Sinn Féin's Westminster allowances blocked

So (as well as losing their £120,000 Assembly grant), following today’s decision in the Commons Sinn Féin MPs will lose around £400,000 in Westminster allowances – that’s £400,000 that, unlike the Assembly grant, they did receive last year.

According to the BBC report

A cross-party motion to permanently evict the MPs from their Westminster offices was defeated by 358 to 170.

While the various parties had different views on the sanctions –

Speaking in the debate, Mr Murphy said the government motion “made plain parliament’s disapproval of criminality” while locking all the main parties in to the “democratic path”.

DUP leader Ian Paisley asked how the government could reconcile the motion with the “strong line it was taking on terrorism” in the Bill currently being debated in parliament.

UUP leader David Trimble said that his party had “lukewarm support” for the government motion but would vote for the stronger amendments.

The SDLP’s Seamus Mallon told the chamber that he would not vote for the motion or amendments because he did not want to “make martyrs” of Sinn Fein MPs.

He accused them of “hypocrisy” for taking their Westminster allowances in the first place.

  • Young Irelander

    Mallon is absolutely right.We’re told that Sinn Fein oppose British rule in Ireland yet they’re still willing to take British money.Pathetic.

  • PaddyCanuck

    Its not British money, people in Mid Ulster, W Belfast, West Tryone, and Fermanagh/South Tyrone pay taxes. Their representatives are enitled to the allowances.

  • Young Irelander

    Of course it’s British money.And the offices they use at Westminster are British as well.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Another rather tired attempt to disrupt the constituency work of Sinn Fein.
    It should be rembered that in the recent past members of that House were responsible for rubber stamping the murder of people who worked in and took advantage of those constituency services.

    In that respect it is at least a good sign that the British Government are using none lethal actions against Sinn Fein. There may be hope for the British even at this late stage.

  • aquifer

    £400,000 What the point. Do the democratic parties have the services of IRA volunteers paid for by robbery, diesel frauds, and extortion? No. Give the democratic parties £400,000 each instead of feeding SFPIRA’s inflated sense of victimhood.

  • slim_shady

    A token gesture, from a, ‘confused as Sinn Fein(.co.uk)’, British parliment.

  • drumcree

    When Sinn Fein/PIRA apparently now have access to close to £1 billion of assets and are in a postion to launder their dirty Northern Bank notes through Bulgarian-based banks the type of which the IRA wanted to buy (http://www.richarddelevan.blogspot.com/) everyone should just get serious about this menace. Shut them down and lock them up. That’s the only language they are going to understand at the moment.

  • GavBelfast

    For all the concern about Sin Fein exploiting their victimhood mentality, it seems thatb whatever they do or have done to them, the support for them seems larely unaffected.

    On that basis, if they deserve punishment, what is the practical point in NOT applying sanctions?

  • murphii4word

    So, the penalty phase of justice preceeds the prosecutorial phase and the conviction phase and the sentencing phase.
    Neat! They used to convict and sentence without juries. This new system saves all those extra steps.
    Bob Murphy
    New Jersey

  • Young Irelander

    Bob Murphy,

    No doubt you feel the IRA’s sense of justice is all well and good!

  • murphii4word

    Young Irelander

    No, no. Not at all. If they are found guilty give them full measure.

    Bob Murphy
    New Jersey

  • AW

    Pity they would not save us all a lot of money and simply wind up the Assembly completely while they are at it. It would clarify minds wonderfully.

    Initial thought is that Sinn Fein will not suffer as, if rumour is right, they are well cushioned. They also receive subsidies in all sorts of ways like the unemployed volunteer who collects benefits. More worrying for them is the sisterhood’s trip to the USA and the potential that that has to further disrupt funds and support from that quarter. Republicans would be far better represented by the likes of the McCartney sisters than they are by a morally bankrupt Sinn Fein, but still their vote will turn out.

    What does Sinn Fein have to do to make people realise that the relationship they have with an armed and criminal militia is to say the least unusual and really not desirable? Who will they murder next, my son your daughter mother or father? Who will they rob, who will they terrorise next? Who will they lean on because it suits or is expedient? What does it take for people to realise that kangaroo courts and summary executions and punishment beatings really are not acceptable? If 15 % of the electorate in Meath vote Sinn Fein Ireland should bow its head in shame.

  • D’Oracle

    Young Irelander,
    Is that a real handle or are you just a bit eh..confused?

    Anyway, while”… the offices they use at Westminster are British..” cant be other than true, the really studied bit of this “measured” decision is , as I understand it , SF doesnt use those offices at all!

    I predict some new SF posters for the next Election ; something along the lines “Vote SF-We do it for less”

    Devil take the Queen.

    Goodnight

  • Young Irelander

    D’Oracle

    “Young Irelander,
    Is that a real handle or are you just a bit…eh confused?”

    I could ask you the same question:)

  • DessertSpoon

    So they don’t use the offices?? Where has Lembit Opik been going and who has he been speaking to? He seems to think they use their offices. And before you ask I don’t have a link for that it was just a comment he made on the radio the other day.

  • DerryTerry

    “Mallon is absolutely right.We’re told that Sinn Fein oppose British rule in Ireland yet they’re still willing to take British money.Pathetic.”

    Young Irelander,

    I thought all Irish Nationalists opposed British rule in Ireland, we just disagree as to the best way of bringing it to an end.

    As to pathetc I would imagine the most pathetic thing about this whole incident is that the elected representatives of a political party are being punished for a bank robbery that was carried out by persons unknown.

    However, if you are determined to use the word how about applying it to our illustrous keystone cops, who have spent an estimated 28,800 hours of their finest detectives time finding no money, no van and no evidence. (PLenty of intelligence but)

  • Young Irelander

    DerryTerry

    “I thought all Irish Nationalists opposed British rule in Ireland, we just disagree as to the best way of bringing it to an end.”

    But Sinn Fein are Irish republicans(apparently) and if they are willing to abstain from Westminster, why are they not willing to abstain from taking allowances?

    “I would imagine the most pathetic thing about this whole incident is that the elected representatives of a political party are being punished for a bank robbery that was carried out by persons unknown.”

    Persons unknown?Even the dogs on the street know it was the Provos that did it.The Taoiseach thinks so on the advice of the Garda Commissioner,the British PM thinks so on the advice of the Chief Constable, and every party on the island bar Sinn Fein thinks so.The majority of the Irish people share this view and the rest who do not either do not want to believe or are instead willing to tolerate IRA criminality.Shame on them.

  • Visioner

    “It should be rem (m) bered that in the recent past members of that House were responsible for rubber stamping the murder of people who worked in and took advantage of those constituency services.”

    Paddy McL iar, does this count the SF/IRA bloody murder(s) of representatives Robert Bradford and Edgar Graham?

    As Young Irelander has said – these guys are quick enough to take the money when it comes to the British Government but their never done moaning.

    They shouldn’t even get any money at all or even access to the Palace of Westminster while engaged in activity and until proven otherwise.

    Who I feel sorry for is the Constituents of these Constituencies that the Shinners are supposed to represent, but don’t. However its great the way they turn it round (as always) and blame the British Government.

    How is a law bidding subject/citizen of Fermangh-South Tyrone supposed to get day-to-day issues resolved?

    It was great the way Sinn Fein opposed top-up fees in principle yet they wouldn’t express this in our national Parliament! By that they recogised that fees could be introduce in this part of the U.K. yet they seem to put up this smoke screen to protect their followers from the fact that we live in the U.K. and not the ROI. Ah, its a funny world!

    If the Lib Dem’s where to form a policy of abstention they wouldn’t be around for too long.

  • peteb

    Visioner

    Play the ball.. any argument you make is undermined by adding a personal attack.

  • Roger W. Christ XVII

    “Another rather tired attempt to disrupt the constituency work of Sinn Fein.”

    Republicans just can’t do without their easy money from the British government. So much for independence from foreign interference.