Accusations continue over the bank heist

Speculation is the name of the game. Despite the obvious frustrations it throws up, not know exactly what’s going on at anyone moment does provide some entertaining moments. This morning’s triptych (sound file) from Bill Lowry, Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley junior was one such.

Martin McGuinness pointed out that whatever it is that Hugh Orde does say this afternoon, without actionable evidence it can only be an accusation. He then proceded to make some of his own, suggesting that these particular accusations were politically motived by certain security elements in the government.

When asked about the consequences for the peace process, he simply suggested from a Republican perspective, there would be fury at “an attempt to marginalise the largest party on the nationalist side”. He refused to be drawn by questions as to what republican paramilitaries may or may not know about the heist operation that in part took place in committed republican territory.

Ian Paisley Junior’s was typically direct. However it was extraordinary to he hear him suggest on national radio to the devolution of policing powers locally to a Sinn Fein minister that “you cannot have a member of the Army Council of the biggest criminal gang on these islands having a say in how policing operates in Northern Ireland. These are master criminals, not politicians. The hand of Republicanism was in the crime of the century.” This kind of thing used only to be uttered under cover of parliamentary previlege.

The only thing that all speakers were agreed on was their criticism of the police and their inablity to track down a gang rumoured of 20 people in a relatively small town.

  • Davros

    Couple of things :

    1)How is Bill Lowry “associated with” the DUP ?

    2) The interviewer seriously misquotes Lowry, who early in the interview says the police were NOT fishing, when talking to baby doc.

  • Mick Fealty

    Davros, I’ll happily be corrected on a) and yes, you are correct on b).

  • peteb

    While we’re on ‘speculation’, this RTE report points out the basis on which Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness found their belief of non-involvement by the IRA – “an anonymous republican source denied any IRA link” – and, to be pedantic here, they’re just saying that they believe the ‘source’, they themselves are not actually denying the involvement of the IRA.

    And while Junior is labelling this, prematurely, as the crime of the century (only 95 more years to go to test that one!), it’s interesting that Martin McGuinness is demanding ‘evidence’.. hmmm.. would ‘photographs’ suffice I wonder?

  • Henry94


    Have they got photographs? Did the Traffic Warden have a camera?

  • Davros

    The ‘evidence’ is especially funny from Martin… Does he really expect Orde to say that Joe Soap of 1916 Chucky Towers, Falls Road , has told them that ….

    Does Martin not remember that he claimed that HE had a duty to respect the confidentiality of certain people when he was giving ‘evidence’ to Saville ?

  • peteb

    Probably not, Henry, the organisation responsible didn’t want to be ‘humiliated’ 😉

  • Belfast Gonzo

    The Chief Constable is on the radio blaming the IRA right now…

  • Pat Mc Larnon


    Lowry associated himself with the DUP during his speech in Kells, it was typical DUP venom.

    Whether the interviewer is misquoting him or not Lowry is lying when he said the PSNI aren’t fishing. It is quite obvious from their hapless efforts to date that they are.

  • Mick Fealty

    I’ve removed my original comment pending further investigation of the facts. I may be in receipt of a yellow card shortly! 😉

  • peteb

    I seem to recall Bill Lowry commenting that he had been invited to speak on policing at the DUP meeting and that if SF invited him to speak on policing he would be more than happy to do so as well.. but if the ‘association’ mentioned is due to that appearance, does that mean that several SF representatives are ‘associated’ with the British Labour Party (and their associated securocrats).. they, and many others, have spoken at Labour Party conferences 😉

  • Davros

    Precisely Pete.

  • Pat Mc Larnon


    So in all honesty, Lowry is going to be invited to a SF Ard Fheis to spout the bile he poured forth to the DUP. Yeah, does he bring his own rope.

  • Bean Nighe

    The DUP are not prepared to take the word of a General, why then are they prepared to take the unproven word of a politically motivated Chief Constable without a photograph as proof, after seeing is believing!

  • Davros

    Why should we take the word of a party that cannot even decide how to spell it’s own MLA’s names ?

    Sinn Féin Spokesperson on Equality, Human Rights and Women, South Down MLA Catríona Ruane

    Sinn Féin MLA for South Down Caitríona

    Maybe the staff at the newsroom need another 2 weeks holidays ? 😉