Edinburgh Airport

The Scotsman reports that Dr Paisley has lashed out at the way passengers flying from Edinburgh to Northern Ireland are segregated and made to wait in the cramped conditions of Gate 14 because of security arrangements that date back to the 1980’s. “Heathrow and other major airports have abandoned their special arrangements for flights to Northern Ireland.

Of 20 airports in the UK with flights to Belfast, only five segregate Northern Irish passengers: Newcastle, East Midlands, Blackpool, Stansted and Edinburgh. At least one of those, East Midlands, is planning to change its arrangements soon.” Paisley’s outrage is turned on airport .

  • GavBelfast

    His outrage on this point is not misplaced. Edinburgh’s attitude is a disgrace.

    I wasn’t aware that Stansted picked particularly on Belfast passengers – those headed for Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle and perhaps other destinations seem to be herded together with Belfast-bound passengers, but I thought this was more a low-cost airline thing rather than a security one.

  • aquifer

    If people in Britain thought airport controls would keep Paisley out for good, they would be more likely to vote to keep them. He is not the best person to resolve this issue, as British people dislike his style of politics.

    Easyjet has done more for the Union than he has.

  • WindsorRocker

    Funny you should mention Easyjet aquifer.

    Luton (main Easyjet airport) still treat Belfast bound passengers differently from other domestic users. They are made to queue up standing in line and wait for ages before being called to board. The scene is no better than a cattle market!

  • aquifer

    A bit like waiting for accountable government then.

  • DaithiO

    Wasn’t it so sad that the reverend doctor was inconvenienced and has kindly spoken out to highlight the plight of ALL travellers to Belfast.

    Perhaps he would be kind enough to also champion this cause…

    On returning from Belfast after the “glorious” 12th celebrations this year (2004) myself and 3 friends (who were there to “observe” the march past Short Strand) were stopped by, shall we say … officials, who asked us the reason for our visit, where we stayed, etc. etc. and to fill out a form for the Prevention of Terrorism Act whilst the football shirted thuggery were allowed to pass unhindered ??

  • The Devil

    Are any of you actually aware it is common practice that if there are three or four flights leaving from a european destination returning to the UK and one of the flights has to be delayed or pulled, it is the Belfast flight that is automatically selected.

  • John East Belfast

    Considering that Dr Paisley considers that the IRA are still a dangerous and constant threat to the security of this nation then why is he surprised that GB airports are remaining on high alert for travellers to and from NI ?

    Or is it just another case of him catching up on the tangible and real benefits brought about by the Belfast Agreement in recent years – which in unionist terms was of course achieved not only without him but despite him.

    The real interest of this report is not Paisley’s criticism of Edinburgh Airport but that he is making the point at all.

  • Fraggle

    quite right john. he can’t have it both ways.

  • The Devil

    So John the not so wise man from the east and Fraggle the no so wise person from anywhere both prefer to be treated as second class citizens.

    Someone raises an issue which effects us all and with the correct approach could have benifits for all of us if changed, but they would rather ignore the issue because the person who raised it was not someone they wish to adhere to.

    I hope the pair of you enjoy exellent eyesight for the rest of your pathetic little lives as you will surely never be able to wear glasses as you would rather cut off your noses to spite your faces.

    Oh and you can forget about contact lenses as I am quite sure that niether of you want contact with anything.

  • John East Belfast

    The Devil

    “but they would rather ignore the issue because the person who raised it was not someone they wish to adhere to.”

    must be the current Season bothering you but this is total crap.

    If you can’t work out what Fraggle and I were hinting at then it is you that cannot see beyond the end of his nose.

  • Mario

    I think John makes a good point; I think Paisley needs to realize that he contributes to the discrimination against travelers from Northern Ireland. After all, if one of the UK’s top politicians keeps pointing out to the existente of IRA terrorists than the UK would be foolish not to secure its main airport in Scotland with daily flights to Belfast. I think The Devil’s insults to John and Fraggle were uncalled for.

  • Davros

    I think Paisley needs to realize that he contributes to the discrimination against travelers from Northern Ireland.

    That article is about the treatmemt of travellers TO Northern Ireland, not FROM Northern Ireland.

  • John East Belfast

    Davros

    whatever

    either way security at GB airports for travellers to and from NI would remain heightened if things remained as bad here as the picture Paisley tries to paint.

    If they are not as bad – hence justifying relaxed airport security (which of course I support) then has Paisley any suggestions as to how such a status has arisen during the last 6 or 7 years ?

  • Davros

    It’s a big whatever JEB. Massive in fact.

    Seems pointless to treat those flying to NI like dirt when those flying from NI, surely of more interest to GB security, step off the plane and wander at leisure in to collect their baggage.

  • John East Belfast

    Davros

    The way we are treated at GB airports is a throwback to the bad old days and we just accepted it as part and partial of where we came from.

    However the bad old days (as we knew it in the 70s, 80s and early 90s are largely behind us) – as a result how we are treated at GB airports has changed. Some airports are still playing catch up and those still to catch up should rightly be reminded of the new environment.

    Remember what he said was

    “I don’t understand why they still carry on doing that when other airports haven’t done it for years. I’ve never experienced it at any other airport I’ve flown from within the UK in recent years.”

    What I am raising is the fact that Paisley is acknowledging this fact despite sowing fear back home. Secondly if he is recognising it then how does he think it has arisen ?

  • Davros

    The way we are treated at GB airports is a throwback to the bad old days

    We, natives and residents of N.I, are treated no differently at Edinburgh Airport than any other passenger on the same flight to Northern Ireland.

  • aquifer

    I think that doctor Paisley should expand on his wish for equal treatment for all UK citizens at gates. Does this include pearly gates?

  • GavBelfast

    You know, folks, sometimes lots of whataboutery and too-clever-by-half remarks do the people who make them no favours at all.

    Surely, on this point, Paisley has a good point, and there is little need to muddy the issue with snide and frankly irrelevant ripostes?

  • James

    “Surely, on this point, Paisley has a good point, and there is little need to muddy the issue with snide and frankly irrelevant ripostes? “

    Damned straight, Gav.

    Time for another lively discussion on what to call Derry.

  • Weapons Of Crass Instruction

    “Seems pointless to treat those flying to NI like dirt when those flying from NI, surely of more interest to GB security, step off the plane and wander at leisure in to collect their baggage”

    Certainly not my experience when flying from Belfast to Bristol last year Davros. Two suited ‘gentlemen’ stopped me coming off the flight and asked me to collect my luggage before then preceding to ask me questions on where I was going to, why I was going there, who would I be with and “what do you think of what’s happening in Ireland” for over an hour. I never realised how menacingly friendly those Avon – Somerset guys could be.

  • Davros

    I’ve never had that problem WOCI. Have you what Seamus Heaney described as a “Catholic face “? 😉

  • willowfield

    I regularly used to be pulled at security – both in airports and ferry ports – when travelling from Scotland to NI during the late 80s and early 90s. I found it most annoying and always felt it was because I was a young male travelling alone. I was content to put up with it, though, as a necessary security measure during the Troubles.

    Haven’t experienced any hassle in recent years although I do find it annoying that Belfast passengers are shunted into crappy lounges. I think at Manchester airport they take your photograph if you’re flying to Belfast, but not to other destinations.