan, but I did wear it to Beechmount LC 5 a side in the late 80s. No one said anything about it. I wish I had it now so I could flog it on e-bay.

  17. Dom****

    What a laugh! You trying to use work and leisure centre in the same sentence. Wise up wee man. Handing out furry footballs and shuttlecocks is not WORK me son.

  18. Anyone ever notice how all Free State men seem to start huging and kissing/feeling/groping each other up after a few drinks in a pub-,yed never see the like of it back home

    —maybe this united Ireland thing isnt such a good idea !!—could we really handle-excuse the pun–so many people with issues,.

  19. Bird

    Frankly your ostrich nonsense is becoming somewhat of a boring cliche. I know of people who couldn´t get tickets for the Poland game and just managed to get tickets for the Austria game.
    You may also like to know that the away games in Cardiff and Manchester where sold out very quickly and yes of course the opposition had something to do with it..just as every game ROI play sells depending on quality of opposition and status of the match. But of course you wouldn´t know this as you have never been at Landsdowne road or at Dalymont Park in the bad old days for that matter.
    Bird what are you a Duck quacking continuously and without purpose.

  20. Re: NI Shirts in Leisure Centres in West Belfast.

    I have been playing 5/side on and off in Andytown for 20 years. I used to see the green and the white NI tops a FEW TIMES back in the 80s. Last time I saw one was probably 10-15 years ago.

  21. In defense of Leisure Centre Dom.

    Handing out the furry footballs may be easy, its the getting them back that is the hard part. Saying ‘your time is up’ or, ‘give us the ball back’, can be cause for a fight. LCs are the hangout of choice for young toughs who are too young to get into bars. LC employees put up with constant agro and guff. I know because Crispers friend’s uncle in France told me so.

    Martin said – “Free State men seem to start huging and kissing/feeling/groping each other up after a few drinks in a pub”.
    I think the “pub” you are referring to was a gay bar that someone purposely recommended to you.

  22. In defense of Leisure Centre Dom.

    Handing out the furry footballs may be easy, its the getting them back that is the hard part. Saying ‘your time is up’ or, ‘give us the ball back’, can be cause for a fight. LCs are the hangout of choice for young toughs who are too young to get into bars. LC employees put up with constant agro and guff.

  23. Cladycowboy – I would supportive of Och Aye’s united team as long as it played in Belfast… and we get to keep the NI logo which is far nicer lol.

  24. Mucker,

    Nah its fairly widespread–Ive been a student down there for the past 3 years and as you can probably guess Ive been to quite a few pubs there, as has my wife ,she is southern and also agrees ,our friends from abroad have also remarked upon it.
    Have a good look for yourself the next time your out there——especially after popular sporting events.

    Our foreign friends have also remarked upon it.

  25. last line above was part of another post that first dissapeared and then came back in one sentence form at the end of the first post !!

  26. For first time posters here…think twice. This thread is not for the faint of heart.

    Look at the example of Dom, the former A-Town Leisure Centre employee. The man made a post concerning his work and observations of NI shirts. Within 24 hours he was discredited and made to look like a complete buffoon. Self-esteem in tatters, it will probably be the last we hear from Dom. Like many before him on this thread, he gave it his best. I salute you Dom.

    Before making your first post, look at Dom, look at Och Aye and think twice.

  27. Ricardo

    I see you had to go on owc to ask your fellow ostriches about the attendance figures for the norths first 2 world cup qualifying matches at windsor.

    I think you used the term ‘spoofer’, in reference to my post in which i told you that you could not even sell the 14000 tickets for the Poland & Austria games.

    In case you still have your head stuck in the sand i will post the link, again,

    http://stanjames.stats.football365.com/intnl/teams/NIR.html

    Crap team,Crap support.

  28. Hallion 24-7,

    in the words of the Kurgan in Highlander 1,

    ITS BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN TO FADE AWAY.

  29. Martin – If you, your wife and the foreigners have all made the same observation, who am I to argue. I think there should be a university-based study of this phenomenon.
    I defer futher comment on this issue to Och Aye who is the one who called for a united ireland team. Och Aye appears to be AWOL from the thread.

  30. a day after the london bombing we see a ROI top wearing animal attack the police and wave a free sean kelly poster on the springfield road, one of ulsters worst serial killers.
    Is it any wonder the decent people of the ROI dont want these Northern ROI shirt wearing thugs assciated with them

    feel the love b13x

  31. a day after the london bombing we see a ROI top wearing animal attack the police and wave a free sean kelly poster on the springfield road, one of ulsters worst serial killers.
    Is it any wonder the decent people of the ROI dont want these Northern ROI shirt wearing thugs associated with them

    feel the love b13x

  32. 2 days after the london bombings we see northern ireland top wearing animals petrol bombing the home of a Catholic family in North Belfast.

    is it any wonder decent people won’t venture anywhere near windsor park.

  33. yes rupert, then you woke up and mummy told you everything was alright.yawn yawn

    the ROI wearing thug was there for the world to see on TV. If this animal was really representative of all ROI fans then logic would suggest that ROI fans are serial killing mass murderers.
    or maybe they all attack innocent eastern european workers in tyrone
    maybe they attack protestant pensioners houses in white city

    etc etc etc

    now we all know this is not true of every ROI fan, dont we?

    we all know that the northern sectarian bigots in their ROI tops are not welcome at landsdowne

    you rupert are just making yourself look very stupid, narrow minded and even more bitter and twisted than you already are.

    you must practice making yourself look stupid

    feel the love

    b13xx

  34. yes rupert, then you woke up and mummy told you everything was alright.yawn yawn

    the ROI wearing thug was there for the world to see on TV. If this animal was really representative of all ROI fans then logic would suggest that ROI fans are serial killing mass murderers.
    or maybe they all attack innocent eastern european workers in tyrone
    maybe they attack protestant pensioners houses in white city

    etc etc etc

    now we all know this is not true of every ROI fan, dont we?

    we all know that the northern sectarian bigots in their ROI tops are not welcome at landsdowne

    you rupert are just making yourself look very stupid, narrow minded and even more bitter and twisted than you already are.

    you must practice making yourself look stupid

    feel the love

    b13xx

  35. I really missed the crack on this thread while slugger was down.
    What is the latest from Mucker and Loafer – were yees out on the 11th night with your mates? How was the bonnie? Did they make you two collect wood and build the effigy with an ROI shirt?

    Hope it was great for you lads.

  36. ‘Then we have Ricardo who contributes as much to this thread as he did to Manchester United’s goalkeeping problems.’

    Very good. I would however be more use between the sticks than my namesake 😉

  37. To All:

    The bonnie was the best ever!! We even had an orange Lil impersonator this year. Tis the season for marching!!!

  38. haha clusterf…oh the irony

    the most annoying part of this thread ..clusterf ..aka everbodystalkin..aka about 20 other usernames on the forum…yawn yawn

    so were you dancing on the streets when you heard news of the london bombs

    you little sectarian bigot

  39. Northern Ireland Football died when they changed the points scheme for wins and draws. NI made it to the world cup via a couple of wins and many draws. NI cannot string together 2 wins, and will never see world cup qualification again. NEVER, EVER MORE…lol lol lol

  40. “and will never see world cup qualification again. NEVER, EVER MORE…lol lol lol”

    I think its more to do with the fact that the team has basically no players who are off a high enough standard to compete on the international stage,players who play in the lower divisions are never going to be good enough to compete.

  41. Mucker,

    I agree with you in that the NI logo does look good. I’d back you on that. However, in a generation, it may be looked at again as too Christian for Irish citizens of differing or no faith.
    All matches in Belfast? Dublin does hold the bigger stadium. I would suggest sharing home games between the two. What about the present English system of touring the country? The team could play its WC qualifiers in say Dublin, Belfast, Cork, Derry, Clady….

  42. The Truth

    Does the name Steven McKeag mean anything to you ? Now THERE was a mass murderer sir.

  43. Bored

    Northern Ireland are quite entitled to play their games, sing their anthem, fly their flag etc. etc. etc. All that I and most Republicans want noted at some official level of the Northern state and its broadcaster, is that we and a large number like us have absolutely no affiliation to the team and never will.

    What do you mean by this? What do you mean by “noted”? I’m sure it is well noted, given the emphasis placed by broadcasters on the fortunes of the Southern Irish team.

    Do you think that broadcasters should “note” that most people in NI have absolutely no affiliation to Gaelic games and never will?

    Cladycowboy

    when it comes to NI v ROI then i’m with the cultural brethren in the south i’m afraid.

    By “cultural brethren”, you mean fellow Roman Catholics/nationalists. Sectarian, then.

    George

    Standing to God Save the Queen as your anthem and saluting the St. George Cross flag is anti-partitionist. I’ve heard it all now 🙂

    Please explain your comment about “saluting the St. George Cross flag”.

    Everybody’s talk’n

    Gareth I sympathise with your comments but we both know that it’s not true….that you can’t go to a Northern Ireland match and not hear chants like up to your knees in fenian blood.

    Liar.

  44. Willowfield are u saying that Roman Catholics who are nationalists are Sectarian?

    No.

    Let me try and understand something are songs like “the fields of Athenry, Grace, Men behind the wire, ect… are they Sectarian to you?

    I guess so.

  45. Gallavanter

    Really thats [sic] hard for me to understand.

    Why?

    I wouldnt be offended by the sash.

    Why would you be?

    However, I dont [sic] understand the logic in building bonefires and putting the pope on top of it.

    I assume you mean an effigy of the Pope? I understand the logic: it’s because the Pope symbolises Roman Catholicism and those burning it are showing their contempt for Roman Catholicism.

    I think this is a clear example of Sectarianism

    Me too. Thankfully it doesn’t seem to happen anymore.

    I think it is sad that people still parade about an insignificant battle in British history that happened four hundered years ago.

    First, it wasn’t insignificant: quite the opposite. Second, I disagree that celebrating historic events is sad. It would seem that most people across the world would also disagree, as the celebration of historic events is a near-universal part of human culture.

    If you walk into any University English history class in the world it is very doubtful a Professor would even mention the Battle of the Boyne or spend any time on it. Time to move on people.

    The chances of picking a particular event and walking into an “English history” class (are there such things?) and hearing a professor discussing it, must be close to zero.

  46. Willowfield you seem to be quite intellegent an open minded. You said you geuss so about the songs that I named. Whats offensive about them?

    Well, to be honest, I don’t know the songs, and have no desire to know them (although the Athenry tune’s not bad), but I am assuming these are “rebel songs”, a category of songs that celebrates the violence of Irish nationalism, and hatred of Britain and unionism, and hence they are offensive to me, and hence I would categorise them as sectarian.

    Secondly I have no problem with parades in regards to Remembrance Day and other events but you are wrong when you think the Battle of the Boyne was significant. It is a mere footnote if that in British history.

    The Glorious Revolution and the Williamite wars that followed are among most significant events of European history.

    I have spoken with many British History Professors and they dont really know about it.

    Then they should be stripped of their professorships (if there is such a word).

    English people in general would not know what the Battle of the Boyne was. My dad grew up in England did not know what it was until he came to Belfast.

    The alleged ignorance of English people is irrelevant.

  47. Och Aye: You are just rambling on about nonsense. I don’t think you have made even one solid point on this thread. Your debating skills are pathetic, and you have no consistent message. If anyone needs to find another thread, it is you. Cladycowboy, realist and others are reflective of what this forum is all about, reasonable debate that stimulates the mind…you are 180 degrees away from proper debate.
    Wise up and leave. You have done nothing for the thread. Its not even entertaining material, at least some of the jokers have made us laugh.
    I AM TAKING A POLL IF YOU THINK OCH AYE SHOULD TAKE HIS LIES SOMEWHERE ELSE, PLEASE SIGN BELOW MY POST. iT IS AN ON-THREAD PETITION TO LET OCH AYE KNOW HE SHOULD MOVE ON WITH HIS LIFE…

  48. I agree, the ostriches are more fun when they are denying everything.

    Attendance figures, sectarian chanting,Pat Jennings, Neil Lennon, Anton Rogan.

    If you want to talk about bonfires and the like, go onto the our wee country site, plenty of northern ireland supporters talking about the great time they had on the 11th night.

    Purely non sectarian,off course !!

  49. ‘off course’ ?

    How about, like, some ‘YOU SUCK’ wristbands, wouldn’t that be more, like, ‘appropriate’ in the, like, nahn-sucksessfuhl ‘sahckurr’ sintz of the , like cahnsipt ?

  50. everbodystalkin:

    i feel the love for the peace loving democrats.

    not bitter and twisted little sectarian thugs like you.

    feel the love
    b13x

  51. everbodystalkin:

    i feel the love for the peace loving democrats.

    not bitter and twisted little sectarian thugs like you.

    is that so hard to understand

    thewn again maybe for you it is

    feel the love
    b13x

  52. everbodystalkin:

    i feel the love for the peace loving democrats.

    not bitter and twisted little sectarian thugs like you.

    is that so hard to understand

    then again maybe for you it is

    feel the love
    b13x

  53. I see those tolerant northern ireland supporters have daubed paint over the face of Derek Dougan on the mural celebrating the great heroes of the team who hail from east Belfast.

    I hear George Best is the next target for the open minded supporters.

  54. I think Och Aye has a good point about how the draw will effect a team like NI who has lived, and is now dying by the draw (or lack of a win). The old point system favoured a tie, now, winners rack up the points.

    In the world cup campaigns of 1982 and 1986, Northern Ireland played a total of 24 games in qualifiers and final rounds. NINE of the 24 were draws, and only 8 were wins. The days of NI sneaking in the back door to the world cup finals is now past us. Since the points system was changed, NI hasn’t even sniffed a competition final.

    Och Aye is right, its time for A UNITED IRELAND TEAM, one that represents all of the people of the entire island. OCH AYE, I will sign your petition for the ALL IRELAND TEAM. Lets get it started.

    Cladycowboy; we can alternate Dublin and Belfast for the venue. The NI logo may have a religious history, but it is also artistical expression. Given that 90+ percent of dwellers on this island are christians, I don’t think it will be an issue. You can’t make everybody happy…For example, I loath mobile phones; research shows that they (and their masts) harm human beings, increase the risk of accidents while driving by 4-fold, annoy others, cut down on workplace productivity and negatively effect mood/behaviour – but 90+% of people in NI/ROI are addicted to their OWN mobile phones. Of course my opinion (and science) matters not, mobiles are here to stay. I digress only to make the point that you simply can’t make everyone happy at the same time.

    Och Aye – the web domain http://www.ochaye.com is for sale ($990 US). Is that you trying to sell it? Why don’t you set it up for the call for the ALL IRELAND FOOTBALL team. Och Aye…well done on standing strong and remaining here on this thread. Your tenacity, intelligence and your willingness to open the dialogue on an all ireland team is to be respected.

    OCH AYE – don’t go anywhere…Please lay out your plans for how you see a united Ireland team…venues, logos, anthems, flags, players etc.

  55. “The days of NI sneaking in the back door to the world cup finals is now past us. Since the points system was changed, NI hasn’t even sniffed a competition final.”

    Ten points for a win and northern ireland still wouldn’t qualify.

    They would still be holding up the base of the group on 3 points.

    You cannot qualify for the final stages of major competitions unless you have a core of quality running through a team.

    northern ireland have no quality players in the squad, most of the team is made up of second rate players plying their trade in the lower divisions

  56. see the Republic of Ireand shirt wearing bigots have yet again attacked innocent protestant pensioners in their homes at Suffolk.
    Bet their parents are as proud of them as they were when they watched them dance on the streets when the london bombs went off.

    sickos

  57. Did you see the northern ireland shirt wearing bigots saluting their uvf heroes at the 11th night bonfire on the newtownards road, the same shirt wearing bigots were pictured on utv draped in paramilitary flags earlier in the evening .

    Such well cultured bigots.

  58. Did you see the ROI, Celtic & Antrim GAA shirt wearing bigots in awe of their PIRA & CIRA heros at the 12th night attempted murder festival of “peaceful protest” at Ardoyne Shops?

    The same shirt wearing bigots responsible for throwing pertrol bombs, rocks, golf balls and lethal blast bombs at innocent civilians and PSNI Officers during the course of the evening.

    The were merely cherishing all the children of the nation equally.

  59. Rice King

    I sincerely hope you are taking the mic out of och aye and encouraging him to show himself up as the bigot he is.
    On these threads he has expreesed his hatred of all things British, he has defended Northern ROI fans for their disgraceful comments about the Holocaust, he has blamed the world´s Jewish population for the trouble in the Middle East need I go on.
    To describe him as intelligent means that you are either his mum or och aye himself or indeed someone of a twisted disposition as bigotted and depraved as och aye himself.
    So go on start your campaign and while your at it call for the Faroe Islands, San Marino, Lichtenstein and Andorra to form one team on the grounds that they don´t win too many games.

  60. Seriously, you lot have got out of hand. This thread is seriously embarrassing. You can tell school’s out.

  61. Doctor Who – Rice King:

    I also hope that rice king was mucking about with och aye.
    I have enjoyed reading many of the posts on this thread – some intelligent, thought provoking comments, some very, very funny posts and then some that serve no purpose at all. Och aye is an example of a hateful wee git. There is nothing at all valuable to och aye’s contributions.

    Tenacious? Yes, I will give him that. Open dialogue? What a farce, och aye has done nothing of the sort, he has only spread lies and made up imaginary stories in his wee head. Intelligent? Och aye is devoid of neurons, a rare condition doctors call brainless. It would be insulting to the entire neanderthal population to compare och aye with them.
    In summary, och aye has done nothing at all to raise the bar on this thread. While I do appreciate the fact that we can have open dialogue, express opinions and joke about a bit (something we couldn’t do in NI before) on a thread like this…och aye is not in that mix. He is an outsider using a few different aliases (philly boy, rice king, et al) to lie and defend hate.

    I am officially signing the on-thread petition – och aye, please get on yer bike.

  62. As you can see below, even the TV introduction theme songs did better than the NI world cup song. Nobody cares about NI football. Merge the teams and you lot in NI move on.

    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    England World Cup Squad – “This Time (We’ll Get it Right)” / “England We’ll Fly the Flag” (no. 2 in May)

    Scotland World Cup Squad – “We Have A Dream” (no. 5 in May)

    Northern Ireland World Cup Squad and Dana – “Yer Man” (didn’t chart)

    Jeff Wayne – “Matador” (ITV World Cup Theme, no. 57, July)

    Royal Philharmonic Orchestra – “BBC World Cup Grandstand” (no. 61 in July)

    To better the quality of international football arena, merge the teams.
    MERGE MERGE MERGE MERGE MERGE

    Doctor who: those teams you talk of should be banned from international FIFA competition and would be better suited to playing school-yard international matches.

    Scotland is a small “country” but has beat the pants of many teams on the international stage. Always fully and loudly supported.

    NI is the laughing stock of international football. Come over on the ferry and see some real world class football, leave your fantasy behind.

    Scottie.

  63. Scottish Reality Checker

    Scotland are in the same toilet bowl of football smelliness as NI are. England are better than you both, the Reps are better than you both, get over it kid.

    Hampden roar my behoukie

  64. My sides are splitting. A jock spouting about Scotland’s International football domination! Where will all this craziness end? BTW, the most enjoyable game in a while I have been at was NI under 21 duffing Scotland under 21 at The Oval a few months ago, but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good rant Scottish Reality Checker. BTW even though poor teams like San Marino, Lichtenstein and Scotland (& even NI) are unlikely to qualify for major tournaments, who has the right to say that they cannot try. They all have a FIFA/UEFA vote and deservedly so. It’s like trying to argue poor African nations shouldn’t have a say in the UN.
    I hope you continue to enjoy your “World Class Football” in Scotland, played largely by SPL players who have a slight edge over Irish League players.

  65. willowfield

    ‘By “cultural brethren”, you mean fellow Roman Catholics/nationalists. Sectarian, then.’

    My,oh my. I could reply in the indignant preacher tone with, ” HOW DARE YOU suggest what i meant with cultural brethren! How dare you put words in my mouth. How dare you put malign meaning in that phrase when none was intended”.

    or in the smarmier..

    ” what you take from that phrase says more about yourself than it does me. Does your brain work like that?”.

    However, i’ll just elaborate on what ‘cultural brethren’. entails for your sole benefit. Those who share an appreciation for Irish music, language, literature and Gaelic games. Those who are proud to be Irish, share my view of its history, and who have seen fit to let an Irish state take its place amongst the nations of the world and not to be content with a provincial status, within a Nation that at times has shown the highest contempt for the inhabitants of this island. Many of the people i would consider my ‘cultural brethren’ were and are fine Irish Protestants of many denominations. Religion is of little consequence to me. Culture does not equate to Religion. I’d ask you apologise for slandering myself as sectarian.

  66. willowfield

    ‘By “cultural brethren”, you mean fellow Roman Catholics/nationalists. Sectarian, then.’

    My,oh my. I could reply in the indignant preacher tone with, ” HOW DARE YOU suggest what i meant with cultural brethren! How dare you put words in my mouth. How dare you put malign meaning in that phrase when none was intended”.

    or in the smarmier..

    ” what you take from that phrase says more about yourself than it does me. Does your brain work like that?”.

    However, i’ll just elaborate on what ‘cultural brethren’. entails for your sole benefit. Those who share an appreciation for Irish music, language, literature and Gaelic games. Those who are proud to be Irish, share my view of its history, and who have seen fit to let an Irish state take its place amongst the nations of the world and not to be content with a provincial status, within a Nation that at times has shown the highest contempt for the inhabitants of this island. Many of the people i would consider my ‘cultural brethren’ were and are fine Irish Protestants of many denominations. Religion is of little consequence to me. Culture does not equate to Religion. I’d ask you apologise for slandering myself as sectarian.

  67. BTW, Walter Smith hadn’t the balls to send his poor Scotland side to Belfast for a game a few months ago. An inevitable defeat to NI would have been more than the Tartan Army could stomach.

  68. willowfield

    ‘By “cultural brethren”, you mean fellow Roman Catholics/nationalists. Sectarian, then.’

    My,oh my. I could reply in the indignant preacher tone with, ” HOW DARE YOU suggest what i meant with cultural brethren! How dare you put words in my mouth. How dare you put malign meaning in that phrase when none was intended”.

    or in the smarmier..

    ” what you take from that phrase says more about yourself than it does me. Does your brain work like that?”.

    However, i’ll just elaborate on what ‘cultural brethren’. entails for your sole benefit. Those who share an appreciation for Irish music, language, literature and Gaelic games. Those who are proud to be Irish, share my view of its history, and who have seen fit to let an Irish state take its place amongst the nations of the world and not to be content with a provincial status, within a Nation that at times has shown the highest contempt for the inhabitants of this island. Many of the people i would consider my ‘cultural brethren’ were and are fine Irish Protestants of many denominations. Religion is of little consequence to me. Culture does not equate to Religion. I’d ask you apologise for slandering myself as sectarian.

  69. Scottish ¨reality¨ Checker.

    Have you ever heard the cliche about people in glass houses.
    Maybe your not aware of this but there was a little competition called the Home International Championships that finished in 1982. The reason it folded was that the Scottish and the English felt that there was major gulf in class between them and N.I and Wales. The irony being of course Northern Ireland where the last team to win it.
    This means that for the last 23 years N.I. are officially the British Champions.
    lol if you want, but I would rather watch och aye making a fool of himself with his merger campaign than watch Scotland play.

  70. cladycowboy

    However, i’ll just elaborate on what ‘cultural brethren’. entails for your sole benefit. Those who share an appreciation for Irish music, language, literature and Gaelic games.

    Er, that is Roman Catholics/nationalists! Only RC/nationalists (with perhaps a tiny minority of exceptions) appreciate Gaelic games.

    Those who are proud to be Irish, share my view of its history, and who have seen fit to let an Irish state take its place amongst the nations of the world and not to be content with a provincial status, within a Nation that at times has shown the highest contempt for the inhabitants of this island.

    By definition, that’s Roman Catholics/nationalists!

    Many of the people i would consider my ‘cultural brethren’ were and are fine Irish Protestants of many denominations. Religion is of little consequence to me. Culture does not equate to Religion. I’d ask you apologise for slandering myself as sectarian.

    In Ireland the Roman Catholic and nationalist communities are virtually synonymous. By choosing “when it comes to NI v ROI then i’m with the cultural brethren in the south i’m afraid”, you’re choosing Catholics/nationalists from the South over those whom you perceive to be Protestant/unionist from your own part of the country. You are making a sectarian choice to mix with Catholic/nationalists only. Don’t be in denial.

  71. Doctor who — thanks for reminding our Scottish guest to our thread that we are, and will always be, the British Champions. Scottish Reality Checker, your team is no world class squad. When have you upset big teams on the international stage? Perhaps you were refering to the world caber toss teams? Most on this thread recognize that NI are no world class team, but we have given some big teams a shock at times in some big games. Has Scotland ever beaten Germany at home and away in the same tournament?
    Strap? No its not netball, its football. The fact that NI are British Champions will always be a fact…or until the tournament is re-instated. I know it upsets you, but its true.
    I am officially signing the “Och Aye must go” petition. It is, however, quite amusing to see him talk of his plans for a merger. LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA
    Merger?? It will never happen wee man. You just keep up your grand scheme as you lay out your plans in your bedroom/office. Hahahaha I’m sure your Action Man and plastic Subbuteo players will sign your petition.

  72. To the Scottish Reality Checker:

    This is from the FIFA Website on you great team

    “Scotland are known throughout the world as something of a FIFA World Cup™ almost team. Despite having reached the finals eight previous times, they have recorded just four wins in 23 matches and never advanced out of the first round.”

    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

  73. Scottish Reality Checker –

    “Scotland is a small “country” but has beat the pants of many teams on the international stage…
    NI is the laughing stock of international football.”

    Looks like you’re due a reality check yourself, as has been pointed out Scotland are ‘famous’ for never having got past the first round of a major international tournament. Surely as a Scotland fan, if you really are one, you know the phrase ‘home before the postcards’? Whereas NI have made it to the World Cup quarter finals on two occasions.

    “Come over on the ferry and see some real world class football”

    Where would be see this ‘real world class football’? Scotland’s decidedly third-rate interational team? Or the uncompetitive SPL, a league several levels of quality below the major European leagues, and competely dominated by a two-team sectarian rivalry?

    “leave your fantasy behind.”

    What ‘fantasy’ is this?

  74. Just supporting a team because it wins all the time indicates a shallow nature. NI team is well respected in part because of the general good behaviour and spirit of its supporters.

  75. I think Och Aye might be away. Reasons are…

    1. Been too busy setting up his merger talks between the IFA and FAI.

    and/or

    2. Shopping for the best deal on a new face-concealing hanky.

    and/or

    3. Practicing banging bin lids for a merge rally.

    and/or

    4. Collecting milk bottles and old rags.

    and/or

    5. Breaking up bricks into comfortable, palm-size chunks.

  76. Och Aye,

    “I can assure you that there will be an All Ireland team in the future as much as you resist it.”

    “I wish” does not equate to “I can assure you”. lol

    You will not see a United Ireland team in your lifetime.

    Get over it.

  77. “I can assure you that there will be an All Ireland team in the future as much as you resist it”.

    Och Aye,

    It’s light years away..

    If you’re a bit nicer to Dr Who, he might lend you his Tardis and you can zoom off to watch them.

  78. Eight?! My that’s quite a few.

    And you really never made it past the first round once?

  79. “Do you realize the only way you ever going to qualify again is if you have an All-Ireland team…”

    Do you not realise Scotland’s chances of ever qualifying again would be massively enhanced by joining a united British tea? I take it you support such a move then?

    “something tells me most of you would rather not qualify ever again than merge…”

    If it’s a choice between our team being abolished, reamining in existence, it’s not a difficult choice, thanks all the same.

    “sad state of affairs over there. Were in the 21st century now lads.”

    What’s that supposed to mean? Northern Ireland fans who want to keep their team are backward – bigots I suppose you’re dying to brand us? Just because we wwant to keep the team we support, because we want our country to have an international football team? What a pathetic and offensive attitude on your part.

  80. And by the way being lectured on this being the 21st century by someone calling himself Braveheart is amusingly ironic…

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