IRA must go out of business!

Mitchell Reiss has told the BBC “It’s time for the IRA to go out of business. And it’s time for Sinn Fein to be able to say that explicitly, without ambiguity, without ambivalence, that criminality will not be tolerated.”

  • The Devil

    *************** WHY *********************

    Who is to say they can’t take power in Ireland with a ballot-box in one hand and a Knife in the other

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Gee whizz,

    is that the same Reiss who is part of an administration that will sell guns to any corrupt and right wing junta throughout the world?

    Is that the same Reiss who is part on an administration that allows the sale of guns to virtually any of its citizens with a driving licence, resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of its own citizens every year?

    Is that the same Reiss who is part of an administration that lied through its teeth over WMD and started a war claiming tens of thousands simply to control the flow of oil.

    I could go on but i’ve lost imnterest in wastes of space like Reiss.

    This person has the neck to lecture over one death in Belfast. That is surely vomit inducing.

  • Mick Fealty

    A mild touch of whataboutery there Pat?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Mick,

    only mild? At least I was spared a yellow for playing the superpower and not the ball.

  • Mick Fealty

    🙂

  • TroubledTimes

    It is important for the future of peace in Ireland for all the paramiltaries to go out of business.
    To do this a date should be set in the future for all named paramilitary organisations (Both Republican and Loyalist) to attend a secret location with some of their members present and allow filming of the event.
    At this event all sides should sign a pledge that they are going out of business to allow politics to work.
    No one side can be humiliated here because they are giving up their arms together.
    Then, Sinn Fein should be accepted as democratic and therefore the DUP and other Unionists can move forward with fully Devolved Government including Policing powers.
    This will seal the peace and benefit all sides.

  • The Devil

    Gee whizz,
    is that the same murdering regime that after Bushes election S/F said they could work with.

    is that the same regime that S/F want to wear their armanis for, to get the fancy diners and souviner photos with, (with no mention of the poor tens of thousands of Iraqis)

    is that the same regime S/F tried to suck up too after 9/11 by stating terrorism was indefensible just don’t ask us for photos.

  • Jacko

    Gee whizz,
    Ain’t it nice to see the Pats back?

  • cg

    I presume you mean Pat Jacko 😉

  • ShayPaul

    TroubleTimes

    Any particular dress code for your garden party ?

  • Mick Fealty

    SP, can you email me with what’s going wrong?

  • Brian Boru

    Pat
    As I said to PaddyCanuck
    You need to turn that rapier sword inwards to rout out the poison within your own ranks.
    The topic here is:
    IRA must go out of business!
    Its not the time to go on a rant about the US.
    Must stop playing ping-pong and face the issues of the day.
    When are we going to see some healthy honest positive inward self-reflection from you on current events.

  • ShayPaul

    It seems Dodds sees something sinister in the business figures, or am I mistaken in smelling sectarian overtones ?

  • TroubledTimes

    Shay Paul,
    As long as there are paramiltaries there cannot be a proper democracy. Therefore the flippant comparison to a tea party only reinforces the fact that it is semi acceptable that paramilitaries here are allowed to continue to exist(on both sides).
    The fact that there are groups out there running around acting above the law is nothing short of despicable.
    Whilst were at it, I think it should be made compulsory that all children must go to integrated schools That would soon end paramiltiarism as kids wouldnt be so brainwashed into thinking that they are different from other people in their community.
    Our constitutional desires are only a fault of birth. Catholics and Protestants are not different. The rulebooks of their faiths are but how many Catholics and Protestants out there follow the rulebooks of their faith. End paramilitarism collectively and integrate all the schools – thats the recipe for peace!

  • IJP

    Pat

    Hypocritical though it may be, what is actually wrong with Reiss’s analysis, in your view?

    Presumably you believe the IRA should not go out of business – in which case, what role do you see for the IRA?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    IJP,

    1. Well Reiss’s hypocricy is astounding.

    2. You presume wrong.

    3. Your third point is therefore irrelevant.

  • IJP

    Pat

    1. I think there’s a case for that, yes!

    2. Glad to hear it.

    3. Agreed.

    4. Welcome back.

  • mnob

    One man’s hypocracy is another man’s truth, same as one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.

  • J Kelly

    TT your post of 06:47 PM is astounding as it implies that only paramilitary organisations need to go out of business to allow politics to work. Special Branch, FRU, MI5 all played and continue to paly a major part in the conflict and are very much part of why politics is not allowed to work. This is not whataboutery this is fact and needs to be addressed.

    What is required is all groups and parties involved need to carve out an agreement that allows all politics to work without humilitation, defeat or victory for anyone. I believe that republicans are up to this task.

  • IJP

    mnob

    Even if a man is a hypocrite, he may still be speaking the truth.

    As in this case.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Let’s hope that the intervention of Reiss et al coupled with the so called ban from the Paddywhackery at the White House does bring the SF leadership to its senses.
    There was great unease among nationalists as Adams and Mc Guinness drove by peace activists at Hillsborough on the way to meet Vietnam Vet(sorry) Atlanta Vet Bush during the build up to the second Oil War.

    They just about got away with it by announcing that at that juncture the Peace process needed that type of dialogue.
    Only a fool now believes that those people now in power in the USA have any interest in Ireland.

    Their ideals are abhorrent to most Irish people and to have to listen to their lectures on violence etc (at a time when they are continuing their global killing spree) is pathetic.
    There is no place in having any contact with the present administration at all. SF should have the basic dignity to tell them that. If that means a ban on fund raising then SF should simply say ‘so what’.

    Giving the finger to that weasel eyed coward would surely be worth its weight in dollars.

  • IJP

    Pat

    Certainly, unlike the SF leadership, you are consistent. Broadly I agree.

    The US can be and on select occasions has been a force for good in the world. However, like any other country, its foreign policy is based on its own interests. A perfectly legitimate position, but we should not be fooled into thinking Ireland is an exception.

    We have to solve our own problems, we haven’t got time to be a pawn in anyone else’s political games.