Interesting twist

An interesting twist to the Northern Bank robbery….

Apparently the Provos are selling £100,000 in stolen notes for £33,000 in genuine notes to criminal gangs including Loyalists.

  • Bean Nighe

    Would this interesting twist have anything to do with the Northern Banknotes being discovered in a certain Loyalist area, having been covered up to save red faces in high and mighty areas?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    I think this story is completely false and there is not an ounce of truth in it.

    The PSNI have been made to look extremely foolish because of their lack of evidence and patently bad intelligence.
    In the circumstances would these ‘meticulous’ and ‘forensically aware’ robbers risk capture or entrapment by dealing with people who are riddled from top to bottom with security service agents.

    This news item simply makes the News Letter look more idiotic than it already is.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    I think this story is completely false and there is not an ounce of truth in it.

    The PSNI have been made to look extremely foolish because of their lack of evidence and patently bad intelligence.
    In the circumstances would these ‘meticulous’ and ‘forensically aware’ robbers risk capture or entrapment by dealing with people who are riddled from top to bottom with security service agents.

    This news item simply makes the News Letter look more idiotic than it already is.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    It is quite clear that this story is a bit of a filler that doesn’t contain an ounce of truth.

    We are asked to make the mental leap that these ‘meticulous’ and ‘forensically aware’ robbers would risk possible capture or entrapment dealing with people who are infiltrated from top to bottom with security force agents.

    It makes the News Letter look more silly than it already has been for quite some time.

  • Davros

    3 posts pat ?

  • Fraggle

    my first thought on reading this story was that it sounds like excuses are being prepared for more people from loyalist areas being found with piles dodgy of NB £100s.

  • maca

    So that money found the other day in Craigavon, does anyone know for sure if it was a loyalist or nationalist area?

  • cg

    Fraggle

    I made a similar assertion today on a different thread “Sinn Fein and IRA to “divorce” over criminality” at 06:40 PM.

    It all seems too coincidental. Could it be the cops helped loyalists out on the robbery just like the old days?

  • Fraggle

    it’s a possibility cg. it’s a shame that so many people have closed their eyes to all the various possibilities.

  • maca

    I wouldn’t be convinced the cops had any involvement but the find in Craigavon and now this, it all just seems a bit suspicious.

    Would the provos be dealing with loyalists? Surely the loyalists wouldn’t touch the money if PIRA had done the job?
    Mind you, the whole story could be bull.

  • Davros

    Would the provos be dealing with loyalists? Surely the loyalists wouldn’t touch the money if PIRA had done the job?

    Republicans and loyalists have co-operated in the past Maca.

  • cg

    It seems that a lot of them want to believe it’s the IRA so much they just refuse to listen to common sense.

    If Orde had evidence you are damn sure he would produce it to try and screw republicans.

    It’s his unsubstantiated claims of it being the IRA that leads me to believe he is trying, at the very best, to cover up the incompetence of the psni…ergo, himself.

  • Davros

    cg- if he produced evidence would that not damage any court case in the future ? Would the defence team not claim that the release of evidence had made a fair trial impossible ?

  • cg

    Any trial Davros would be prejudiced already by him declaring it was the IRA.

    If however did this was found guilty of membership

    (Basically just the word of the cops…Hardly impartial or convincing)

    The trial would be a farce as they wouldn’t get a fair hearing. Due to the media and political attention the defense team could claim a fair trial is impossible.

    As he has already prejudiced the case and placed the peace process in jeopardy he should come forward with some form of proof, at least to Sinn Fein who accusations have been leveled at.

  • Davros

    cg – any trial would be of individuals, no individual has been named. However evidence is likely to name individuals. Is that not a big difference ?

  • Davros

    Has Orde mentioned Sinn Féin in connection with the robbery ? Would releasing evidence as you request to spare Sinn Féin from attack by their political opponents and the media not be unacceptable to Sinn Féin who say that Orde shouldn’t involve himself in politics ?

  • cg

    From what I hear in the media Davros and on slugger Sinn Fein have asked to be shown this evidence in private. That’s all I was suggesting.

    As for individual’s being tried, the point I tried to make was if a trumpeted up charge of membership was found by implication, all the media speculation coupled with Orde’s statement, they wouldn’t receive a fair hearing.

  • Davros

    They’ll still be squabbling long after we are pushing up Daisies 😉

    Tóg go bog é,
    Oíche mhaith.

  • Fraggle

    picture the scenario of a group of known IRA members, maybe ex-prisoners or something, standing trial. their trial would be prejudiced.

    bog? leaba?

  • cg

    Oiche mhaith

  • James

    I haven’t seen a feeding frenzy remotely like this since Monica pulled the blue dress out of the freezer bag. Excedrin headache number 942-A.

    Still, it would be the ultimate prod job if the Ra managed to unload all the new notes on the loyalists. Must be the toxins from all those tattoos……

  • Alan2

    “It is quite clear that this story is a bit of a filler that doesn’t contain an ounce of truth.”

    It was the front page story Pat.

  • spirit-level

    Only the very safe can talk about wrong and right

  • DerryTerry

    Talk about murkier and murkier. The IRA did the bank and are now engineering the distribution of their ill gotten gains through their friends in loyalism to discredit the PSNI and ensure that they will never be caught.

    Nevermind the fact that the Keystone PSNI have as much chance of catching themselves on as they do of catching whoever robbed this bank we are still left with the big question.

    Can we take on trust the intelligence we are not being shown? You would think given Tony Blair’s Iraq experience concerning WMD he at least might have been a bit slower to rush to judgement.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    Alan2,

    Clearly a filler in respect of the fact that the papers have no evidence on the robbery and have a licence to make up what they want. The fact that the NL chose to put their filler on the front pages is an indictment indeed.

  • davidbrew

    Any trial Davros would be prejudiced already by him declaring it was the IRA.

    If however did this was found guilty of membership

    (Basically just the word of the cops…Hardly impartial or convincing)

    The trial would be a farce as they wouldn’t get a fair hearing. Due to the media and political attention the defense team could claim a fair trial is impossible.

    I think you’re going to have to resit a few terms if that’s the best understanding you have of law- ask one of your lecturers if you really don’t understand

  • J Kelly

    The News Letter seem to be adopting the stance as Hugh Orde say and the will believe it because they all want to believe it. The question to be asked of the NL any evidence. Was the money being sold out of the back of a white van,

  • cg

    David

    “I think you’re going to have to resit a few terms if that’s the best understanding you have of law- ask one of your lecturers if you really don’t understand2

    Don’t say that I have enough worries as it is. Give me your view on this?

  • Dec

    “Any trial Davros would be prejudiced already by him declaring it was the IRA.”

    What about the Tohill case when the Judge said at a preliminary hearing that this ‘was clearly an IRA operation’?

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    The Newsletter is only fit for reporting on Sham Fights in Scarva….

    And a new layout this week won’t save it from the rubbish tip. Sad to see two hundred years of tradition go but unless it’s saved from itself it will go.

    It’s problem now seems to be a politically motivated publisher and an editor on loan from the PSNI.

  • Gay

    OC,

    Maybe this is a Greg Harkin red top contribution? He’s in charge of ‘new projects’.

  • Davros

    Give me your view on this?

    Astonishing. A Lawyer Larva asked a Lawyer to “Give”
    something ????

  • cg

    Davros

    “Astonishing. A Lawyer Larva asked a Lawyer to “Give”
    something ????”

    Ha Ha, LOL

    I merely wished to see if David could walk the walk as well as talking the talk.

    “Lawyer Larva”

    Where did that come from? 😉

  • Davros

    I merely wished to see if David could walk the walk as well as talking the talk.

    I tried that once, there’s a 4 letter F word, Fees!

    “Lawyer Larva”

    Where did that come from? 😉
    I was boozing with Law students and lived with a Law lecturer before you were born ;)Had to do a year long course on Parasitology LOL

  • cg

    “I tried that once, there’s a 4 letter F word, Fees!”

    When I am qualified mine will be free! at least to shinner’s and working class people.

    I will suck those middle and upper classes dry ;)….( I mean finically)

  • Davros

    When I am qualified mine will be free!

    Shhhhhhhh… examiners are everywhere!

  • cg

    “Shhhhhhhh… examiners are everywhere!”

    Who cares?

    All they are is an old boy’s club that needs ended.

    Some of the “secret soundings” they do for taking silk is disgraceful

  • cg

    “I mean finically”

    Should read, “I mean financially”

  • Davros

    If God spares me, in 2040 I’ll chuckle when you are made Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland 😉

  • cg

    “If God spares me, in 2040 I’ll chuckle when you are made Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland ;)”

    Now you are being insulting 😉

    I would never take silk as long as the north is part of Britan but…

    2040 Chief Justice of All Ireland Supreme Court