Spreading mess of the Northern Bank raid

Looks like this bank raid mess may be about to spread and broaden. Bertie Ahern is playing down the significance of the arrests at the moment, but Phil Flynn (a man who Sam Smyth claims is a director of Daily Ireland), a director of money lending company Chesterton Finance, has been desparately trying to talk to his two director collegues there, who are currently helping the Gardai with their inquiries. If Flynn is implicated in any serious way (there’s no indication that he is at the moment), there may be serious ramifications for government as well as Sinn Fein. It’s not what Daily Ireland need at the moment either. Thanks for heads up Richard!

  • Belfastwhite

    I would of thought that a nice juicy story like this is exactly what daily Ireland want at the moment!

  • Friendly Fire

    Bertie et al, are going for broke on obliterating SF as an electorial threat south of the border. North of the border…………… I think it will get complex (not that it isn’t so at the moment).

  • Jacko

    If, and we have to be very careful here, rumours about Daily Ireland are correct, it will kind of confirm what McDowell said from the start.
    Brilliant, eh.

  • Ringo

    Bertie et al, are going for broke on obliterating SF as an electorial threat south of the border.

    Wake up Friendly Fire. It is a lot less to do with an electoral threat than a security threat.

    Fine Gael, the Greens and the PD’s have absolutely nothing to fear from republicans of any sort electorally – they appeal to completely different voters, yet the most outspoken member of cabinet is a PD – Michael McDowell (and a former FG man), while Enda Kenny has been the most vocal of all the party leaders – calling for the CAB (criminal assets bureau) to move against the provo’s only this week. That now looks like a great call. As for the Greens they’re on board too for all it matters.

    Now if FG wanted to hobble Fianna Fáil to get back into power, wouldn’t Sinn Fein taking a chunk of Berties votes be a great assistance to Enda Kenny?

  • George

    Ringo,
    SF and the PDs may not be after the same voters but the PDs and FG are.

    McDowell’s hardcore stance against Sinn Fein has certainly endeared his party to voters who otherwise would have voted FG. That is his party’s gain.

    FG would have cleaned up on disillusioned FF voters if Bertie didn’t row back on his releasing the killers of Garda McCabe. That would have been his party’s gain.

    Ahern realised he would never get a decent result in the next election if people thought SF would be in power with him.

    There are electoral benifits to be gained by all in attacking SF.

  • Richard Delevan

    “Sam Smyth claims is a director of Daily Ireland”

    Jacko
    “if…rumours about Daily Ireland are correct”

    Daily Ireland’s Media Kit, p.6;
    Flynn’s interest also flagged in this Business Post piece.

  • Jacko

    Richard Delevan

    Yes, looks like we can drop the “if”.

    Thanks for that.

  • Ringo

    SF and the PDs may not be after the same voters but the PDs and FG are.

    A big generalisation considering FF have lurched to the right and appear to be converts to the PD’s economics. In terms of law and order – yes they are, and as I mentioned it isn’t any coincidence that McDowell is a former FG man. But if you limit your definition of their target voters as people who wouldn’t touch SF with a pole then fair enough, but that’s not enough to go on. 90% of the electorate won’t touch Sinn Fein. Probably a bit less even today.

    McDowell’s hardcore stance against Sinn Fein has certainly endeared his party to voters who otherwise would have voted FG. That is his party’s gain.

    Indeed. But with the PD’s restricted to urban area and FG practically wiped out in Dublin there isn’t that much of an overlap at present.

    FG would have cleaned up on disillusioned FF voters if Bertie didn’t row back on his releasing the killers of Garda McCabe. That would have been his party’s gain.

    If only this were true. Unfortunately these sort of issues tend to be lost to the ‘what’s in it for me’ in elections. Maybe in Limerick.

    Ahern realised he would never get a decent result in the next election if people thought SF would be in power with him.

    This goes against your argument.

    If you think what Bertie has to be worried about in the next election is losing Fianna Fáil voters who don’t think Sinn Fein can be trusted, what in the name of God would they be doing voting for Sinn Fein instead? As you say, they’ll end up in the PD’s or FG – the only party it with absolute certainty would have zero effect on is Sinn Fein.

    I think you have a point – but if as all the Sinn Feiners are saying – he’s trying to halt their gallop it is a pretty useless strategy isn’t it?When it affects the PD’s FG, FF and doesn’t leave a mark on the Shinners?

    Isn’t it a lot more plausible to suggest that the government and all the political parties except Sinn Fein might also be worried about the mixing of violent crime, paramilitaries, vigilate, racketeering, money laundering, counterfeiting, smuggling etc.. with the democratic process in the Republic, than the rise of a party that has grown a little quicker than the Green Party?

  • aquifer

    That could be it Ringo

    The intermittent voluntary efforts of members of democratic parties that abide by electoral funding rules may be no match for criminal networks with full-time runners, good street logistics, waves of untraceable criminal cash, and illicit muscle to deploy.

    Sinn Fein may have as many votes as it needs in the North, and salaries for MLA’s, so ROI would have been next?