On the Move

The Sunday Business Post carries a story that Fianna Fáil will organise in the Two Northern Universities.Will this damage Sinn Féin ? Fianna Fail to recruit in Northern universities

  • cg

    Should be fun in queen’s next year.

  • Davros

    Will you welcome their arrival cg ?

  • Fraggle

    i fully approve. this provides an all-island political option for those who are uncomfortable with SFs lingering links to crime and phoney pseudosocialism. time for the SDLP to roll over.

  • cg

    Absolutely
    Anything that advances the all Ireland agenda is to be welcomed. When the SDLP are destroyed at the next election there will be a small section of “nationalism” who will never vote Sinn Fein.
    As for their prospects at queen’s, they haven’t got a chance.
    The SDLP is a joke at queen’s and so too will Finna Fail

  • Davros

    As FF are seen by many as being to the right, is there any chance that they will draw some support from disaffected Unionists and other members of the unionist community ?

  • cg

    “As FF are seen by many as being to the right, is there any chance that they will draw some support from disaffected Unionists and other members of the unionist community ?”

    Davros
    Can’t see it myself.
    Finna Fail’s preference for a United Ireland will probably bar that.
    Fine Gael however is probably where unionism will reside in the long run.

  • Fraggle

    FF will be a joke? let’s wait and see. maybe I’ll join myself, since I occasionally masquerade as a queen’s student.

  • Davros

    cg: I vote SDLP as I cannot bring myself to vote for a Unionist party of any stripe. If I was a QUB student I wouldn’t worry about FF (nominal?) support for a United Ireland because f the safety-net referendum in the GFA but would support them on their pro-European stance.

  • cg

    “I wouldn’t worry about FF (nominal?) support for a United Ireland”
    You have just given the reason that will lead to their demise in the long run.

    I’m not really pro-Europe for the simple reason that Ireland has been ruled for almost 900 years by a foreign power and a change of management is not the answer. Finna Fail would never be a choice for me but the all Ireland aspect is good.

  • Davros

    You have just given the reason that will lead to their demise in the long run.

    I’m not convinced cg. The focus is so strongly on Brussels these days- I read that 70% of Dáil legislation is driven by Brussels – that in the long-term the question of local sovereignty will take a back seat. But then , as a fervent supporter of Europe I would say that, wouldn’t I ? 😉

  • Fraggle

    cg, SF’s euroscepticism is another reason I wouldn’t support them.

    look at the difference a couple of decades of eec/eu/whatever membership has made for ireland.

    without europe, ireland would be back to it’s old subordinate position with relation to britain.

  • cg

    Fraggle
    I’m not Pro-Europe in today’s terms (United Europe)
    I am not however a Euro skeptic. I accept that Europe has been good to Ireland. I wish to see a Europe where we cooperate in areas that is beneficial to all parties. I wish to see Europe do more for those socially disadvantaged in our societies. I hope for a Europe that treats all members as Equals.

  • Henry94

    Fraggle

    Outside england euroscepticism is not the same as being anti-EU. I’m all for EU membership but I think we can be as sceptical and critical of policies in Brussels as we can be about those in Dublin or London.

    But membership of the EU is a given for Sinn Fein and of course the SDLP. I’d say the UUP would stay in too. I would say the only party opposed to the concept is the DUP.

  • cg

    “without europe, ireland would be back to it’s old subordinate position with relation to britain.”

    Fraggle
    It is in that old subordinate position with relation to Britain.
    (6 counties still under British occupation)

  • PS

    Glad to see this and I look forward to engaging with FF within QUB.

  • willowfield

    Why would anyone want to join FF?

    What do they stand for?

  • Henry94

    willowfield

    They are a very pragmatic party which you can take as meaning they don’t stand for anything. They are largely responsible for the condition the south is in both good and bad.

    In the north they would simply be a 32 county alternative to Sinn Fein. There is a gap in the market but I suspect not much of a market in the gap.

  • willowfield

    I guess the only reason for joining would be if you wanted to pursue a political career?

  • Henry94

    Or have some land rezoned.