A different view..?

IT’S already the most crowded newspaper market in the UK or Ireland (and possibly even further afield) with, what, 17 daily papers on NI’s shelves now? Seems there’s room for more though, with ex-Sunday People journalist, Ex-Mirror NI editor and ‘Stakeknife’ co-author, Greg Harkin, in charge. The new ‘compact’ (ie it’s a tabloid), Daily View, is expected to be out on April 4 – or was that just Greg’s ploy to spook the Belfast Telegraph, which is also going compact on weekdays around the same time…!

A new weekly paper based in Coleraine will be launched the same week.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Forgot to mention that the Irish News also goes tabloid (sorry ‘compact’) this
    morning, and it has a new website. There’s an interview with Adams too, which might be on Nuzhound tomorrow.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    You can see a pdf of the new-size paper here: here, I’ve just realised.

  • Jacko

    Very impressive.
    The Irish News is streets ahead of any other NI based paper and looks like it intends staying there.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    I think the Irish News new edition is disappointing in the extreme. it’s a pale imitation of Daily Ireland and its news section is dominated by stuff from agencies. Page 3 on its first day was dominated by stuff about BAFTAs and other tabloid trash.

    The interview with Robert McBride contained absolutely no news – the headline said it all. “Police Chief is ANC Bomber” . Hardly news to anyone seeing as McBride was convicted of murder and once spent time on Death Row in Apartheid era South Africa.

    Tom Kelly says he’s going to be blunt in his column and he is exactly that – not the sharpest analysis and packed with cliches. This is second hand stuff of the lowest order.

    Perhaps the Irish News should return to the drawing board again….

  • Belfast Gonzo

    You wouldn’t have any vested interests there, Oilbhéar?

  • Keith M

    Does anyone have the circulation figures for Northern Irish newspapers? I mean if Daily Ireland is doing as badly as some posters here said it was doing last week, then surely it cannot survive, unless of course there’s an infusion of Northern Bank notes!

  • Gonzo

    I’ve heard conflicting reports. Apparently there was a ‘bullish’ editorial claiming 10-15,000 sales (IIRC). The rumour mill has had it at 5-10,000.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    What do unionists think of the Irish News?

    I know it’s nominally a nationalist paper, and its editorials are, I suppose, a pale green, but I would have thought it was as close as we have to a cross-community paper?

    Cross-community in that it offers serious journalism, a decent daily read and, though perhaps a little, Stoop-friendly isn’t particularly party political. It’s quite sensitive to unionist concerns but it ain’t unionist. But a lot of Sinn Fein activists and supporters hate it because its not nationalist enough.

    I suppose it fits that old journalistic maxim that if you’re pissing everyone off, you must be doing something right?

    Or am I totally off-beam here?

  • IJP


    The Irish News is nowhere near cross-community, not even close. I’ve often heard people trying seriously to suggest that it is, which shows just how far we still have to go to create real mutual respect and understanding.

    (I can’t believe I just wrote something so politically correct… I will now return to form…!)

    Its language is entirely nationalist (‘the north’ etc; hardly ‘sensitive’, by the way!)

    Its interests are entirely those of the ‘Catholic community’ (e.g. the mega-Gaelic coverage if Northern teams are involved).

    Its focus is entirely within the ‘Catholic community’ (photos of schools will always be of maintained schools, news from Great Britain goes in or near the ‘world’ section and it is after all ‘news from Ireland and the world’, etc).

    It’s not party-political, but it is aimed absolutely at Catholics and at those Northerners with a broadly all-Irish worldview.

    There’s nothing wrong with that at all, by the way, and that doesn’t make it a bad read. But we should all be honest about it.

    The Newsletter is more overtly party-political, but is in fact less ‘single-community’. It offers, for example, good Gaelic coverage, schools pictures are quite often of Maintained Schools, and so on.

    The Tele’s language (eg ‘Ulster’ to mean six counties) also gives it away as ‘pale orange’.

    Cross-community is very difficult. It takes a lot of time to educate yourself even in the nuances to make cross-community possible. And of course you’ll always have the occasional extremist idiot accusing you of being ‘blatantly on the other side’ (no names…!!), but you know you’re getting somewhere when you’ve got both sets of extremist idiots after you…! 🙂

  • Billy Pilgrim


    Sorry but I nearly spat my dummy out at this one:

    “The Newsletter … offers, for example, good Gaelic coverage”

    I assume you’re just chancing your arm with this one. Gaelic games may as well not exist as far as the News Letter is concerned – which is not a criticism of the News Letter, just an acknowledgement that there isn’t much overlap between those interested in GAA and News Letter readers. The paper will occasionally carry single-column round-ups of the major games (equivalent in column inches to what the Irish News devotes to, say, bowls or javelin-throwing) and sometimes slips the results into the results pages – but only sometimes, and on an ad hoc basis (ie last year they carried the results of one of the Ulster semi-finals but nothing on the final itself – which suggests to me that when the News Letter puts GAA coverage on its pages it’s a case of late on Sunday night, subs looking to fill holes on pages more than anything else.)

    They carried a 450-word report when Armagh won the All Ireland in 2002, for which I applauded them, but carried no match report a year later when Tyrone beat Armagh in the final.

    So it’s a paper that carried no match report when two of the six counties played each other on the biggest stage in GAA. No report WHATSOEVER on the biggest occasion in the history of Ulster GAA. Yet you say:

    “The Newsletter … offers, for example, good Gaelic coverage”

    So it’s fair enough that you would point to the nationalist nomenclature used at the Irish News, and fair enough that you would point to the use of a lower case `n’ in northern Ireland, and terms like the north etc. (Mind you, it’s instructive to think of the terms they don’t use. They lose readers in to the Andytown in west Belfast over their refusal to use terms like volunteer, six counties, British direct rule minister and others that, frankly, few nationalists would onject to.)

    But while your point is a fair one, then you say that the News Letter’s GAA coverage is good – for which any empirical response must be: no, it isn’t. It’s virtually non-existent.

    To which all I can say is that perhaps your standards are more lopsided than you care to admit.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Though I think you’ve hit on an interesting challenge in cross-community endeavours. Fact is, nationalists and unionists are just into different things, and the widespread ignorance of this face-slappingly obvious reality leads to things like, say, unionists criticising GAA coverage in the Irish News – as though it was a calculated insult or something – or nationalists criticising the Tele’s relentless anglocentricity.

    Where can you focus when half the people naturally, genuinely and without prejudice to anyone else see themselves as part of Ireland while the other half equally see themselves as part of Britain?

    And when each crowd resents the other’s differing focus? And sees that focus as feigned and intended only as an insult – a mendacious one at that?