Bac ar mhaoiniú Lá curtha ó mhaith

deireadh leis an bhac ar airgeadú oifig Lá i nGaeltacht Dhún na nGall. Dar leis an t-eagarthóir Lá, Ciarán Ó Pronntaigh: “Is cinnte gur imir an tacaíocht thréan ó go leor daoine – idir léitheoirí, ár mbraithre atá ag treabhadh i ngoirt na dteangacha mionlaigh i dtíortha eile agus eile – tionchar chun ár leasa ar an scéal seo – is mór againn bhur dtacaíocht”.

Press Release from Lá

The Department of Finance in the North has lifted a six-month freeze on European funding for the daily Irish language newspaper Lá. The decision secures five jobs at the Donegal office and enables Lá to return to five-day-a-week publication.

Lá, the only daily newspaper in a Celtic language, opened its Gaeltacht office in June of last year but funding was delayed in August after UUP MP Sylvia Hermon raised qustions in the British Parliament about funding for the Andersonstown News Group.

At the time, she said: “It is absolutely outrageous that public money has been used to fund an avowedly republican newspaper group. This is totally unacceptable. For a start I am sure it is incompatible with European law which outlaws the state funding of newspapers.”

“This decision, which was approved by Finance Minister Ian Pearson, is great news for the Irish language community,” said Lá Managing Director Máirtín Ó Muilleoir. “Our thanks goes to the Irish language activists around the world who campaigned to have this freeze lifted. This is a first-class cross-border initiative bringing together hard-pressed communities in West Belfast and the Donegal Gaeltacht. This decision means we can now concentrate on producing a top quality daily newspaper”.

Additional note: Shares in the Lá newspaper are shared evenly between the Andersonstown News Group and 100 of the country’s top Irish language activists and organisations. The paper is legally constituted on a not-for-profit basis and is a sister paper of the Andersonstown News.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    Ní fheadar an mbeidh ráiteas ar bith ón Bhantiarna Hermon anois nó ón Tiarna Laird ag cur in iul go bhfuil siad sasta, tar éis an iniuchadh go léir atá déanta agus gach tastáil a bheith dearfach, gach rath a ghuí ar Lá. B’fheidir fiú go gceannóidís síntiús don nuachtán ceannrodaíoch seo!

  • Asal_muice

    ba cheart ‘sintiús onórach’ a thabhairt don Tiarna Laird agus an sean-chrán Hermon!!!!

  • idunnomeself

    “For a start I am sure it is incompatible with European law which outlaws the state funding of newspapers.”

    Did she say that about Lá or about ATN and/or the Daily Ireland?

    I asked for proof about this before, and none was offered. It seems to me that Lá (a cultural institution I have the utmost respect for) is continuing to be disingenuous about why they they were in dire financial straits.

    Also seeing as the British Minister has given them hundreds of thousands of pounds of other people’s tax money..

    Shouldn’t this press release say thank you somewhere??

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    For a start I am sure it is incompatible with European law which outlaws the state funding of newspapers.”
    Obviously Lady Sylvia doesn’t know much about the support given to minority language newspapers in Europe by their respective governments. There’s not one which doesni’t receive either direct subvention or support through huge subsciptions (for distribution of the paper among students) or state advertising.

    But now she truly has egg on her face after her questioning of support for Lá has been found to be without foundation by a Direct Rule minister who, despite his best efforts, could find no reason to further delay funding for Lá.

    In yesterday’s edition of Lá, interestingly, there’s a full page report on how DCAL ignored a consultant’s report which they commissioned which recommended ‘full support’ for Lá. The consultant recommended this as the best option from a number of options which they had assessed and most in keeping with the stated aims and strategies of DCAL and the Governemnt generally vis a vis cultural diversity, equality and promoting the Irish language in public life (cf Good Friday Agreement).
    According to the report in Lá, the support the consultant deemed reasonable in a report he submitted in July 2003 was in the region of £200,000 per annum and, also, an additional £50,000 for the first year for start up costs was in order. The support Lá actually gets from DCAL via Foras na Gaeilge falls far short of that.
    It’s a question worth putting to DCAL whether it is a normal procedure to completely ignore reports/business appraisals they commission from independent consultants. It’s not a case that they don’t have the money – after all in 2003, the year this report was delivered to DCAL, the Department sent back £4m to the British Exchequer because they failed to spend it.

  • Davros

    In yesterday’s edition of Lá,

    Isn’t that like quoting from the Protestant Telegraph of years gone by to support another article in the Protestant Telegraph ?

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    Davros, dear Davros.
    The point is that the article in Lá refers to a business appraisal, just come to light, which was commissioned by DCAL from an independent consultant and then, perhaps because it delivered a positive assessment of the Lá project to go daily and a recommendation of full support, the business appraisal was shelved and kept under wraps. Its recommendations were not acted upon, needless to say.
    I don’t know what the equivalence is with the Protestant Telegraph – did that publish articles revealing details of government reports which were meant to be kept from the subjects of those reports?
    I hope this clarifies the issue and it will allow you to ask searching questions of those who should be answering them – ie DCAL and Foras na Gaeilge?

  • maca

    OC, I see where Davros is coming from there. No point quoting from Lá in a story about Lá. Might be better to quote from another source if possible.

    However that shouldn’t take away from the issue of the independent consultant and ignored recommendations. Any chance their report is online?

  • idunnomeself

    ‘It’s a question worth putting to DCAL whether it is a normal procedure to completely ignore reports/business appraisals they commission from independent consultants’

    Ministers make decisions, not consultancy firms.

    A consultancy report may be used to inform a decision, or the decision may be delegated. But there is absolutely no need for(nor would we want) our Ministers to slavishly follow the recommendations of a consultancy report.

    The Minister might decide that the report didn’t take everything into account, or that it didn’t properly assess such things, or that the decision was to be made on a different basis, or that the context of the decision had changed.

    In practice anyone who has any experience of such reports would understand why Ministers wouldn’t treat them as gospel.

    Anyway I thought that the decision about funding for Lá was made by Foras, not DCAL? In which case this is even more of a red herring.

    Davros,

    I agree, Lá is conducting a one newspaper campaign for more money. They are playing to a small, and not very discerning, gallery.

    Have they ever thanked anyone for the hundreds of thousands of pounds they receive? or do they just mope?

  • idunnomeself

    oh, and I’d rather they sent my tax payers money back to be used on something more useful than spent ‘for the sake of spending it’ on a project which didn’t offer proper value for money

  • Fraggle

    “oh, and I’d rather they sent my tax payers money back to be used on something more useful than spent ‘for the sake of spending it’ on a project which didn’t offer proper value for money”

    idunnomeself, I’d rather my tax money wasn’t spent on the huge annual subvention which maintains the union between NI and Britain.

  • maca

    IDM
    “oh, and I’d rather they sent my tax payers money back”

    Fair enough, though I doubt you’d get a whole lot back. I’ll reimburse you personally if you feel that strong about it.

    “to be used on something more useful than spent
    ‘for the sake of spending it’on a project which didn’t offer proper value for money”

    I think that’s a bit unfair.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    it is very unusual for a minister to ignore the advice of a consultancy firm hired to make an independent evaluation. One would have to ask if the advice was not to support the Lá application whether the same level of reticence about making the report available (a year and a half later).

    IDM – I don’t care what you think of Lá – it’s obvious you have some axe to grind about it but I think that any department in NI which sends money back to England for it to be spent on missiles or the like is reckless and not serving its true master – the population of NI – rather than Whitehall mandarins.

  • idunnomeself

    Maca, it was a general point, not just related to Lá. Money is handed back if it can’t be spent properly. It is then available the next year to be spent on something. The money is not burnt, which some people seem to think!

    OC, it isn’t that unusual, although it is often considered better to amend the report earlier in a draft stage.

    I have seen some such reports and they were of too poor a quality without heavy amendment, which included changing the recommendation.

    I imagine in this case something simliar happened, no big deal.. hardly worth the scandalous billing Lá has given it.. (The tone maybe explaining why few Irish speakers outside Belfast buy Lá?)

    If one thing strikes me about this issue it’s that Lá just seems to be a bit naive about how Government works

  • Davros

    My thoughts – if people are serious about wanting to attract unionists to the Irish Language then the last person/group to be involved with an Irish paper should be Máirtín Ó Muilleoir and the Andersontown News Group.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    My my what an insight into the working (or non working) of government. Commission a report and only if it delivers the result you require do you act upon it. And sure who cares – isn’t the tax payer footing the bill!

    And you still haven’t answerd the question – if the report is negative I bet you the government would have acted upon it.

    You also – as you haven’t seen the report in question – are in no position to say whether it is poor or not. So unless you care to admit that you are actually a DCAL employee who is defending his department’s corner, perhaps you should shut up on that score unless you want to draw the respected authors of this, to what is by the account in L á, as good a report as any other.

    If money not spent here is sent back to the UK exchequer and is spent on missiles (or otherwise facilitates the spending on arms etc) it might as well be burnt.

    As for Lá being naive about the workings of government, I don’t think so. Lá has spent years carving out a niche for itself and building up to the point where it is a truly professional product. When it started off it was a labour of love and bore all the hallmarks of amatuerism – now it’s as good a daily newspaper as is available in a minority language and is the only such newspaper in a Celtic language.

    Foras na Gaeilge’s mother department in the north is DCALNI and, according to the Lá report, it was given a copy of the business appraisal long before Lá received it. It’s a matter of interest why they didn’t act upon it – rather than long fingering Lá’s application until June.

  • idunnomeself

    ‘And you still haven’t answerd the question – if the report is negative I bet you the government would have acted upon it.’

    how can I answer that? it isn’t a question.

    I can give an opinion.. but that would be pointless. All that you’ve shown is that you’re a bit paranoid.

    I absolutely don’t agree that a Minister is bound to a consultants report they have comissioned.. what’s the point of having politicians then? Why not just let PWC run the country?

    I have seen some, they were obviously of bad quality and had to be changed. Normally this was because of laziness/ sloppy work, but on other occasions it might be becasue the consultant (for whatever reason) seemed to take one group/ persons side and forget their objectivity.

    Incidentally did Lá give DCAL a chance to reply to this? Or just publish a one sided story with no counterpoint? How professional is that exactly?

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    What’s the difference between a consultant and a politician who’s no mandate in the six counties, having been sent over here by his political masters to do his/her purgatory before entering the promised land of ‘mainland’ mainstream politics?
    In my opinion the consultant is closer to the ground than the fly by night ‘Direct Misrule’ ministers.

    I think Lá are perfectly justified in running a story revealing the details of this report and following it up in due course with a response from DCAL – that is if they can defend the indefensible and not adapt the usual tactic of failing to respond.

    You have no idea about the quality of otherwise of this particular report, much less about its objectivity. Your snide generalisations are just a pathetic attempt to smear. this appraisal. On this score, put up or shut up. I wouldn’t like Slugger to be exposed to a libel action on account of your weasel words.

  • maca

    Relax a little lads. This is all in the past anyway.

    Davros
    “if people are serious about wanting to attract unionists to the Irish Language then the last person/group to be involved with an Irish paper should be Máirtín Ó Muilleoir and the Andersontown News Group”

    True. Not likely to change though.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    There is one thing for sure – that if Mairtín Ó M Muilleoir and the Andersonstown News Group weren’t involved and actively supporting Lá, there would be no daily Irish language newspaper today or any day. I doubt very much whether the Fitzpatricks at the Irish News, the Irish Times Trust or the Crosbies at the Examiner not to mention the virulently anti anything Irish O’Reilly Dodo group would support such a project, whatever its politics. Foinse’s owner, Padraig Ó Céidigh, has to my knowledge not invested one red cent of his own money in the weekly newspaper, relying 100% on state handouts to maintain it but there is nothing that suggests that any current newspaper proprietor – apart from Ó Muilleoir and the Andersonstown News – which would back with its own funds such a project – public service newspaper publishing is one term for it., in my opinion.

    There’s also a very nasty implication in some of the comments which suggest that Irish would be very popular – if only it were spoken by different (better?) people.

    Irish is a language which can be spoken by anybody. I presume in all innocence and naivety that freedom of speech extends to the freedom to choose in which language you speak. But then again “Northern Ireland” is hardly a democracy in which such rights would be guaranteed is it? After all the right of a person/group to be presumed innocent until proven guilty is only kept in the breach rather than the observance.

  • Davros

    There’s also a very nasty implication in some of the comments which suggest that Irish would be very popular – if only it were spoken by different (better?) people.

    There’s a recognition that Irish was regarded as a weapon to use against a section of Ireland’s population OC, and there’s a suspicion that despite soothing noises to the contrary from within some sections of the RM, not a lot has changed.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    There’s a recognition that Irish was regarded as a weapon to use against a section of Ireland’s population OC, and there’s a suspicion that despite soothing noises to the contrary from within some sections of the RM, not a lot has changed.

    I think what you mean, Davros, is YOU believe Irish was used as a weapon against a section of Ireland’s population and YOU suspect that nothing has changed. This is like the “Some People Say” formula on Fox – a way of ascribing to a ‘general concensus’ your own prejudices.

    If anything is true, it’s the reverse. Peoples’ use of Irish as their daily vernacular has been seized upon by hostile commentators, some backward unionists and others who claim, falsely, that Irish is a dead language and shouldn’t be supported – ie marginalising a substantial community on this island entirely.

  • Davros

    I think what you mean, Davros, is YOU believe Irish was used as a weapon against a section of Ireland’s population

    I didn’t write this OC :

    A prominent member of Sinn Féin, who is also an Irish language activist, has been quoted as saying ‘Every word of Irish spoken is like another bullet being fired in the struggle for Irish freedom.’.

    From CAIN, page 6.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    this is often bandied about as proof of something when, if it were ever said at all, probably occurred when there was a full blown conflict. if it were said, you should find out who said, when they said it and what was happening at the time to put it in its proper context. Otherwise it proves nothing – on the other hand the Ulster Scots movement are unashamed in the way they have associated the Orange – No Catholics Here – ‘culture’ with their own to create their own their own story/myth. That’s more believable as a piece of cultural war mongering than your petty contribution, the veracity of which I doubt.

  • idunnomeself

    ‘What’s the difference between a consultant and a politician who’s no mandate in the six counties’

    They answer in parliament to MPs, many of whom are from Northern Ireland. If your MP doesn’t go to Parliament, and therefore can’t ask PQs- that’s the choice of those that voted for him to disenfranchise themselves in that way.

    Consultants, on the other hand, often just say whatever they are paid to say..

    Previously I’ve enjoyed debating with OC as (s)he brings an interesting and informed perspective to these sorts of debates, but on this thread (s)he’s threatened to sue, and is now berating Davros for not giving proof- despite the fact that his post links to the University of Ulster??

  • Davros

    this is often bandied about as proof of something when, if it were ever said at all,

    LOL 🙂 Oliver ‘Ostrich’ Cromwell’s head disappears into the sand 🙂

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    They answer in parliament to MPs – many of whom are from NI

    Only 14 MPs sit in Parliament directly elected by the people here 14/630+ wouldn’t be what I’d call many. They , the Direct Misrule Ministers, come from godforsaken holes in England and have no interest here one way of the other.

    Consultants, on the other hand, often just say whatever they are paid to say..

    Hmm interesting claim that – after all the business appraisal referred to in Lá was commissioned and paid for by DCALNI – so how come they didn’t get what they paid for – ie a negative verdict so they could happily not support the project.

    I haven’t threatened to sue but I have suggested that IDM’s irresponsible rantings about consultants with its undercurrent of criticism apparently aimed at the firm which carried out the DCALNI appraisal of Lá was verging on libel. Another misrepresentation from IDM.

    And finally,IDM, your comment on Davros’ ‘contribution’ and my response is just so far up the left. The link is to Cain but there is no attribution of the comment to a named SF activist – for all anyone knows it’s just an urban unionist myth.

    Davros, if you can’t answer the question you should try and desist from resorting to abuse and petty name calling…

  • maca

    Oilbhéar
    “There is one thing for sure – that if Mairtín Ó M Muilleoir and the Andersonstown News Group weren’t involved and actively supporting Lá, there would be no daily Irish language newspaper today or any day”

    I agree with you here. You certainly wouldn’t want to rely on anyone in the South to do this, it wouldn’t happen.
    BUT tying this to the earlier comment about their involvement, plus your comment about Irish being “a language which can be spoken by anybody” and Davros’s about Irish being used as a weapon i’d just like to say that it’s not only Unionists who have this perception. I also have this perception and I know many in the South who feel the same way. Phrases like “tiocfaidh ár lá” have been thrown about for the past 30 odd years as part of the republican campaign with the obvious result of driving protestants away from the language.
    You’ll find few English speakers (i.e. non-fluent Irish speakers) more passionate about Irish than me but one thing that has been really driving me crazy over the past year or two (especially since I came to Slugger) is the use of Irish as part of the “struggle”.

    If Irish IS a language for anybody it needs to be completely free of any ties to nationalism. IMHO.
    This includes it’s links to SF and nationalist papers. As I said to Davros I don’t expect Lá position to change but shouldn’t it if we’d like Lá to be read by prods too?

  • Davros

    OC, you didn’t ask me a question 🙂 LOL

    this is often bandied about as proof of something when, if it were ever said at all, probably occurred when there was a full blown conflict. if it were said, you should find out who said, when they said it and what was happening at the time to put it in its proper context. Otherwise it proves nothing – on the other hand the Ulster Scots movement are unashamed in the way they have associated the Orange – No Catholics Here – ‘culture’ with their own to create their own their own story/myth. That’s more believable as a piece of cultural war mongering than your petty contribution, the veracity of which I doubt.

    Where is the question in the above ?

  • Davros

    Maca, OC is being dishonest with his denials.
    It was the attitude of people like him that drove Hyde from the Gaelic League.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    I think you’ll find that Lá is first and foremost an Irish language newspaper and its poltics are mainly to do with the language. In so far as the British government (and the Irish government) have mistreated the Irish language over the years or ignored it or wished it weren’t there, then the newspaper, from what I’ve seen of it, has opposed their policies.

    You really have to deal with people as they are rather than as you’d like them to be. If they speak irish, they’re not necessarily mad dog republicans – but if they are that’s their business. I’m an Irish speaker first and my politics are secondary other than when there is a direct relation in the terms that I’ve described above.

    A long time ago a prominent egg head visited the IRA blocks in Long Kesh and told them the best thing they could do for Irish is to stop speaking it. This comes across to me as the worst type of cultural arrogance. One of the other accusations levelled against Irish speakers over the years is one of elitism – that really sickens me because, as far as I’m concerned, the more people speak the language the better. Unionism and southern anti-nationalism needs to get its head around that the Irish language is not dead and gone but alive and kicking. There’s no bar on anyone using it but until then I have no intention of not using it or of diluting my politics or asking anybody else to do likewise.

  • Davros

    A long time ago a prominent egg head visited the IRA blocks in Long Kesh and told them the best thing they could do for Irish is to stop speaking it. This comes across to me as the worst type of cultural arrogance.

    I don’t understand the point you are making here OC.

  • maca

    Oilbhéar
    “I think you’ll find that Lá is first and foremost an Irish language newspaper”

    I agree. But the problem seems to be the fact that it is tied to the ANG.

    “If they speak irish, they’re not necessarily mad dog republicans – but if they are that’s their business.”

    Certainly true. But the way Irish has been used in the past means getting around this that bit more difficult, at least for protestants, AFAIK.

    “One of the other accusations levelled against Irish speakers over the years is one of elitism”

    I have to say I have experienced this at first hand and it sickened me. You’re right when say the more people who speak it the better but there is unfortunatly a small percentage of native speakers with a superior attitude who can be a real turn off. This is something the Irish language community needs to deal with IMHO.

    “Unionism and southern anti-nationalism needs to get its head around that the Irish language is not dead and gone but alive and kicking.”

    Just down to educating the ignorant.

    “There’s no bar on anyone using it”

    There I disagree. I think it’s ties with politics is a bar. But of course my perceptions are going to be very different than your own OC.

  • Davros

    Incidentally OC, have you seen the CnaG advert about registering children for pre-school and primary school? It’s on p24 of the Irish News today and presumably in Lá.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    But the problem is that it is tied to the ANG

    It seems that Lá is caught between a rock and a hard place – between being tied to the Andersonstown News and burdened with the baggage many people carry in respect to that newspaper and not being tied and not having the support to be able to publish a daily paper.

    Here’s the deal: let some other newspaper proprietor, not associated with any poltical party, come forward and take Lá on board, fund it to the same generous extent that the ANG has and then we can talk.

    The problem is that the Irish Times is linked to the PDs, the Irish Examiner is linked to Fine Gael, the Indo group is linked to the British security services and establismhent, the Irish News is linked to the SDLP and the AOH, the Newsletter is linked to the DUP and the Orange Order and the Telegraph is linked to the Indo….

    So who’s left?

  • Davros

    OC- I would like to see an online bi-lingual version fully funded by the two governments as a news and cultural facility for all the people of Ireland.
    How would that grab you ?

  • Alan2

    “idunnomeself, I’d rather my tax money wasn’t spent on the huge annual subvention which maintains the union between NI and Britain.”

    Assuming you live in NI I assume you would therefore be willing to pay more taxes to make up the deficit if the subvention were to be withdrawn?

  • maca

    OC
    “It seems that Lá is caught between a rock and a hard place”

    It is, I totally agree. There is no obvious solution, bar something like what Davros is saying. I’d certainly like Lá to continue, and better to continue like it is now that not continue at all. It’s just that *ideally* we should have a paper not seen to be tied to any particular group and able to reach out to all communities. Maybe i’m asking for the impossible.

    Davros, there’s Beo. I’ve no idea who funds it though or if it has any political ‘leanings’. And of course it’s Irish only (being just for Irish speakers) though there is a good glossary for learners.

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    Why re-invent the wheel? Lá is there, it’s online, it has many thousands of online readers as well as 4,404 ABC sales per day. Beo, a monthly online magazine, is also available and Foinse, though its online version is not updated on a reliable regular basis, is also worth looking at.

  • idunnomeself

    It has always struck me that the problem Lá has is not that it’s links put off potential Protestant readers, but that they put off a lot of potential Irish speakers, especially in the ROI market, which is 10 times the size of the market in Northern Ireland.

    The language and tone of the Irish speakers in West Belfast turns these potential readers off.

    For example the recent articles about Laird and funding will have read like paranoid conspiracy theories to Southerners.

    If Lá want to sell more copies (and therefore secure their future, something everyone on this thread wishes to see happen) they need to shift their emphasis from Belfast to Ireland and their language from West Belfast Irish (steeped in Republicanism) to that used elsewhere. That’s a business decision, pure and simple, like the ATN has done with the South Belfast News..

  • Davros

    Why re-invent the wheel? Lá is there, it’s online, it has many thousands of online readers as well as 4,404 ABC sales per day. Beo, a monthly online magazine, is also available and Foinse, though its online version is not updated on a reliable regular basis, is also worth looking at.

    You missed the important part :

    bi-lingual version fully funded by the two governments as a news and cultural facility for all the people of Ireland.

    I Know Lá is online. However I cannot understand it. IF there was something bi-lingual then everybody would be reading the same paper. So it would be inclusive. It would also be easier for novices at the language and would facilitate learning the language.

  • Davros

    And can you expalin what you meant by the “cultural arrogance” comment ? I’m interested, not nit-picking.

  • maca

    A Oilbhéar, do ye generally write in Ulster-Irish or a mix?
    I’ve noticed today (thx to Dav) that An tEolas use Ulster-Irish. It’s lovely Irish but difficult for those of us used to An Caighdéan [the standard].

  • Oilbhéar Chromaill

    If I can offer some constructive criticism of An tEolas, one benefit at least of the Irish News campaign against the Daily Ireland, it ‘s this – it should get a decent proof reader as the standard of the grammar and spelling – especially the headlines – is very poor.

    If that’s Ulster Irish, it’s not a good advertisement. I welcome An tEolas and I assume these are teething problems – but it cannot be gainsayed that this is not a problem area.

    Lá as far as I can read uses a mix in that there are Ulster writers in the main but Kerry, Cork and other areas are also represented. The Ulster Irish project, as far as I’m concerned, is misbegotten. No harm to it but what we need is less difficulty in Irish rather than attempts to promote difference – ie difficulty – between dialects.

    I’m all for getting rid of the ‘seimhiu’ too!

    Cultural arrogance in the context I used it refers to the notion that some people have and promote that only people with a certain social standing (definitely not ex POWs) should use Irish lest it bring ‘shame’ down on the language. Irish is open to everybody as far as I’m concerned,. the more the merrier.

  • maca

    “I’m all for getting rid of the ‘seimhiu’ too!”

    Jaysus man, we couldn’t be doing that!

  • Davros

    Thanks OC, I understand .

  • Davros

    Publishers seek advice over McDowell comments

    14 January 2005 19:50

    The Belfast based publishers of a new daily newspaper to be launched next month say they are seeking legal advice over comments made by the Justice Minister.

    The publishers described Michael McDowell’s comments about the newspaper as ‘scurrilous and dangerous’.

    The minister, in a statement published on the Justice Department’s website, said the new paper, Daily Ireland, had the backing of the Provisional IRA, and compared it to a Nazi propaganda sheet.

    Mairtin O’Muilleoir, the Managing Director of Daily Ireland, who also sits on a Government sponsored Irish Language body, said he was seeking a meeting with the minister in regard to the remarks.

    Mr O’Muilleoir said the newspaper would be pro-united Ireland, anti-violence and pro-peace process. The publication is backed by a number of business people including the former GAA President, Peter Quinn.

    The minister’s statement has also been condemned by the National Union of Journalists. The NUJ’s Irish Organiser, Seamus Dooley, said Mr McDowell’s remarks could endanger the lives of journalists and staff on the paper.

    Last month in a letter, the Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, sent his best wishes to the publishers of the new paper.