Durkan goes on the offensive?

Daily Ireland today gives some of the best coverage of the SDLP’s weekend conference. Unfortunately not much has made it online, but it does cover Durkan’s keynote on the issue of law and order:

“The fact is Sinn Féin have benefited from the way this process has been managed. Over the past number of years, there has been a very exclusive process where the governments have concentrated on Sinn Féin on one hand and the leading unionist party on the other”.

Mr Durkan laid down the gauntlet to Sinn Féin ahead of the Westminister elections, when he will contest SDLP veteran John Hume’s Foyle seat.

“People are getting a bit sick of hearing Sinn Féin resort to keep quoting their mandate in relation to any question they are asked about IRA crime and ongoing activity. Sinn Féin are quoting those votes as though that somehow denies or dismisses or excuses those sorts of crimes.

“The nationalists who gave Sinn Féin the vote did so because they thought it was going to reinforce the process. They didn’t do so to justify or indulge criminality. It annoys many nationalists when they hear people like the DUP saying that the problem is that the nationalist community are prepared to vote to indulge paramilitarism and crime”.

  • Belfast Gonzo

    Full text of Durkan speech here.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Didn’t Minister Mc Dowell label this newspaper a Provo propaganda sheet? Yet here it is givng extensive and balanced coverage to the SDLP. Looks like another thing Mc Dowell has got wrong.

  • drumcree

    Pat, what are you inferring is the other thing Mc Dowell has got wrong?

  • Davros

    Asking a person in Northern Ireland which newspaper they read is tantamount to asking who they vote for, or worse what religion they are, as these divisions are replicated in the press.

    New Irish newspaper draws fire

  • Ziznivy

    A short article on the SDLP conference there may have been. Carping editorials about the iniquity of questioning SF’s criminality is a daily content. I’d venture to suggest Mr McDowell got it spot on.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    The market for carping editorials has already been cornered.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    there were four pages and an editorial in this morning’s Daily Ireland about the SDLP conference, far more than the minority nationalist party deserved.

  • Jimmy Sands

    In those four pages are you including the fact that an article was devoted to a pro-IRA demonstration outside attended by ten people?

  • aquifer

    Hardly the soundbite king. He needs to make big claims for SDLP history, successes, and principles. The danger in continually criticising SF actions rather than SF theology is that it suggests that SF are setting the agenda. Ridicule is good to banish fear and puncture pretence, so use it against pompous people who think private armies work.

  • DerryTerry

    aquifer,

    If you can think of anyone more pompous that the dithering Durkan then I’ll owe you a pint. Even at his best he is far from good and his ability to lose the audience after the first sentence or two is gaining legendary status.

    I have heard repeatedly, and am tended to believe, that he is frighteningly intelligent, he just is unable to communcate and his advisors seem to think he should be the smartest boy in the class, even when he ends up just looking smug.

    However, that said I agree that the SDLP need to start talking about themselves, because if they keep obsessing about SF then they are finished.

  • Christopher Stalford

    Durkan Speech:

    The Provo’s are terrible, awful, liars, scum, murderers, thugs, traitors to the Nationalist community bla bla bla bla………

    But we wont form an executive without them. What a joke!

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    Jimmy, mo mhíle stór,

    you must be talking about the short article that Zzz above mentioned. Perhaps you’d prefer no dissenting voices?

    Are you the same Jimmy Sands that’s standing for election for the UUP in some district council or other?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Durkan Speech:

    The Provo’s are terrible, awful, liars, scum, murderers, thugs, traitors to the Nationalist community bla bla bla bla………

    and Blair has the cheek to ask us to throw in our lot with terrible, awful, liars scum sectarian bigots with their own paramilitary arm.

    Frying pan or fire Mark?

  • Jimmy Sands

    OC,

    I am not and have never been a member of the UUP. It’s an amusing suggestion though. Ziz I understood to be talking about the editorial line, the piece I meant purported to be news. You misstate my views. I do not for one moment believe that there should be no dissenting voices. VB should have the right to say anything it wishes, notwithstanding that it is a right that its publishers have repeatedly sought to deny others. For my own part I reserve the same right.

  • Davros

    Has or will Daily Ireland run an editorial calling on witnesses to the attacks on Mr Devine and Mr McCartney to come forward ?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    ‘Has or will Daily Ireland run an editorial calling on witnesses to the attacks on Mr Devine and Mr McCartney to come forward ? ‘

    Davros, have you phoned them and asked?

  • Jimmy Sands

    Pat,

    I must say that I do find what apparently intelligent individuals are prepared to defend rather than go “off-message” to be profoundly depressing.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Jimmy, try and not talk yo yourself then.

  • Davros

    Care to attempt to answer the question Pat ? 😉

    Today Ireland mirrors the SF leadership. It’s dubious. 80% of the popular vote in 1918 ? Here was have a stabbing and a murder in their own community.

    Are either being seen to help or hinder the cause of Justice for the McCartney family ?

    Have an fhirinne issued any calls for justice in this case ?

  • spirit-level

    Pat McLarnon is one of those republican retards
    that brings shame on the Irish.
    To Unionists:
    Please don’t think that pin-heads like him and Dec represent mainstream nationalism.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Davros,

    I am unable to answer your question, how the hell do i know if the Daily Ireland will run an editorial on anything. Pick up a phone and ask them, then come back on and let us know what they say to you.

  • CavanMan

    Spirit-level
    Pat McLarnon is one of those republican retards
    that brings shame on the Irish.
    To Unionists:
    Please don’t think that pin-heads like him and Dec represent mainstream nationalism.

    i got yellow carded for much less,your comments are a disgrace.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    spirit-level,

    the more I get under the skin of you and your ilk the bigger the grin on my face.

    Since the Northern, unionist bloggers have had the run of the place and fair play to them. But now and then it is good to hear a differing point of view.

    Good luck and good night.

  • spirit-level

    CavanMan Pat McLarnon
    I am speaking as an Irishman abroad
    sorry for being blunt.

  • Davros

    Pat – if only you did occasionally offer your own thoughts. I think spirit-level is way out of line, you are entitled to stick to the approved party line. It would just be more interesting if you allowed yourself to become more than the equivalent of one of Mao’s red guards during the cultural revolution. But as I say, you are entitled to say what you want and you deserve credit for sticking your head above the parapet.

    Since the Northern, unionist bloggers have had the run of the place and fair play to them.

    and that is entirely down to the actions of SF and the IRA who have left their supporters in an impossible position.

  • CavanMan

    Spirit level
    I consider myself a republican and i dont aggree with some of Pats comments,you are right to voice your opposition.It was just the personal insults towards him that were uncalled for.

  • spirit-level

    CavanMan
    It won’t happen again
    I disapprove of personal attacks.
    Its just that I find it very hard
    to quell the rage and anger I feel
    towards what I see as IRA apologists
    particularly under the circumstances

    “This is the worst kind of oppression by the IRA of their own community. It is a frightening example of the Mafia culture that is tearing away at our communities and threatening decent people.”

    Its very hard to look straight in the mirror

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Davros,

    stick to the facts and the thread, put points and then answer others. The mob is in full flight and fair play to them. However, keep the smarmy back street psychology for those who have the time.

    good luck.

  • El Matador

    Interesting to see good coverage in the Daily Ireland- makes a change from the usual. Still notice their cartoons aren’t the best.

    Likely that their marketing department has told the editors about the SDLP resurgence- money talks, and the ANG would be foolish to continue down the road of stoop-bashing with SDLP support galvanising. Expect a strong showing for SDLP candidates in May.

  • J Kelly

    Elmat expect a good showing for SDLP candidates in May. I would caution you about building your confidence after spending the weekend among like minded people. Which SDLP candidates will up their vote from 2001 from the assembly elections from 2002. Attwood no chance, Durkan no chance,West Tyrone no chance I don’t any of the other candidates. This election will not be won in the City Hotel.

    Still confidently predicting 7 SF seats.

  • El Matador

    We shall see, J Kelly. We shall see…

  • J Kelly

    Elmat for the craic how many SDLP seats do you predict after may.

  • El Matador

    J Kelly, was it you I had the bet with for charity about how SDLP seats would pan out in May? I can’t find the thread

  • Dec

    spiritlevel

    I’d be interested to know which have my comments has caused you to view me as a pinhead?

  • J Kelly

    Oh did you take that bet up thats ok. Now predict the 7 seats and the person closest gets to nominate the charity.

    Sinn Fein to hold all four they currently have.
    Newry and Armagh no problem Sinn Fein
    Foyle Sinn Fein will be tight but Mitchel will do it. Durkan has very little profile in Derry and the council team is seen as a joke.
    South Down will be very close I would even go as far as to say that its to close to call but I believe it will go SF.

    Still confidently predicting 7 SF seats.

  • El Matador

    I’m assuming your bet for £10 (or was it twenty) to charity that SF will take the SDLP’s three seats still stands? I betted against it

  • J Kelly

    No problem that bet stands. But for the craic have a go at predicting the outcome of the seven or even eight seats if you count South Belfast that we have an interest in. On South Belfast it will probably stay unionist after the Carmel Hanna deselection fiasco. Has she been reselected yet or what.

  • northernbanker

    The electorate voted for sinn fein. Hugh orde did not acccuse sinn fein of any criminality. Does mark durkin think the voters are stupid. We all know the IRA have been involved in crime to some extent. That is how they have funded themselves. And yes they have on occasion gone too far.But we still vote sinn fein because we know they are at present our best option for advancing the peace process. If we are to look to a party who have no skeletons then we are screwed. I noticed in a paper today that an ex sdlp member had a lottery win. The same man is a convicted paediophile.Now how is that better than sinn fein?