Red cards…

We’ve just handed out a couple of red cards for personal attacking. No one here wants to do it. And the guys in question will be welcome back in two weeks with open arms. But please remem,ber we run a Rugby ethic here. Arguing with the ref does nothing to help your cause! In the meantime, play on! And enjoy!!

  • Davros

    you must read different books than I do George.

  • George

    Davros,
    are you saying I am wrong about 1911 and 1973, namely that when the British government tried to do a constitutional deal with the Irish people as a whole rather than simply following unionism’s whim, unionism resorted to violence and undemocratic means?

  • Davros

    I would have to choose my words very carefully before I answered your question George. Let’s just say that because of your evident hostility towards members of my community, past and present, nothing I am likely to write is likely to alter you from being negative to being positive.

  • PaddyCanuck

    Davros, why do you avoid the debate with George and Myself. You try to portray George as sectarian, because he puts up a vigorous counterposition to your argument.

    Who was that tried to label republicans as nazis, on the most flimsy basis, surely that is evidence of prejudice.

  • IJP

    I hesitate to try to suggest what Davros is trying to say, but to give my take on it:

    are you saying I am wrong about 1911 and 1973, namely that when the British government tried to do a constitutional deal with the Irish people as a whole rather than simply following unionism’s whim, unionism resorted to violence and undemocratic means?

    This is clearly correct.

    However, the problem is that once you concede anything to ‘the other side’, they use it as justification for all sorts of other ills that their ‘community’ carried out. And that’s part of the crux?

    PC

    We are all sectarian. The task is to remove sectarianism from politics, and to make it irrational.

  • Davros

    Davros, why do you avoid the debate with George and Myself.

    Re George, I don’t want to enter yellow or red card territory. George is OK, I respect him and enjoy our exchanges.

    Re you, you are thousands of miles away stuck in a 70’s Noraid time-warp and as such aren’t worth the bother.

    Two honest answers.

  • JD

    However, the problem is that once you concede anything to ‘the other side’, they use it as justification for all sorts of other ills that their ‘community’ carried out. And that’s part of the crux?

    But to concede nothing (no matter what) is surely “irrational”? To not concede anything can (and does) infuriate people, which seems to me to breed distrust and (more) irrational responses.

    It just seems that it has a huge potential to backfire.

  • Visioner

    And haven’t Pat, CG et all being pretty visible during this time?

    Yup, they’ve been visible all right. And their decision to walk off the pitch together only adds credence to the notion that they see this forum as a place where they can work together to ensure that their agenda is kept to the fore.

    I would agree.

    Their dominance in recent months has been visable and I have noticed regular posters disappear completely.

  • barnshee

    George
    “There wasn’t systematic discrimination in the areas of housing, employment etc south of the border the way there was north of the border. Southern Protestants didn’t want to join the police because they set their sights on being lawyers and judges. Big difference.”

    Claptrap– The prod, via murder, discrimination and boycott was reduced to an irrelvant rump — I am the decendent of both sides of people who had to leave the new ROI because they were prods-funnily enough in that hotbed of discrimination– NI– the catholic population incresed by leaps and boun ds