I'll name that stadium in one…

NOW that the Maze site has got the official nod for the new sports stadium, what will we call it? Should the Government hold a competition? Talkback has had a few suggestions phoned in – The Pinnacle, The Oasis, The Amazing (geddit?) – but none seemed to capture my imagination. My prediction? The Coca Cola Stadium, if you’ll excuse the cynicism. Can Sluggerettes do better?

  • lámh dearg

    The White Elephant

    The Black Hole

    No Hope Park

    The Waste of Space

  • Dec

    The Stadium of Shite?

  • Beowulf

    That’s the spirit lads, make sure and avoid any stereotypes or cliches with your comments now won’t ya?

  • Billy Pilgrim

    How about naming it after one of our great sporting heroes?

    Jackie Kyle Park?
    The Pat Jennings stadium?
    The George Best stadium? (Maybe not.)

    How about Setanta Park?

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Actually, Setanta Stadium would be more phonetically pleasing.

  • maca

    Páirc Naomh Phádraig / St.Patricks Park

  • Dec

    Give over, Beowulf

    It’s Friday, Im bored. The entire concept of planning a multi-million pound Stadium with accompanying retail and leisure park next door to a jumped up market town is utter shite hence the name. Who says satire has to be subtle?

  • George

    Why not sell the naming rights to some sponsor?

    FG Wilson Engineering park or the like.

    That should annoy all sides equally and retain a healthy balance.

  • Beowulf

    Give over yourself Dec, calling that satire is really stretching the definition thin.

  • willowfield

    Gonzo

    The Maze site has NOT got the nod for the stadium(although, admittedly it’s only a matter of time). What has happened is that the “Maze Panel” has recommended that the Maze site be used for a stadium.

    As for names, how about the Unislim Stadium?

    I wonder will they exclude toilet facilities and catering to symbolise the significance of the site?

  • George

    Willowfield,
    you may get pleasure out of the suffering of your enemies but most right-thinking people don’t.

  • Jacko

    Dec

    Stadium of Shite – I thought you were alluding to the dirty protest as well as the likely performance of the NI football team when they play there. If you had been, it would have been good satire.

  • willowfield

    Stadium of Shite’s a good one.

    BTW, George, “the suffering of my enemies” was entirely self-inflicted, unlike the heinous crimes they inflicted on others.

  • Baslamak

    why not name it after Stephen Restorick, as hopefully he will be the last solder killed by PIRA.

  • maca

    Jesus lads, the smallest thing and you have to turn it into an argument. There’s no hope for yeez.

  • Baslamak

    You could also add the last republican killed by the British army.

  • slackjaw

    The Red Hand Stadium. Sorted.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Willowfield

    I thought of that, but since the panel was set up by the government and since they told the government what it wanted to hear, I thought that the nod was at least as good as a wink to a blind horse.

  • slackjaw

    The Stadium of Shite is gonna stick, I reckon.

    Sunderland’s Stadium of Light was inspired by the Portuguese stadium of the same name. Perhaps the Government should look further afield for inspiration.

    In Argentina they have a great stadium called La Bombonera. Perhaps a local variant on this is in order – Lá Bomb-on-Eire Memorial Ground, or Ra Bombin’ Era Park?

    I know, that’s really crap. But it’s a really crap idea.

  • George

    Willowfield,
    I criticised you for getting enjoyment out of the suffering of your enemies, which tellingly you didn’t deny. I find that type of trait reprehensible in a person.

    I call it the “Gotcha” mentality.

    By the way, you are wrong (I thought I’d put it in bold as you have such difficulty with the word) when you say the suffering wasn’t all self-inflicted. That shows how much you know about what went on in the H-Blocks but I’m not going to be the one to teach you that one. Some things you have to learn for yourself. But to learn, you first have to open your mind.

    PS. Sunderland already have a stadium of shite guys as it is built on a dump, any chance someone could come up with an original phrase.

  • George

    Should read “was all self-inflicted”

  • willowfield

    George

    I criticised you for getting enjoyment out of the suffering of your enemies, which tellingly you didn’t deny. I find that type of trait reprehensible in a person.

    I find the fact that you don’t consider terrorists to be your enemy reprehensible. For your information, I get no enjoyment from anyone’s suffering.

    By the way, you are wrong (I thought I’d put it in bold as you have such difficulty with the word) when you say the suffering wasn’t all self-inflicted.

    Refusing to eat food and choosing to smear one’s own shit over one’s own cell walls was the personal choice of those who took part. No-one forced them. So enough of your dishonesty.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Maca

    “Jesus lads, the smallest thing and you have to turn it into an argument. There’s no hope for yeez.”

    Spot on mate.

    (Willow: you should read the Scarlet Letter, and take particular interest in the character of Roger Chillingworth. It’s a great study in how even the most justified schadenfreude uglifies and ultimately destroys your soul. Then maybe you wouldn’t make sick jokes about the hunger strikers – not for their sake but for your own.)

  • willowfield

    Billy Pilgrim

    I’ve no qualms about making sick jokes about those who terrorised our society. It’s the least they deserve.

    Instead of condemning me for attacking such people, you should direct your condemnations towards those who terrorised and destroyed lives.

  • George

    Willowfield,
    if you dehumanise others, you are only dehumanising yourself.

    The last thing you should want is for your own morality to sink to such low levels that your soul gets pleasure at making “sick jokes”.

    Sick jokes are the preserve of the sick, hence the name.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    I’m not attacking you Willow, in fact I’m trying to be a friend to you. Even if you feel entitled to exult in the deaths of republicans, you should not do so – for your own sake. Your comment about the hunger strikers said nothing about them but quite a lot about you. You might think that’s unfair and point to the nature of the people whose horrendous deaths have you so contorted with joy, but it’s your contortions that people remember.

    I’d urge you to read the Scarlet Letter so you might understand what I mean.

  • willowfield

    George

    if you dehumanise others, you are only dehumanising yourself.

    That may be so, but I am not “dehumanising” others. Unlike the terrorists who you do not consider to be your enemies, who literally “dehumanised” thousands.

    Billy Pilgrim

    Even if you feel entitled to exult in the deaths of republicans, you should not do so – for your own sake.

    I don’t exult in the deaths of so-called republicans, so your advice is irrelevant.

    Your comment about the hunger strikers said nothing about them but quite a lot about you.

    Wise up and get a sense of humour.

  • Ringo

    Willowfield – they’re gratuitous remarks – they don’t do anyone any good.

    How about the Johnny Carey Stadium.

    Played for NI, also played for the Republic, fought in the British Army in WW2. And an Old Trafford legend.

  • George

    Actually Willowfield you are dehumanising others, it is in this way that you are dehumanising yourself.

    “Unlike the terrorists who you do not consider to be your enemies.”

    I never said or implied anything of the sort. I’d appreciate if you would retract this fabrication.

    As for your “wise up and get a sense of humour”, I hope you’ll understand if others don’t join in your sick joke frenzy.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Wise up and get a sense of humour.

    Willowfield

    After what happened to Pat, that is skating on thin ice with the personals.

    Whether you and I think it right or not, slagging the hunger strikers – which is not actually in breach of the rules here and not what prompted this post – is to touch a very raw nerve within republicanism.

    So if you’re going to light the touch paper, I’d rather just close the comments on this thread. Mick might go for exclusion, but there’s nothing stopping me from taking the two governments’ line and just punishing everyone!

    :o)

    Let’s see how it goes…

    Thank you for reading!

  • Jacko

    Ringo
    The link with Old Trafford has to rule Johnny Carey out.

    If we really want to name it for someone how’s about James Magennis? Falls Road man, Victoria Cross recipient and long, long overdue the recognition he deserved.
    The wee man was a war hero and his exploits weren’t given due recognition by either side.
    Absolute disgrace, especially regarding the unionist tossers who ruled Belfast City Hall for decades but chose to ignore Magennis because of his religion.

  • Young Irelander

    Well judging by what gets regarded as being “cross-community” in Ireland’s north,no doubt the name chosen will be something like the Queen Mother stadium.

    I agree with maca.St.Patrick’s Stadium would be a good choice.

  • big white dove

    What about the “new stadium that will never and can never host a GAA match” I think the GAA played a blinder here, a 30,000 seater could just about hold the womens GAA football final, chances of a stadium being built in my lifetime ZERO

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Jacko

    Daily Ireland had a great headline on a story about Magennis the other day.

    “Legend of the Falls”.

    Magennis is a good idea but there are plenty of avenues for the irreconcilables to exploit. (British soldier, Catholic, from the Falls, shunned by the Catholic church, shunned by the unionist establishment. The list goes on.)

    So though Magennis might be a good idea, it’s just asking for trouble from our many band-wagoners.

    I suggested Setanta because he was a great sporting as well as cultural icon. (Last good hurler Armagh ever had…) To nationalists Setanta (who later became Cuchullain) was a great icon of Irish folklore. To unionists he was the great defender of Ulster. He’s an icon we have in common.

    I chose Setanta because I don’t think we should only be trying to get a name that won’t offend anyone. We should try and think of something inspirational. Something like the Red Hand stadium would be a DFR. Magennis would be hard to object to – though I wouldn’t overstate how significant his Catholicism is to nationalists.

    However the sheer middle-of-the-roadness of these names only highlights how little we do agree on and how hard we find it not to alienate each other. But Setanta, Cuchullain, the Red Branch Knights, the Ulster Cycle – that is something poetic and inspirational and magnificent that we have in common. Why not that?

  • PaddyCanuck

    Bobby Sands Memorial Park.

  • CavanMan

    Paddycanuck
    great idea,im sure the Northern Irish fans would love it. :o)

  • Davros

    Would Setanta not have problems because of it’s commercial overtones ( Setanta sports ) ?

    Red Hand Park ? Too Loaded. Long para-political history – from the Irish Citizen Army through to loyalist killers.

    There will be S. American Connotations if Coca Cola are to be there … I suggest “Farc Parc“.

  • Jacko

    Billy Pilgrim
    I take all your points, it’s just that my blood boils whenever I think of the man. He was treated abysmally, I think we all owe his memory so much.

    PaddyCanuck
    If we we’re going down that road, then why not The Henry Joy McCracken Stadium or, better still, after a Lisburn man,The Henry Munro Stadium or, better still again, and to show we aren’t completely sexist, after a girl who lived not far distant, The Betsy Gray Stadium.

    I’m enjoying this.

  • JD

    After the colourful suggestions, I’ll go the pedestrian route:

    “The rectangular place where balls of all shapes and sizes are knocked about by people of diverse backgrounds and genders. With people (etc.) looking at them.”

    That’d look good on a (modestly sized) plaque, no?

  • Davros

    JD : “I’ll go the pedestrian route”

    Walking ? Not a very Politically Correct Phrase 🙂

  • JD

    Walking ? Not a very Politically Correct Phrase 🙂

    Oh, bugger.

  • IJP

    Let’s just hope Orange doesn’t win the sponsorship battle…

  • beano

    Titanic Stadium

    Raze The Maze!