Forget the Northern Bank!

The NYT reports that Irish Raids Net Vast Sums That Are Tied to the I.R.A.. Well, as that old worn out saying goes, Time will tell. But again it doesn’t look good. Each time a suspect is arrested and then released many nationalists will continue to believe this is some kind of put up job. But there is a kind of attritional value in these headlines coming out day after day, and from media outlets far from the usual suspects.

Only one man so far faces charges, former Sinn Fein man and a former leading light in Cork Sinn Fein, who is now reportedly a dissident. But we may find that the financial investigations turn up a lot more than deadweight cash from the Northern Bank.

  • peteb

    There’s an interesting addendum to that Republican News link, Mick.. as noted by The Broom

    From the Belfast Telegraph

    “I’m not aware he[Bullman] ever worked in Cork,” she said. “I’m not saying he didn’t, but I never met him.”

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    A lot of the hunters can see the brush in the distance but this weekend it seems the fox is still a good bit in front of the hounds.

  • Mick Fealty

    Good analogy Pat! 🙂

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Couldn’t help being topical Mick.

  • alex s

    As I have said before the struggle for Irish freedom has degenerated into a grubby money grabbing exercise

  • aquifer

    It could cost a lot to keep paramilitary networks in place, even without skimming, graft, or any resources slipped to SF. Didn’t Devalera raise millions in the US for the first civil war. It would not surprise me if the IRAs recent statements were also for the benefit of donors, voluntary and involuntary, in the post 9/11 regulatory climate.

    Then there is the matter of Cultural Hedgemoney, or the traditional shared routes of smuggling and IRA actions in South Armagh. Some people could never like the police.

    Party funding here is way behind Europe and possibly even the US, making any wee boost in personnel or materiel worth a lot to any party that benefits.

  • George

    aquifer,
    I thought De Valera raised the money during the War of Independence which was used to help the Irish Defence Forces in their defence of the democratically elected parliament of the country.

    He paid it back too and asked for it back again to set up the Irish Press.

    I don’t believe he did any fundraising in the US for paramilitaries during the Irish Civil War.
    Open to correction but that is my understanding.

  • Davros

    Pat : A lot of the hunters can see the brush in the distance but this weekend it seems the fox is still a good bit in front of the hounds.

    You seem to be conceding that the fox is present and that the hounds are on the right trail pat LOL
    SF’s line is that it’s a false trail.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Davros,

    it was a slightly (ever so) humourous analogy combining two different media events.
    However the fox and hounds do indeed exist, as we all know.

  • Davros

    LOL pat 🙂

  • PaddyCanuck

    Here are the only headlines with any substance that can appear in tomorrows papers!

    REAL IRA Link to Northern Raid Confirmed.

    RUC Link to Northern Raid confirmed.

    Berties buddy linked to Money Laundering operation.

    Sinn Fein man exonerated, Released without Charge!

    Press and Media guilty of jumping on band wagon which did’nt exist!

    Which do you prefer?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    PaddyC

    do you not think it was strange that such a highly prominent republican (Phil Flynn) was almost a member of Bertie Aherns’ kitchen cabinet? A past VP of SF he never made a secret of the fact he was still very much a republican who retained his friends of yesteryear.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Davros,

    are you pulling my chain you cheeky git?

  • Jimmy Sands

    I’m curious as to the basis for saying there is an RIRA connection, and in what respect it’s more substantial than the provo connection.

  • Jimmy Sands

    I’m curious as to the basis for saying there is an RIRA connection, and in what respect it’s more substantial than the provo connection.

  • Jimmy Sands

    I’m curious as to the basis for saying there is an RIRA connection, and in what respect it’s more substantial than the provo connection.

  • Jacko

    Pat Mc Larnon
    Yes Pat, was struck myself by your little poetic touch in an earlier post – there may be more to you than meets the keyboard.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Jimmy,

    Noel Conroy stated yesterday that one of the people arrested was a dissident republican, it was subsequently stated that the person charged was that dissident and he was a Real IRA member.

    Could be crap, you pays your money and takes your choice.

  • Davros

    are you pulling my chain you cheeky git?

    I cannot tell a lie ! Yes 😉

  • Jimmy Sands

    Pat,

    I had assumed that the Gardai were the source, although I’ve seen nothing attributable. Seems hard to see how anyone could accept that and rubbish the rest of their intelligence.

  • aquifer

    George

    So did Dev raise the big money for the war of independence in the US and use it to fight the treaty forces afterwards? Don’t have the history books handy to reference I’m afraid, but I guess guns and money are still a pretty combustible combination. Turn the aggro outwards (during the civil war, to the North and damn community relations; more recent loyalist assassinations of catholics) to keep the guerrilla battalions from shooting at one another?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Jacko,

    and I can flutter my eyelashes.

    Jimmy,

    as stated pays ur money.

  • PaddyCanuck

    I am getting worried, what with all the fluttering of eyelashes, and flirting going on around here, please save romance for other sites guys!!!!!

  • Henry94

    Jimmy

    Seems hard to see how anyone could accept that and rubbish the rest of their intelligence.

    The difference is that they have charged this particular individual so they will have to stand their allegations up in court rather than just leaking them to Jim Cusack.

  • George

    Aquifer,
    Dev didn’t support the Anti-Treaty forces financially or with equipment.

    He agreed a constitutional deal with Collins but this fell through as it was outside the treaty. Within a year, 3000 people were dead.

    Civil wars don’t need money or guns to start, the IRA in 1969 had little of both.