UUP's 'work ethic'…

ANOTHER day, another Ulster Unionist leaflet – this time they’re ‘speaking up for Ulster’. The UUP is trying to capitalise on its track record of holding the Government to account in the House of Commons, and suggests their MPs are working harder than the DUP’s.

  • Occasional Commenter

    The leaflet says the UUP forced a defeat of the Government’s plans to introduce university top-up fees in Northern Ireland. But it seems the Government just have introduced them anyway.

  • aquifer

    Who knows what these people get up to in Westminster. They are plainly never in government so accountability barely arises. Anyone found a handy way to see how they all vote yet?

  • jimmyquickswipe

    I love their slogans, they’ve just got that ring to it which sounds so familiar:

    “Tough on Crime, Tough on the Proceeds of Crime” 2005
    “Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime” 1997

    “Speaking up for Ulster” 2005
    “Delivering for Ulster” 2004

    Who’s the marketing consultants – Trimble & Trimble?

    It’s just a shame their “Save Our Schools” campaign is so disgracefully hypocritical, since they gave McGuinness the power to wreck what they’re now campaigning to save.

  • aquifer

    Yes none of these sectarian parties should have to take responsibility for implementing the GFA. It was plainly the government’s job and they fluffed it.

  • Will

    Another week, another UUP leaflet which somewhat stretches the truth.

    With the first one they just decided to abandon all sense of reality and since that they’ve stuck to a similar vein. Its all very interesting knowing that Sylvia Hermon et al live in the restaurants of Westminster voting on issues like roads in Somerset but how exactly does that help me here? Also, why no mention of written questions tabled in the leaflet? Surely they wouldnt be taking selective pieces of info or massaging figures to give a false impression?

    “Tough on crime” – that really is a laugh. It seems they’ve only taken an interest in some criminal activites after they realised their voters wernt too keen on them sitting in Government with the criminals while they were importing guns from Florida, training FARC terrorists in Colombia etc etc…. Plenty of tough talk about the recent activities, but a strange absence of all the criminal activity that was going on while Davy boy and the rest were tucked up in the Executive with armed IRA Army Council members.

  • Michael Shilliday

    Also, why no mention of written questions tabled in the leaflet?

    Because that requires no disernable talent whatsoever.

  • pakman

    A couple of points – let’s be fair on Sylvia; an MPs’ role is to be her constituents’ representative in Westminster not Westminsters’ representative in her constituency (not that I’ll be voting for her though). Secondly from what I hear NIO polling makes even bleaker reading for Vichy Unionism than the BBC/ BT poll of last week especially in Belfast. I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m off to Eastwoods …

  • George

    I do wish these Ulster unionists would stop saying they represent Ulster when they actually mean Northern Ireland. I thought the days of territorial claims were over.

    Still no Irishness present in anything the UUP puts forward either but at least we got an even bigger union flag than the last time.

    Page four reminds us all, just in case we didn’t know it already, that the party is only intereted in British people applying.

    How do the UUP intend stopping industrial de-rating?

    How do the UUP intend financing it?

    A bigger begging bowl perhaps?

  • Moderate Unionist

    How do the UUP intend stopping industrial de-rating?
    Industrial de-rating is currently in force, so perhaps they are suggesting that they wont introduce it. That seems easy enough to do, of course it will require the Assembly (although not presently available) or Westminster to agree. They might also levy a different charge.

    How do the UUP intend financing it
    Increasing the tax burden on mobile capital actually reduces tax take. You should know you’ve argued the case often enough.

    Perhaps we should see full tax harmonisation with our low tax entrepreneurial neighbour which offer 10 years rate free. Wonder how they finance it? Perhaps they think it makes good business sense not to tax the wealth creators?

  • pakman


    why should a political party dedicated (supposedly) to preventing the Irish state absorbing this province incorporate any “Irishness” in its’ output?

  • Peter Brown

    A comparison of the level of work done by the respective MLAs and Councillors would be at least as if not more interesting, particularly how Office Costs Allowances are claimed and spent….

  • Michael Shilliday

    Goog luck in your election campaign by the way Peter.

  • George

    Moderate Unionist,
    “Increasing the tax burden on mobile capital actually reduces tax take. You should know you’ve argued the case often enough”.

    The industrial derating is to help finance the necessary infrastructural investment in Northern Ireland.

    It is a simple subvention to industry introduced in 1929 as a response to growing competition in markets for manufactured goods from foreign countries.

    Unless you believe the people of Northern Ireland can get rich competing with the Chinese in making T-shirts, it is outdated in 2005) as it is money for old rope. It doesn’t create jobs or wealth.

    It is not investment in business, it is a subvention for it. I support investment and incentive, I don’t support subvention.

    What Northern Ireland needs to do is to move away from this type of subvention and build a knowledge-based economy. Invest in the people and the infrastructure.

    If you don’t have the necessary infrastructure and educated workforce, you won’t get the investment so it’s a question of balancing things.

    What Northern Ireland is doing at the moment is masking its productivity deficit by subvention but I believe businesses can make up the deficit from the derating by productivity gains. If they don’t then they shouldn’t be in NI in the first place. Change will be tough but it must come.

    What NI needs to do is to eradicate subvention and offer incentives. There is a difference.

    because Northern Ireland will not be a successful part of the union in the long term if there is no place for Irish people in it (43% of the voting electorate) and I think the UUP is the only unionist party capable of putting a case for Irish unionism.

    Lose this case and you lose the union, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but in 10, 20, 50 or 100 years time.

  • George

    Moderate Unionist,
    for example, Northern Ireland would be better served giving businesses an incentive to make money by cutting the corporation tax.

    I think it’s over 30% in Northern Ireland while it’s 12.5% in the Irish Republic. Maybe the UUP could ask Westminster if they would let Northern Ireland have a separate corporate tax rate to the rest of the UK. Good luck!