Catholics in police double their numbers

Declan O’Loan gave a briefing yesterday on the impressive rise in the numbers of Catholics who’ve joined the police since the signing of the Belfast Agreement.

  • PONeill

    Good to see. The SDLP are obviously doing something right in regards to Policing.

  • maire

    It would be interesting to see a geographic and social breakdown of the figures ie. where are these Catholic recruits from? and what class status do they hold? That is a very interesting thought. But ofcourse Nuala would say there was a significant increase for sure there were not very many Catholics involved to begin with, so an extra 2-3 is definitely “impressive rise”.

  • maire

    Sorry my mistake….Declan O’ Loane but I am sure he has Nuala’s backing!!

  • vespasian

    I look forward to the day when it is 43.8% Catholic, it would already be much higher without the efforts of SF/IRA to intimidate potential new Catholic recruits.

  • Alan2

    I suppose that is a “sugar lump” to help the 50/50 medicine to go down.
    Still, the Chief Constables letter stating “there were too may applicants from your community background” still nips….

  • vespasian

    Maire

    Is there a heirarchy of Catholics in some circles?

    Is a middle class Catholic in Declan O’Loan’s home town (Ballymena) less worthy that a working class one in Crossmaglen?

    Or did you mean in ‘well off’ areas where people don’t feel intimidated by SF/IRA they are more likely to join?

  • maire

    vespasian

    The latter point you made. In working class areas there is no confidence in the PSNi but in areas of Belfast like the Malone Road there would be no hestation in calling the police or putting their confidence in them.

    And I do not belive there is intimidation in working class areas by Sinn Fein in preventing police recruitment drives. The police themselves are hindering the working by paying 10 pound touts for information on people in the area.

    It a car was broken into in the Colin area and the police were called it would take hours for them to come. Just look at the Kieran Milnes situation and that is enough proof for young Catholics to NOT get involved.

  • maire

    vespasian

    The latter point you made. In working class areas there is no confidence in the PSNi but in areas of Belfast like the Malone Road there would be no hestation in calling the police or putting their confidence in them.

    And I do not belive there is intimidation in working class areas by Sinn Fein in preventing police recruitment drives. The police themselves are hindering the working by paying 10 pound touts for information on people in the area.

    It a car was broken into in the Colin area and the police were called it would take hours for them to come. Just look at the Kieran Milnes situation and that is enough proof for young Catholics to NOT get involved.

  • maire

    vespasian

    The latter point you made. In working class areas there is no confidence in the PSNi but in areas of Belfast like the Malone Road there would be no hestation in calling the police or putting their confidence in them.

    And I do not belive there is intimidation in working class areas by Sinn Fein in preventing police recruitment drives. The police themselves are hindering the working by paying 10 pound touts for information on people in the area.

    It a car was broken into in the Colin area and the police were called it would take hours for them to come. Just look at the Kieran Milnes situation and that is enough proof for young Catholics to NOT get involved.

  • slug9987

    “It a car was broken into in the Colin area and the police were called it would take hours for them to come.”

    Pretty much the same UK wide, then.

  • maire

    vespasian

    The latter point you made. In working class areas there is no confidence in the PSNi but in areas of Belfast like the Malone Road there would be no hestation in calling the police or putting their confidence in them.

    And I do not belive there is intimidation in working class areas by Sinn Fein in preventing police recruitment drives. The police themselves are hindering the working by paying 10 pound touts for information on people in the area.

    It a car was broken into in the Colin area and the police were called it would take hours for them to come. Just look at the Kieran Milnes situation and that is enough proof for young Catholics to NOT get involved.

  • maire

    Sorry about the repitition friggin computer playing up.

  • J Kelly

    The counting of Catholics is a very dubious way of calculating how the PSNI are accepted in the nationalist community. How many of these catholics come from outside Ireland. How many vote for Sinn Fein and whether Declan OLoan, Alex Attwood, Bertie Ahern or Michael Mc Dowell like it or not Sinn Fein represeent the vast majority of nationalist/republican voters in the part of this island were the PSNI operate and on this issue have in my opinion called it spot on. We do not have a proper police service yet.

  • Alan2

    Tell me what the difference is between the PSNI and say the NYPD or the Gardai or the Met and why “we do not yet have a proper police force”.

    I would in actual fact say the PSNI is way more accoun table than any of the others.

  • Alan2

    Sinn Fein does not accept that the Dail is the government of Ireland or that the Irish Army are the legitimate defence forces of Ireland so why would they accept a “foreign” police force full of “Brits”?

  • willowfield

    J Kelly

    The counting of Catholics is a very dubious way of calculating how the PSNI are accepted in the nationalist community. How many of these catholics come from outside Ireland. How many vote for Sinn Fein

    Now we see the Provos and their apologists moving the goalposts. They used to complain that there weren’t enough Roman Catholics in the police. Now that the numbers are going up it appears that it is with the “wrong type” of Catholic.

    Do we need an additional quota for Celtic-top-wearing, wispy-moustached, earring-wearing Sinn Fein supporters? Should checks be done on candidates’ backgrounds to make sure they are sufficiently working-class? “Your father’s a teacer? Sorry you’re too middle-class: we can’t offer you a place”.